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Shoplifting.

Hey GAF, had an interesting shoplifting experience at the retail chain I work at yesterday.

I'm a Meat Department Manager at a local big name grocery chain. Yesterday I had an encounter with two women at our seafood service counter that I'd like to share with you. Now, this encounter is just one of dozens upon dozens that I've had over my ten year career at this store, but it's the most recent one I've had so I'll share it today.

Alright, so I'm waiting both the service meat and service seafood counter, slightly backed up, about four sets of customers lined up for orders. These two women at the seafood counter keep interrupting me as I'm waiting those who came before them. That was already strike 1 in my mind with them, but I continued to smile and be patient and polite with them.

I finally clear everyone else and begin to serve these two.

The first of the women asks for $60 worth of our frozen lobster tails. This puts me on high alert, as our top three shoplifted seafood items are snow crab legs, frozen shrimp and lobster tails, although normally the customers who shoplift generally avoid directly interacting with employees.

I became alerted because that was a large amount to purchase, and these ladies looked less well off financially, though that's usually an unfair assumption and I don't profile people based on their physical appearance and clothing unless they are dressed suspiciously in relation to the outside weather. Backpacks catch my attention, as well as large jackets, huge bags being carried or in their carts, etc. Sunglasses and hats being worn together is also usually a good indicator, and the older of the two was wearing just that. Sunglasses and a hat.

I began to pack the lobster tails into a large zipper bag, and the younger woman of the two interrupts me again, telling me that she wants them packed in something smaller than the bag that I'm trying to use. This is strike two, as there's absolutely no reason to have asked this unless she has intention to conceal the items, in my mind. If she'd asked me to pack them into freezer paper in smaller packs so that she could use them in portions, that would have been far different.

I finish her pack of lobster tails and her tag team partner wants the exact same order, same way. Fair enough. I finish the order as they try to tell me they are down on their luck today. Interesting that they're purchasing $120 worth of seafood, but that's their business. They walk off without grabbing any sorts of seasonings, nothing else in their cart for side dishes, nothing at all. They head to the bathroom hallway with their cart. That's strike 3. I watch them from upstairs as they work their way behind the point of sale, behind all registers with a straight shot at the exit doors. Their lobsters are magically bagged in our store's plastic bags, though they've yet to check out. I confront them at the bottom of the stairs demanding a receipt. They tell me they don't have to show me one and that they aren't finished shopping. Then the younger one starts acting offended and asks if I'm the same person who had waited on them earlier. I motion for the ASM to come handle the situation and begin to walk away. My blood is boiling. The older woman with the hat and sunglasses has already exited the store at this point, and the younger begins to plead that it was all going to be done by the other, how she has kids and would never risk losing them to shoplift. I simply exclaimed with "Jesus Christ, seriously?!" as I walked away.

They weren't arrested, they'll surely be back again. One of my co-workers noted afterwards how she'd waited on this woman earlier in the week for six lobster tails. I lose hundreds of dollars worth of meat and seafood every week to shoplifters. Sometimes thousands. I'm scared to even imagine how much alcohol is stolen, as well as pharmaceuticals.

Do you have any shoplifting stories, retail GAF? Have you ever caught a shoplifter? Did you confront them? Have you ever tried to restrain one? Do you shoplift? How do you justify it if so?
 

SpaceWolf

Banned
Do you shoplift? How do you justify it if so?

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I had a family buy pop every week, drink 3/4ths, fill it with water and return it for being "flat". This was a weekly occurrence for years with them.
 

Bulk_Rate

Member
My wife works at a major cosmetics stand alone store and her shoplifting stories amaze me. People come in with small kids, strollers, duffel bags, etc. and just load up. They know they will not be physically stopped so they treat it like a game.
 

Kyne

Member
Without going into too much detail, when I worked in retail I caught a girl (must have been mid 20s) trying to steal panties.

I called her out on it and she did not give a single fuck about getting caught (almost as if she wanted to) and then proceeded to take her shorts+panties off and chuck them at me.
she missed.

Target and white girls. I swear man.
 

Jakoo

Member
Do you have any shoplifting stories, retail GAF? Have you ever caught a shoplifter? Did you confront them? Have you ever tried to restrain one? Do you shoplift? How do you justify it if so?

I worked in a grocery store next to a retirement community, and had a lot of older shoppers we treated as regulars since they often just liked coming to the store as an outing to talk to people. They were all generally friendly, grandparent types.

One day though I walked down an aisle and I saw one of these sugary sweet older ladies slipping some boxed goods into her oversized jacket. Before I even got the chance to say anything, in an almost in a horror-movie-esque tone shift she snarled at me: "WELL, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?".

Nothing, apparently. I was getting paid minimum wage and she was lifting a box of stuffing worth like a dollar. Didn't even want to mess with it.
 
The worst is people who use kids to steal. Absolutely pathetic. I saw a lady steal a bunch of stuff at a clothing store by putting something on her kid to trip the alarm. She walked out and left her confused his there alone to be interrogated by store employees.
 

soultron

Banned
I had a family buy pop every week, drink 3/4ths, fill it with water and return it for being "flat". This was a weekly occurrence for years with them.
It's impossible for pop to be flat at point of sale if it's held in a sealed and pressurized vessel. Can you ban people for trying stuff like this?
 
