Shoot the Core! - Gaf Shoot ‘em Up (aka Shooter/SHMUP) Reference Thread

senko no ronde despite appearances isnt really a shooter. i have played quite a bit of the nesica x live version of duo and think of it more as a top down version of virtual-on with a more prominet lock-on than anything else.

never played the touhou ps4 version / clone as i didnt hear much positive about it from reviews and community, although mainstream site always give luke warm opinions on this stuff at best.

Understood...most likely why I have never really played mine. But I lump them in because of the G.rev link. And enjoy collecting them all for some eventual play.
 
yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa downloadin'

Curious to see how they'll handle the refresh rate differences. Cave themselves just sped up their Guwange port. I never got to try their DDP 360 port but I assume it's the same way.

I suspect that M2 will include something like the blur effect stuff in Raiden Fighters Aces, or maybe they have some secret sauce going on.
 
Dangun seems as feature-packed as Garegga, but it looks like it repeats frames to maintain the original timing. Maybe there are some options related to this buried in here, idk.
 
Really late to the party in getting a JP PSN account but just created one for dangun feveron. Can anyone give me a quick overview of any other good shmups on the japanese psn?

I was a huge fan of ikaruga then went through a phase where I was all about dodonpachi and kenta cho's stuff for a while but I've been out of the genre for years and am excited to get back into it for dangun.
 
Really late to the party in getting a JP PSN account but just created one for dangun feveron. Can anyone give me a quick overview of any other good shmups on the japanese psn?

I was a huge fan of ikaruga then went through a phase where I was all about dodonpachi and kenta cho's stuff for a while but I've been out of the genre for years and am excited to get back into it for dangun.
I don't think there is much else exclusive to Japanese PSN at the moment other than Battle Garegga and the Arcade Archives stuff.
 
Got tired of waiting for news on Battle Garegga, so screw it...

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I'm tempted to import the Battle Garegga Premium Box.
Apparently the price has tanked pretty heavily (3100 yen?)

Do it. Even the code it comes with is discounted!

But, seriously, it is just a fun box in its own right for shooter fans.

What about Darius? Did that ever come to PSN outside of Japan? Talking original, not CS.

Not yet. But it was announced and ACA still releases titles in NA. Guessing it will just pop up one day.
 
Technically that's not the last boss :p

Missing 'true' with intent. I admit I juggled several ways to specify. Stage 5 Boss also feels kind of wrong?

False Last Boss?

edit: actually, this is a weirdly specific topic I find super interesting, so indulge me if you will. Open question to anyone: Do you consider a TLB to be a second boss to the final stage, or a separate thing on its own?
 
Missing 'true' with intent. I admit I juggled several ways to specify. Stage 5 Boss also feels kind of wrong?

False Last Boss?

edit: actually, this is a weirdly specific topic I find super interesting, so indulge me if you will. Open question to anyone: Do you consider a TLB to be a second boss to the final stage, or a separate thing on its own?
It is weird. I honestly don't think Ill unlock the tlb in my life time, but I would think stage 5 boss would be the way to go about it. I honestly don't know tho.

False last boss kinda reminds me of the false king :D
 
False last boss kinda reminds me of the false king :D

Precisely where I was pulling from. I know item descriptions in loading screens are all the rage in that series, but god did I love the portrait/name thing in demons. Carried so much weight. Anyway, sorry to digress, I just never see it mentioned.
 
I'm tempted to import the Battle Garegga Premium Box.
Apparently the price has tanked pretty heavily (3100 yen?)
Where are you seeing those prices? Amazon has it via Prime for $63, & I saw someplace else had it for about $54 (before tax + shipping). Really tempted if it's only around $30 for the game + all that extra stuff.
 
WTF

M2 how could you? -_-

This is the unfortunate reality of emulating a game like this. The game logic is deeply tied to the output refresh rate, and the original hardware refresh rate was 57hz. Amping that rate up to 60hz causes the game to run notably faster, so I see why they went this route.

