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Shuihei Yoshida says that if he was still in charge of PlayStation first party he would have tried to resist the PlayStation live-service push and joked that maybe that is why they removed him lol
Shuihei Yoshida says that if he was still in charge of PlayStation first party he would have tried to resist the PlayStation live-service push and joked that maybe that is why they removed him lol
They probably made him an offer he couldn't refuse - you can retire, get a nice package, praise, etc. Or we can fire you.Sony sacked Shui? I thought he retired.
I mean if this live service push also means more gachas coming to the GachaStation 5...Playstation's last knight.
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Dark times ahead of us, PS brothers.
Long story short, he says he stopped allocating money to the development of multiplayer games like SOCOM, Killzone, and Resistance after the PS3 era because he thought it didn't make much sense when you are limited to one platform while other multiplayer games like COD don't have that limitation, and when you already get these games on your platform as well anyway. What was different this time when he left first party and they started their new multiplayer/live service push, is that the Sony Group actually allocated specific and additional resources for that endeavor.
Then he makes that joke that they offered him that indie role to make that live service push more smooth. Really wouldn't read too much into this lighthearted comment."
In other words, it's nothing major and he isn't against live service.
And he isn't wrong. Thing is corporate wants a bigger slice of profits, rather than share it.
I'm 100% sure that if GachaStation wasn't already the console exclusive for said types of games, Sony somehow would also tackle that market.
Still, I like his approach way more than what current Sony execs are doing/pushing.
Before clueless people react to the blurb and ignore the context, here's a breakdown of this from one of the Era posters:
"The section starts at 01:08:05 and the specific joking quote is at 01:13:39.
Long story short, he says he stopped allocating money to the development of multiplayer games like SOCOM, Killzone, and Resistance after the PS3 era because he thought it didn't make much sense when you are limited to one platform while other multiplayer games like COD don't have that limitation, and when you already get these games on your platform as well anyway. What was different this time when he left first party and they started their new multiplayer/live service push, is that the Sony Group actually allocated specific and additional resources for that endeavor.
Then he makes that joke that they offered him that indie role to make that live service push more smooth. Really wouldn't read too much into this lighthearted comment."
In other words, it's nothing major and he isn't against live service.
It really seems an end of an era for me .. the current management, direction and output from Sony .. are really out of touch with all I come to expect from them.Please bring back the ps4 dreamteam. We went from the best management team to the worst.
Same here, gaming in general is going downhill fast since then.It really seems an end of an era for me .. the current management, direction and output from Sony .. are really out of touch with all I come to expect from them.
And what part of all of this contradicts his joke ? .. it gives context but the joke by itself is pretty self explanatory... no jokes are made lightly and the better ones have the right amount of truth.
Forum dwellers are quick to react to a headline or blurb without bothering to look at the source and understand the context. That's what my post was meant to nip in the bud.
As for the joke, we have no way of judging how much or how little truth there is behind it, but that wasn't the part I was addressing anyways. I was getting ahead of those who would bitch and whine about the Live Service Boogeyman
Well so you went immediately in defense mode about the thread and joke even quoting ERA .. so you seem to be reacting exactly like the forum dwellers you apparently diminish would but just the other way around.
That's how I feel too.It really seems an end of an era for me .. the current management, direction and output from Sony .. are really out of touch with all I come to expect from them.
I've been in enough and read enough of these discussions to know that spreading a bit of sanity and context is important, especially if done early.
Completely right here, service games are way more likely to thrive if it's available to more people. Sony themselves have already realized this and have adapted their strategy accordingly.Before clueless people react to the blurb and ignore the context, here's a breakdown of this from one of the Era posters:
"The section starts at 01:08:05 and the specific joking quote is at 01:13:39.
Long story short, he says he stopped allocating money to the development of multiplayer games like SOCOM, Killzone, and Resistance after the PS3 era because he thought it didn't make much sense when you are limited to one platform while other multiplayer games like COD don't have that limitation, and when you already get these games on your platform as well anyway. What was different this time when he left first party and they started their new multiplayer/live service push, is that the Sony Group actually allocated specific and additional resources for that endeavor.
Then he makes that joke that they offered him that indie role to make that live service push more smooth. Really wouldn't read too much into this lighthearted comment."
In other words, it's nothing major and he isn't against live service.
Na you just appear condescending and highly defensive ... as I said the joke is self explanatory and nothing of what you posted changes the meaning and implications of it.
An btw.. are you an alt of man in boxes ? Or all GaaS super fanboys have this natural sense of moral superiority ?
I don't think he was fired or retired.Sony sacked Shui? I thought he retired.
He's referring to when he was the president of SIE studios and was demoted to indie manager.Sony sacked Shui? I thought he retired.
Sony sacked Shui? I thought he retired.
Response generated by AIFire that pussy Hulst and get Emperor Hirohito in there. I need the most Japanese shit ever to course-correct stat.
Emperor Hirohito makes Nintendo look like a Midwestern family reunion.Response generated by AI
If you're looking for the most Japanese shit ever you should consider Nintendo Switch.
I think the woke Herman will not last that long especially with commons sense back and cultural change especially in USA. Live or GAAS is a difficult gamble and its over saturated already. I hope all leadership will all go back to Japan even in Sony USA.Without guys like Yoshida Playstation is just an XBOX with a legacy. Give Hermen Hulst ten more years and he will sink the ship, just like Phil Spencer did.
Still think that Shu was just innocently joking ? .... LOL.. what a disasterYeah I'm done with you. Good day
Does Marvel Rivals really prove anything? It's Marvel done half decently at a time when everyone else is either fumbling (Insomniac) or outright flopping (MCU). I wouldn't have bet on a third person Overwatch clone before it, and I wouldn't now - especially if it doesn't have a major and fitting IP to do it with. Meaning a license.Having live service games added to their portfolio was the right call even if some of the choice of games weren't. Marvel Rivals being the latest success story just reinforces that when not that long ago people were bitching that no one wanted games like that.
Before clueless people react to the blurb and ignore the context, here's a breakdown of this from one of the Era posters:
"The section starts at 01:08:05 and the specific joking quote is at 01:13:39.
Long story short, he says he stopped allocating money to the development of multiplayer games like SOCOM, Killzone, and Resistance after the PS3 era because he thought it didn't make much sense when you are limited to one platform while other multiplayer games like COD don't have that limitation, and when you already get these games on your platform as well anyway. What was different this time when he left first party and they started their new multiplayer/live service push, is that the Sony Group actually allocated specific and additional resources for that endeavor.
Then he makes that joke that they offered him that indie role to make that live service push more smooth. Really wouldn't read too much into this lighthearted comment."
In other words, it's nothing major and he isn't against live service.
Yeah, that's cool. I'm overjoyed that they've invested in this live service push and are going full steam ahead. I'm already enjoying it's output and look forward to what's next
Forum dwellers are quick to react to a headline or blurb without bothering to look at the source and understand the context. That's what my post was meant to nip in the bud.
As for the joke, we have no way of judging how much or how little truth there is behind it, but that wasn't the part I was addressing anyways. I was getting ahead of those who would bitch and whine about the Live Service Boogeyman