I worked in a Kmart years ago as an on call kinda person for extra money. One day I got called in, come to find out a couple of kids had tried to just walk out with a cart of clothes and some tools. When they were confronted, they actually used a hammer to assault the poor woman and made a run for it with the cart just to run into the malls resident 'I will eat you for fun' 300 pound security guard. Needless to say, things went poorly for them after that.
 
Without going into too much detail, when I worked in retail I caught a girl (must have been mid 20s) trying to steal panties.

I called her out on it and she did not give a single fuck about getting caught (almost as if she wanted to) and then proceeded to take her shorts+panties off and chuck them at me.
she missed.

Target and white girls. I swear man.

Didn't you hear? That's where all the hot women go!
 

Tobor

Member
You really shouldn't stop them though. Let the police handle it.

There was an infamous incident at a shoe store in my town where the salesman confronted the shoplifters. They grabbed him, put him up against the wall outside and murdered him.

I worked nearby and saw the blood on the wall hours later.

Again, do not confront them. Let the police take care of it.
 
Don't you have to wait until they leave the store before you accuse them of shoplifting? That's what they told me in a GameStop interview forever ago.
 
I worked in a Kmart years ago as an on call kinda person for extra money. One day I got called in, come to find out a couple of kids had tried to just walk out with a cart of clothes and some tools. When they were confronted, they actually used a hammer to assault the poor woman and made a run for it with the cart just to run into the malls resident 'I will eat you for fun' 300 pound security guard. Needless to say, things went poorly for them after that.

Shit like this is why I have a damn near anxiety attack confronting shoplifters. So afraid they'll have a fight or flight moment where they'll assault me over $100 with of product that I would never trade my life for.
 
Is it any part of your job responsibility to confront potential shoplifters? If yes, you were doing your job, good call being cautious. If not, you should've handed it off to loss prevention or whoever is responsible.

Also, since it's a big name grocery chain, why are you so concerned about their shrinkage from theft? Does your bonus/salary/etc vary based on those losses?

I've always worked in B2b companies, so this has never been an issue personally.

I did steal a BB handgun from Walmart when I was like 12. I felt so guilty about it, that I un-shoplifted it a couple weeks later. My theft career was effectively over.
 

____

Member
I used to work at Hollywood Video, and some guy came in around 5 mins from closing.

While my coworker and I were behind the counter as he perused the store, we started to get suspicious. But you never want to accuse anyone prematurely, so we just kept our eye on him as he went from aisle to aisle just "looking".

He eventually leaves the rental area and goes to where we have a table of "for sale" movies, and just pretty much browses movie after movie after movie. A few mins later, he slowly makes his way to the door behind other aisles, and then dashes out the door and jumps in his truck. In his hand? A garbage bag full of movies lmfao. I guess he snuck the empty bag in inside his pants or something.

My coworker chased him (he took personal offense to the theft), but we didn't catch him. I thought it was funny, but also sucked that we had to call the store manager around midnight to let her know what went down. No real way to prevent stuff like that, I guess.
 

Nowise10

Member
Worked at a grocery store last summer with the grocery department and had to sit in the security a room with a 10 year old kid who got caught stealing 9 volt batteries. Was a pretty entertaining experience, I wish I got to be a witness more over the summer but never did. The kids mom was shopping their too while he did it. I expected her to be more upset but it seemed like she really didn't care to much.

Also I chatted with the security guy afterwards and he tells me he usually gets like 1 person a day, and I had no idea it was that often. Also told me shrimp and other seafoods are the most stolen items as well.
 
Don't you have to wait until they leave the store before you accuse them of shoplifting? That's what they told me in a GameStop interview forever ago.

I asked for a receipt on their bagged items that they never checked out after they passed the point of sale.

Technically these ladies could have shoved the lobsters up their asses and I'm not allowed to confront them until they pass the point of sale.
 
I've noticed Target has recently added more plain-clothes secret shoppers. They make it pretty obvious as to what they're doing.

That's fine, secret shoppers don't need to blend in perfectly. Just their presence alone will often deter shop lifters from steal regardless of if the thief realizes their an undercover employee or just a nosy shopper. The goal for asset protection isn't to arrest people, it's to keep product in the store. The best shop lifters have a spotter and the moment they realize someone is undercover ap they'll often signal to bail. Having helped ap I've seen this happen several times.
 

Goodlife

Member
I was in a supermarket once, couple of blokes were doing a runner with a few bottles of vodka. Checkout lady asked me to run after them. Nope.

Always remember the Gaffer who saw a young mother steal some nappies once and he walked away. Stuck with me, for some reason.
 
Is it any part of your job responsibility to confront potential shoplifters? If yes, you were doing your job, good call being cautious. If not, you should've handed it off to loss prevention or whoever is responsible.

Also, since it's a big name grocery chain, why are you so concerned about their shrinkage from theft? Does your bonus/salary/etc vary based on those losses?

