That's false. Plenty of advocates for school choice want her. For example, National Review ran an article in favor of her in the past few days (should still be on the front page of their website). It's not just one article either, I've heard their writers support her in their podcast called The Editors. Ben Shapiro also spoke positively about her. Both NRO and Ben Shapiro have been and are still critical of Trump.
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Senate Democrats debating all night in hopes of stopping Betsy DeVos
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That's false. Plenty of advocates for school choice want her. For example, National Review ran an article in favor of her in the past few days (should still be on the front page of their website). It's not just one article either, I've heard their writers support her in their podcast called The Editors. Ben Shapiro also spoke positively about her. Both NRO and Ben Shapiro have been and are still critical of Trump.
Of course they want her, she fulfills their wet dream of destroying public education. The thought of their children having to compete with the lower class disgusts them.
That they have framed arguing against taxes for public schooling as "school choice" even as their kids already attend private schools is incredibly transparent.
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The 2 repubs voting "No" is just for show. She embodies every hope and dream for Republicans with regards to education. End the Teachers Union, stop teaching evolution, stop teaching sex ed, use the voucher scam to keep black kids out of white schools.
Stop thinking this is Trump. All of these things Trump is doing are things nearly all of the Republican party want. Graham and McCain couldnt get elected today if they werent incumbents already. Likewise I dont see very many republicans elected these days that anyone would have voted for in the 80's and 90's.
Stop thinking this is Trump. All of these things Trump is doing are things nearly all of the Republican party want. Graham and McCain couldnt get elected today if they werent incumbents already. Likewise I dont see very many republicans elected these days that anyone would have voted for in the 80's and 90's.
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That's a dangerous game to play because the Democrats at some point will be the majority.
BrutishMrFish
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They've been playing it for 8 years already, they probably aren't going to stop now.
Lord Frieza
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The two GOP senators voting against is plainly orchestrated so a few could voice their opposition, while still confirming DeVos. There's zero chance she won't be confirmed.
Which is not to say Dems shouldn't fight it tooth and nail. I'm just not getting my hopes up for any outcome other than confirmation. (And the subsequent damage to the public education system.)
Which is not to say Dems shouldn't fight it tooth and nail. I'm just not getting my hopes up for any outcome other than confirmation. (And the subsequent damage to the public education system.)
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I'm just happy to see Democrats actually FIGHTING. Throwing everything they can at obstructing Trump, even if they don't win every battle. This is what their constituents are demanding.
neither of them are actually against her confirmation, which is clear from the fact that they supported her in committee and well, the obvious:
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/susan-collins-betsy-devos-confirmation-234497
don't buy into their dog and pony show
So basically they are appeasing their constituents by voting no, otherwise they would vote yes. These people...
Luckily we only have to last 2 years before midterms happen and we can work towards mitigating some of the damage. Gonna be a tough fight with GOP Gerrymandering and most of the Senate seats being blue.
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lol it's pretty fun to fantasize what would happen if Pence voted no. It would probably lead to his administration crumbling (further)
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Theyre essentially playing their constituents as fools. I hope this spreads and they get canned in the next election.
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Yes, he will come to the rescue for her.
It's no use; Democracy is dead in America.
....am I missing something? Did she want more money?
They have no choice. The Dems would need a 3rd defection from the GOP to stop DeVos, they're powerless when it comes to stopping these appointments.
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My state doesn't speak for all Trump voters, but Tom Cotton made a Facebook post a few weeks ago saying he was looking forward to voting yes on her, and there was not a single positive comment. Not even by long-time Republican voters.
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I called senators McCain and Flake. I'm pretty much going to try and call them every day for the rest of their time in office if she gets through with their help. Two of the worst senators this state has ever had.
But those same people who do not like DeVos will still come out in November and vote Republican so it's not like it matters.
That's because she's blatantly incompetent. That said the GOP will confirm her because their base doesn't care all that much about the issue.
Exactly. They don't like her and feel she's incompetent and unqualified, but they don't care enough about the issue to actually punish the GOP. They care more about other issues.
Alaska is very reliant on public schools and can't adequately network enough profitable private schools.
For the 100th time in this thread alone, she already voted yes for DeVos in committee where her vote actually mattered. She is voting 'no' now because it is meaningless
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I am having trouble digesting that we've built a system where the elected officials should be beholden to their constituents, and those constituents tell them in droves that they don't want X or Y, and the official is just like "....nah." I mean, I guess this is the expected result when people just vote for a party regardless of what it means?
Sadly, it's 2020 when the majority of these assholes will be vulnerable.
But don't worry, us in Colorado will remember and will be bringing up DeVos.
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It's seems likely they were "blessed" no votes once they got the numbers they need.
Edit: covered fifty times already
Whoops. I was thinking of Toomey and he just won reelection. Gives his opponents plenty of time though, ahem.
This is like saying voting against Trump for president is a no brainer.
People have forgotten about Bush Jr in the past election. Do you really think they'll remember one cabinet post four years later?
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Couldn't they just filibuster her confirmation vote and be done with it?
no, democrats got rid of the filibuster for non-scotus confirmations a few years ago because the gop wouldn't confirm anyone for obama
You're really naive if you don't think their flipping isnt politically motivated.
Forgive me that I didn't see the 99 other times that this was mentioned.
Her family has donated millions upon millions to Republicans.
When she wants to use the schools to advance "God's Kingdom", I'm skeptical of how long that attitude of tollerence will stay in place.
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Sigh. Thanks for the response!
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Order pizzas online for delivery to the senators offices, with messages attached expressing your disapproval of her nomination.
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People unfamiliar with how politics works are misunderstanding the situation.
It isn't the case that there are two Republican defectors.
Rather, the Republican Caucus understands that this is a contentious vote that might hit legislators hard come election time. Because the Caucus has two more people than it needs to pass DeVos, the Caucus strategically selected two Republicans to vote no so that they can be spared the backlash come election time. It is extremely unlikely that a third Republican will vote "no" - this is all planned, and this is very normal.
It isn't the case that there are two Republican defectors.
Rather, the Republican Caucus understands that this is a contentious vote that might hit legislators hard come election time. Because the Caucus has two more people than it needs to pass DeVos, the Caucus strategically selected two Republicans to vote no so that they can be spared the backlash come election time. It is extremely unlikely that a third Republican will vote "no" - this is all planned, and this is very normal.
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