It was a big issue to me because the snow effects crippled the framerate. But it's only in the hub that it's like that, it's not in the missions at all.
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Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time |OT| Sly & the Familys Tome are Back!
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It was a big issue to me because the snow effects crippled the framerate. But it's only in the hub that it's like that, it's not in the missions at all.
I found that more often than not, the framerate takes a dive when you alert an enemy in the busier hubs, like episode 3. I don't think it was really optimized to have those guys seeking you out while you're running away, but the alert level is short enough for it to not be a major problem. Amusingly, I did manage to get a couple of the hedgehog guards stuck behind a drum in episode 4, so their alert level never dropped, so the framerate kept getting worse and worse the further I got away from them. Nothing a simple return to the hideout couldn't fix, but it was funny that you could actually have that happen.
CaptainZombie
Member
I agree, World 3 was very bad framerate wise. I've had a few issues in world 4 a few times but nowhere near like world 3.
I like this better than Sly 2 and 3, but there are a few things from those games in this that make me cringe at times.
I like this better than Sly 2 and 3, but there are a few things from those games in this that make me cringe at times.
Yeah there was a few times the frame rate dropped on me, but in the grand total of time I spent playing the game it was very insignificant. The game looked amazing to me and many times just found myself shifting the camera around to just view the world. If the game is possible to get for $30 then get it definitely worth it. I have bought many games that have worse frame rate issues for 60 and to be honest are much worse than what you would experience in Sly 4.
In World 3 the
just reeked of amateur and lazy game design. The minigames themselves weren't difficult or broken or bad or anything, they were just lame and not fun and it would have been better if they
by designing an awesome set of platforming levels or something.
It's stuff like that that scuffs the polish from this otherwise well-made Sly game.
Bob Olympics
trained Bob to get back into shape
It's stuff like that that scuffs the polish from this otherwise well-made Sly game.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
Platinum'd it. Saw the secret ending. Great game. Would love a Sly 5 by Sanzaru games one day.
Wow, really? I thought they were the best minigames in the whole game. Reminded me of Yeti Sports.
I preferred doing the minigames instead of controlling Bob. He handles like a tank compared with Sly.
The mini games were fun, but I could see how they could get boring. I liked that I was not finding myself doing the section over 5 times because the mini game required perfection. I remember getting a bit frustrated at some of the tasks in Sly 3 and that Murray race in Sly 1.
Beat the game!
I had a fun time, this being my first Sly game and all. Played and looked great on the Vita. Even though I haven't played the previous titles I still kind of get what reviewers mean when they say that Sly is a throwback. That's not necessarily a bad thing though as I had a fun time just gathering bottles and pulling slick circle jumps.
Now I'm finishing hunting for all of the collectibles and I kind of wish they told you what you got in the safes. I got the bottle locater but I don't know what the treasure in world 2 does.
I had a fun time, this being my first Sly game and all. Played and looked great on the Vita. Even though I haven't played the previous titles I still kind of get what reviewers mean when they say that Sly is a throwback. That's not necessarily a bad thing though as I had a fun time just gathering bottles and pulling slick circle jumps.
Now I'm finishing hunting for all of the collectibles and I kind of wish they told you what you got in the safes. I got the bottle locater but I don't know what the treasure in world 2 does.
It seems like Bob's sort of intended to play more like Murray than the Coopers, if just because he can't use any of the agile moves that Sly can. I thought he was pretty clunky as well.
All the treasures from the safes are in your treasure stash in the hideouts too. The one from world 2
makes more coins drop from enemies and scenery
PhantomOfTheKnight
Member
The treasure from world two increases the amount of coins you get from pick-pocketed loot.
It boosts the coins you get from anything in general; you'll wind up wishing you could put the money back in their wallets with how much you'll end up with once the upgrades run out.
Hmm, looked through my treasures and didn't find the safe pieces. Probably missed it. Good deal though and thanks to everyone else who replied.
I'm gonna wait till summer to start the HD collection. Excited though, I really enjoyed Sly's universe.
I don't suppose you uploaded it to the Cross Save cloud by chance?
I was a fool not to.
Now you get to experience the joy of Geisha Murray a SECOND time!
Yeaaa....no, I finished the story so I decided to just sell the game and not go back. Although I was almost close to collecting everything
Platinum the game then beat the final boss.
adamsappel
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Effigenius
Member
Except that I wasn't looking to start a PS3 quest first. I got the game primarily to play on the Vita (just so much easier for me to play mobile games) so I wasn't going to start a quest on PS3 and then transfer it over, I wanted to start the game on the Vita.
And really, there is no good justification for not including the procedure on how to get the Vita version via cross-play. If nothing else it helps promote the Vita. If someone who didn't know about this feature sees this and was already considering a Vita, this could push them over the edge. Sony needs to be making sure more cusomers know about the Vita, not withholding transfer instructions that should be obvious inclusions.
master_emman
Neo Member
Got to world three today and spent a good hour just roaming around collecting bottles and such. It was the most fun I've had with the game yet- I love exploring in a good 3D platformer.
Also, the training sequence was gold.
Any advice on finding the 29th/30th bottles in an area?
Also, the training sequence was gold.
Any advice on finding the 29th/30th bottles in an area?
Delicious Waffles
Member
Just started it today. Liking it so far.
Only gripe is the load times. They're pretty lengthy.
Other than that, it's good stuff and I'm a happy Sly fan.
Only gripe is the load times. They're pretty lengthy.
Other than that, it's good stuff and I'm a happy Sly fan.
I used a youtube video to get the last one or two bottles here. For me, they were sneaky in that they were on the ground and not high up. One was in a little ice tunnel behind a snow rock or something, and another was just outside another cave, up and inside a hollowed stalactite or something. I could hear it tinking around though.
