[Is this real???] New law in San Francisco makes shoplifting products under $950 is a no-arresting misdemeanor.

There's worst than stealing.

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So is what you're saying kind of like "hey stealing isn't bad. I mean look at all the murders! That's a lot worse". So basically if someone robs you in one state you're not allowed to get upset because 2 people got murdered in another state.

Go to California and explain that to some shop owner that gets robbed and show him your graph. That will make him feel better.
 
So is what you're saying kind of like "hey stealing isn't bad. I mean look at all the murders! That's a lot worse". So basically if someone robs you in one state you're not allowed to get upset because 2 people got murdered in another state.

Go to California and explain that to some shop owner that gets robbed and show him your graph. That will make him feel better.
don't listen to him. the shop owner will propably bash your head with that graph.
 
LOL @ those Alaska figures.

Cold weather really does make people batshit insane.

It's like upside down Florida.
 
Figures being the shit hole San Fran is.

Still though it's a misdemeanor and goes on a criminal record so it can still very much affect job opportunities and so on. Plus, is there a sort of "fine" where you still have to pay it back like a traffic ticket?
 
Figures being the shit hole San Fran is.

Still though it's a misdemeanor and goes on a criminal record so it can still very much affect job opportunities and so on. Plus, is there a sort of "fine" where you still have to pay it back like a traffic ticket?

How are they gonna fine you if you just walk out of the store with a garbage bag full of merch because nobody will stop you?

And I don't think the kind of person who walks into a store and dumps whole shelves of stuff into a garbage bag is worried about how it affects their many job opportunities.
 
How are they gonna fine you if you just walk out of the store with a garbage bag full of merch because nobody will stop you?

And I don't think the kind of person who walks into a store and dumps whole shelves of stuff into a garbage bag is worried about how it affects their many job opportunities.
Well it says they still charge you with a misdemeanor meaning if they catch you, you're getting that but without a trip to jail I guess.
 
And then the thief doesn't bother showing up to court anyway.
Probably not but they still get charged with misdemeanor.

But yeah a lot of those people won't care.

Btw I'm not defending this law. I could maybe sympathize if it was low cost items like a loaf of bread but this is utterly ridiculous. I fear our country is on a slow downward spiral if shit like this continues.
 
This is making retail support the meth business. A lot of the shoplifting is grabbing big money items and then selling them/pawning them for cash which is then used on drugs.
 
I can remember years ago watching Mrs Doubtfire and San Fran looked amazing and for a long time I wanted to go but after watching some videos and reading stories it has put me off the idea.

Worked in a hospital for a while. Every six or so months some gypsies would come in to the ER, a whole crew. They'd have one person admitted for something inane like a stubbed toe and while he was in there the rest of them would scatter and steal everything they could - toilet paper, napkins, plastic utensils, even stuff other patients/visitors left unattended in waiting areas.

Saw this happen multiple times while working there. Security was always on alert when they came through but there were always so many of these people.

This, though, this shit is awful. I imagine business owners started locking stuff up and then people cried "racism?"

That is just awful. Typical of gypos to steal from sick people though they have no morals.
 
Kinda sad, isn't it?

That reminds me, I was in a Wawa the other day. They moved the cups from the drink dispensers over to the front desk. A patron in the store noticed this and immediately complained that the the store is racist against black people. For the record, this location is in the "hood" and also has hired security for anti theft purposes since I guess it is cheaper to hire loss prevention than to eat the cost of petty theft. I guess this lady on twitter would probably call this store racist too.
 
How are they gonna fine you if you just walk out of the store with a garbage bag full of merch because nobody will stop you?

And I don't think the kind of person who walks into a store and dumps whole shelves of stuff into a garbage bag is worried about how it affects their many job opportunities.
That IS their job opportunity. $950/day
 
I feel mostly bad for the local workers and managers who will lose their jobs when the shops close.

The corporate chains will claim a fat insurance check but I am sorry to say that retail employee severance isn't usually a part of that package. They'll be out on their butts.