I've always worked in B2b companies, so this has never been an issue personally.

I did steal a BB handgun from Walmart when I was like 12. I felt so guilty about it, that I un-shoplifted it a couple weeks later. My theft career was effectively over.


We have no form of security or loss prevention in our store. Shoplifting directly affects my inventory numbers, which I'm required to take once every period. $120 won't hurt me too much, but if you factor in that this duo I confronted yesterday has been hitting us multiple times per week for who knows how long, and then factor in dozens of others who shoplift us on the regular without being caught, it adds up.

A case of crab legs is currently worth $50. We've had to stop putting more than about 4 on display because we've had instances every day where people will empty our entire display and walk out the door with 10+ cases.

My goal in confronting shoplifters, if we can't get them arrested before they leave the property, is to let them know we are always watching, and that we're smarter than they might believe.
 

bjork

Member
I work at a grocery store and we can't really do much to stop them. The training is specifically centered around not doing anything to get the store or company sued. The most that ever happens is sometimes we'll have an LP guy who can stop them, but usually all they can do is keep them in the office until the cops are called, and the cop just gives them a ticket. I guess if it isn't over a certain dollar amount here, you can't do a whole lot to them.

Do you have any shoplifting stories, retail GAF? Have you ever caught a shoplifter? Did you confront them? Have you ever tried to restrain one? Do you shoplift? How do you justify it if so?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=121024
 

Koomaster

Member
I gave up my life of crime 30 years ago. Shoplifted some candy for my mom since I knew it was her favorite. Didn't understand the concept of paying for things as a little kid. Mom was like, where did you get this, oh no, we have to take it back.

2nd incident was shoplifting a tiny toy (couldn't have been more than .25-50 cent) from a toystore by accident. Was playing with it and absentmindedly put it in my pocket. Didn't discover till I had gotten home.

My dad for whatever reason used to shoplift Koolaid packets all the time; nothing else, just those. All the ill gotten Koolaid I drank as a kid! My mom would always tell him he's an idiot and ask why would he risk going to jail over Koolaid. I'm not even sure they would arrest someone for shoplifting Koolaid packets. xD
 
wtf? You did say big-name grocery chain, right? I suppose it clearly isn't that big of an issue for the company if they aren't willing to invest in any form loss prevention. Weird


It's funny because there's a new measure being used on the store radio network where a male "pages" for a "security check in sections _-_"

There are like two or three variations of the recording but they play them so often that I suspect customers and shoplifters would all catch on that it's a bullshit ploy to deter someone from stealing.
 

Sephzilla

Member
Back when I worked at a grocery store, the manager caught three employees trying to steal beer and alcohol out the loading dock. The end result was that they all got kicked off their respective high school teams and one of them lost a scholarship as a result. Beyond that level of stupidity, they also tried to do this on the night where the police officer in training was managing that night.

I never caught anyone shoplifting personally but I reported a couple of people to management a few times because they were acting suspicious.
 
The worst is people who use kids to steal. Absolutely pathetic. I saw a lady steal a bunch of stuff at a clothing store by almost putting something on her kid to trip the alarm. She walked out and left her confused his there alone to be interrogated by store employees.
Wow that's scummy.
 

Mendrox

Member
We have no form of security or loss prevention in our store. Shoplifting directly affects my inventory numbers, which I'm required to take once every period. $120 won't hurt me too much, but if you factor in that this duo I confronted yesterday has been hitting us multiple times per week for who knows how long, and then factor in dozens of others who shoplift us on the regular without being caught, it adds up.

A case of crab legs is currently worth $50. We've had to stop putting more than about 4 on display because we've had instances every day where people will empty our entire display and walk out the door with 10+ cases.

My goal in confronting shoplifters, if we can't get them arrested before they leave the property, is to let them know we are always watching, and that we're smarter than they might believe.

Sounds more like a store problem. I mean you know you lose so much money every week. Why not escalate it a bit further?
 
Wow that's scummy.


The worst is seeing people with children get caught, being held in the upstairs office and then seeing the police separating the parents from their children.

Shit sucks, regardless of the circumstances. Kids can't understand why their mom or dad is being taken from them, they were just getting groceries.
 

Fuchsdh

Member
Most shoplifting I've seen/been around has been middle class kids or teens who were "bored". The people, especially young women, who treat it like a game and brag about their "hauls" on Tumblr. It's pretty pathetic.

My only real service job at a grocery store had internal tables that expected you'd lose up to 20% of your product due to shrink. The amount of people who would try and smuggle stuff out was pretty incredible.
 
I worked retail through college and I learned one thing about the summer: Its sundress season and sundresses are absolutely amazing to steal stuff with. Especially if you have a little cushioning. I've seen women steal whole hams, hens, pepsi, and more between their thighs. This one lady in particular used to deflate and crush chip bags and stuff them into her bra, I'd never noticed but apparently she did this daily, but in every situation they all used the same explanation - hungry kids.

I feel sorry for the kids who eat extra salty foods because they didn't know it was stuffed in the same place they were born.
 
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