Having said that, I would appreciate options, even if they invalidate leaderboard use. Especially in an option-dense release like this.

can i get a video of this? did raiden fighters do the same? might have to dig out my 360 games to see how noticeable it is.

I don't know if I have a good way to capture this, sadly. Maybe I could record something with my phone later, lol. Raiden Fighters Aces, iirc, used a screen blurring technique by default to mask the repeated frames.
 
As is customary, I always set up a special display for the new shooter releases. And a nice long three-day weekend. Brand new game for me. This port is immaculate...and gives me the old-skool vibes from DonPachi. Cool title!!

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can i get a video of this? did raiden fighters do the same? might have to dig out my 360 games to see how noticeable it is.
raiden fighters has a multitude of options to handle it, from interpolation to repeated frames (stutter) and I think an option to speed it up to 60
 
I wonder if that means a new arrange outside of x mode. Got to say.. slightly disappointed since I have the 360 and ps3 versions
 
I wonder if that means a new arrange outside of x mode. Got to say.. slightly disappointed since I have the 360 and ps3 veraions

Same here as those are generally excellent. Especially the PS3 Limited version. Was hoping to alternate to a new developer since they have chosen very interesting titles so far. Even something like Kingdom Grand Prix or Layer Section.

That said, super happy the series is continuing! That Dangun School thing, on the other hand...
 
Same here as those are generally excellent. Especially the PS3 Limited version. Was hoping to alternate to a new developer since they have chosen very interesting titles so far. Even something like Kingdom Grand Prix or Layer Section.

That said, super happy the series is continuing! That Dangun School thing, on the other hand...

Yeeeeah... I didn't think that one was particularly worth mentioning.
 
can i get a video of this? did raiden fighters do the same? might have to dig out my 360 games to see how noticeable it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MEKk0VXzl0 Might be hard to recognize, but here's a 60fps capture from my PS4 Pro. During the lateral ship movement you can see a periodic stutter.

Sadly the only way to get 60fps video off of the PS4 is to broadcast, and it doesn't save local video in 60fps. I would have uploaded max quality elsewhere if I could have.
 
Damn it. I'd like to support M2 and shooting games, but (I never thought I'd be saying this) I'm tired of buying Ketsui ports. 360+PS3+NDS. Do we really need another one? If M2 want to show us some Cave love why not do that with a Ibara + Kuro compilation? Or some more Eighting love with Armed Police Batrider? Or something by Psikyo, like oh I don't know Strikers 1999?
 
Same here as those are generally excellent. Especially the PS3 Limited version. Was hoping to alternate to a new developer since they have chosen very interesting titles so far. Even something like Kingdom Grand Prix or Layer Section.

That said, super happy the series is continuing! That Dangun School thing, on the other hand...
I'd be a huge advocate of kingdom grandprix, but that's niche of the niche which might not do so well. There's even someone on the shmup forums who took it seriously and possibly just got the world record since there is minor competition. It'd be highly interesting watching the online leaderboards.

A bit biased on my end since it's my absolute favorite, but progear has a strange popularity even outside of the scene and might do surprisingly well. Then of course other raizing titles..

But yeah, I'll probably still end up buying it since ketsui is solid and I want to support M2
 
New update from Xydonia, it seems so good. Selection screen improved and a lot of fixes.
Let's wait for a new alpha/beta, hope soon.

Also, for the GAF users that helped the game KS, an announcement:
If your pledge tier is COMMANDING OFFICER, then this is for you!

We began working on backer collab assist characters, so we'll reach you via PM once it's your turn. Start cooking up those ideas if you haven't already!

Xydonia on Kickstarter

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The water section seems promising:
The "Underwater Stage" (working unoriginal title) will put our pilots against a huge sea snake that doesn't really dig the idea of sharing the ocean's bed with them.

This stage will dynamically switch between air and underwater action, rocking an epic BGM composed by FM master Keishi Yonao himself!

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I'm surprised at how much I'm enjoying Fever Mode.
It's way to easy, that's for sure but I'm having a blast with it.
Gonna have to try and clear it with one life I think. :)
 
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