This is where "workers rights" and "poor-person rights" diverge, and it is one reason why the Dems are losing the support of the former.
 
sh!t ton of people steal like so many its a waste of time to go after small fish. stores just need to hire more loss prevention & make sure they have their most expensive merchandise secured
 
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LOL I used to live about 5 minutes away from this Walgreens

I believe SF also passed a law recently that prohibits officers from making arrests during traffic stops if the arrest is unrelated. Like if someone has a bag of meth or some shit. I forget exactly, but what do you expect when the DA is the son of people that were in the weather underground.

EDIT: here's an article about the law
https://www.sfexaminer.com/news/da-...ontraband-at-traffic-stops-gang-enhancements/

I was in SF last week for work and I'm there pretty often and it's been pretty sad to see the sharp decline. The city has always had problems but in the last 10 years or so it's gotten exponentially worse
 
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sh!t ton of people steal like so many its a waste of time to go after small fish. stores just need to hire more loss prevention & make sure they have their most expensive merchandise secured

yeah it should be on business owners to enforce the law not the fucking police am i right

Sorry I got heated there.
 
yeah it should be on business owners to enforce the law not the fucking police am i right

Sorry I got heated there.

??? stores with asset protection teams usually call the police after they apprehend a subject that exited the store without purchasing the merchandise they had selected. usually cops would just write the shoplifter a citation unless they stole like over a G worth of merchandise. if they're kids and can't contact the kid's parents, they would take the kids to the station. if the shoplifters had drugs or a weapon on them or haven't been cooperative, the cops would usually take them. there are more shoplifters and even dishonest workers that steal from the company than the police can handle by themselves. improvements in technology have really enabled asset protection teams to better monitor their store as well as keep track of any changes in their inventory especially for high theft and high value merchandise. can't trust a lot of people brah thats just how it is lotta people with sticky fingers. i know at my store back in the day sometimes cops would come and help monitor the store but honestly they sucked as$ at trying to catch shoplifters pretty useless stores need a dedicated team.
 
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Kinda sad, isn't it?


Yeah, that's a bit more sketch. The product more likely for people of darker skin is tagged up, while the others aren't? That's a lot different than something all-around general for everyone, like electronics or clothing being, locked or tagged up.

Might be some harmless reason, but I can't say I blame anyone for thinking otherwise.
 
Yeah, that's a bit more sketch. The product more likely for people of darker skin is tagged up, while the others aren't? That's a lot different than something all-around general for everyone, like electronics or clothing being, locked or tagged up.

Might be some harmless reason, but I can't say I blame anyone for thinking otherwise.


I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it's due to THOSE particular items being stolen, depending on the location many Walmarts, Targets etc will put safeguards on high risk items, and I again would wager that item/s were the ones being stolen the most...

Call it racist if you want, but when I worked AP the highest 3 demographics we saw committing big crimes were Mexican, white and black... in that order. We wrapped high risk and loss items too
 
I miss the old days where a swarm of SJW defenders would immediately inform you how much of a no-brainer such a law was. Always good for a laugh. I suppose there is still another hope for that.

The corporate chains will claim a fat insurance check but I am sorry to say that retail employee severance isn't usually a part of that package. They'll be out on their butts.

No insurance company is going to do a thing with something like this. That goes far beyond the scope of insurance.

The politicians of California know no limit to keeping the state blue
 
Similarly in Australia thievery of goods and consumables is seen as minor. Your first shoplift is essentially free. Only way for thieves to get busted is for them to be banned from an establishment then to get caught back in there. That can lead to criminal charges. Otherwise you can steal to your hearts content as long as you don't break and enter but steal during business hours. Makes sense I suppose, this is a country founded by thieves and petty criminals.
 
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The weirdest thing is that I've seen over the years, people of ALL stripes shoplifting in stores.

Businessmen in suits, cute girls in nice clothing - all the way down to this guy who was caught wet shaving his beard in the store with a stolen razor set. He actually ended up with a job there, he's been there about 10 years now.
 
The weirdest thing is that I've seen over the years, people of ALL stripes shoplifting in stores.

Businessmen in suits, cute girls in nice clothing - all the way down to this guy who was caught wet shaving his beard in the store with a stolen razor set. He actually ended up with a job there, he's been there about 10 years now.
He probably wouldn't have gotten the job if he wasn't clean-shaven for his interview there.
 
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