Most important area to get the bottles though, as once you open the safe here
you get a treasure that will then reveal the bottles on your map
Playing on Vita? I know on PS3 the loads between levels can be sorta long (not really, imo), but the reloads are fast as hell. I was really impressed with how quickly I was playing again after dying or restarting a checkpoint.
Delicious Waffles
Member
Just PS3. The initial loads are kinda lengthy. The reloads though, you're totally right, are extremely fast. That's awesome. Gets you right back into it.
Not sure if anyone from UK GAF is venturing into this thread at the moment but I picked this up for PS3 last week while in the US and I just can't get into it.
So i'd like to send it to someone else if they fancy playing it a month earlier than the UK release. I was thinking the UK retail price, then I'll cover the shipping. If that sounds good then PM me.
So i'd like to send it to someone else if they fancy playing it a month earlier than the UK release. I was thinking the UK retail price, then I'll cover the shipping. If that sounds good then PM me.
semiconscious
Member
got this, just reached the second boss, decided to check out the ot, & there, at the top of the page, is a post saying everything i wanted to at this point. especially the bolded section: it'd appear the developers felt that all of the mini-games could automatically be made even twice as good simply by making them twice as long as they should be. & it really is a shame, to the extent that, as yuterald says, the sly/ancestor segments are really well done...
so, yeah - 'the bentley & murray crap needs to go, dudes!' they're obnoxious & one-dimensional as characters (bentley's voice, in particular, is mind-bogglingly grating), & their mini-games do nothing other than successfully, repeatedly interrupt what is otherwise a clever/fun game. the time & energy poured into their sections would've been far better spent on creating another ancestor or 2...
eddfromtheriver
Banned
Any hopes for a patch?, i think i'm gonna wait and see if they release one before i bite.
There won't be a patch - the game has been finished since November. But honestly, the framerate is just a minor nuisance and certainly shouldn't stop you from buying it.
Acquiescence
Member
I've never known a game to hard lock my console quite as frequently as this one. Since I've started playing it, the game has frozen on average twice a day. It's hardly a graphical powerhouse that pushes the system to its limits!
AgentP
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I just finished, never locked once.
I got 44% of the trophies, I think I'm too burned out to fire the game up again. They should have left out the 3rd level and made the game a bit shorter.
Aside from releasing the title with little marketing support, not really. There was talk about layoffs at Sanzaru around August when the game was completed and scheduled to launch before it got pushed back to February for some arbitrary reason, so that was probably just typical end of development turnover.
If memory serves they're working with Sony on their next game already.
Mikey Jr.
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RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
I finally got around to playing this a few days ago and I just beat the game today. As a huge fan of the previous games, I'd say that Thieves in Time is a pretty worthy entry in the series, though I'd still rank it behind 1 and 2, and maybe put it on par or a little behind 3. Some parts of the game felt outdated, there are a lot of things that are just sort of thrown in for no real reason, and it ultimately felt too short, but overall I thought it was a good first effort from Sanzaru.
Other thoughts:
I really liked Tennessee Kid and Sir Galleth. They were really fun characters and I would love to see them return at some point. Salim Al Kupar was likable enough though sort of bland. "Bob" and Rioichi were alright, I guess.
The (jazzy) score was generally pretty good.
I thought the animated cutscenes looked sort of low rent. Carmelita looked terrible and Sly looked pretty bad as well. I would have preferred a more cell shaded and comic booky look to them, ala the previous games.
I think the Sly franchise would actually translate very well into an animated series. I would love to see Sly and the gang's exploits on a weekly basis with an animation style similar to A Cat in Paris. *drool*
Costumes were a fun, if not gimmicky, addition, and they weren't really useful outside of certain contexts (opening treasure doors and whatnot). Sly's crawling animation while in the
was really amusing though. :3
She was totally shoehorned in. She barely had any missions at all, yet they give you the option to play as her in every world and she even has new abilities for purchase via Thief Net. Totally pointless.
I was also surprised by, 638 Bentley hacking mini games aside, how little time you actually spend playing as Bentley and Murray. They have very few missions and some of them are even split 50/50 with Sly...Which makes the fact that they each have dozens of purchasable abilities via Thief Net baffling, as you don't have many opportunities to use them and most of them are completely useless anyway.
I really appreciated the game's emphasis on Sly and his ancestors, and even though I like Bentley and Murray (enjoyed playing as them in 2 and 3, etc.), I'm glad that I didn't have to play as them very often in 4. Sly 3 went too overboard with playable characters so it was nice to see Thieves in Time scale that back as much as they did.
I would actually love for Sly 5 to be 100% Sly with maybe an ancestor or two thrown in there for good measure.
I thought some of the missions overstayed their welcome for sure (Geisha Hippo Dance and Carmelita's belly dance in particular), but overall I thought that each episode felt too short. The amount of missions per episode is pretty slim and the number of episodes pales in comparison to 2 and 3. The over worlds in Thieves in Time were the biggest yet, but the amount of missions were the smallest yet, which resulted in each over world feeling pretty empty.
Other thoughts:
I really liked Tennessee Kid and Sir Galleth. They were really fun characters and I would love to see them return at some point. Salim Al Kupar was likable enough though sort of bland. "Bob" and Rioichi were alright, I guess.
The (jazzy) score was generally pretty good.
I thought the animated cutscenes looked sort of low rent. Carmelita looked terrible and Sly looked pretty bad as well. I would have preferred a more cell shaded and comic booky look to them, ala the previous games.
I think the Sly franchise would actually translate very well into an animated series. I would love to see Sly and the gang's exploits on a weekly basis with an animation style similar to A Cat in Paris. *drool*
Costumes were a fun, if not gimmicky, addition, and they weren't really useful outside of certain contexts (opening treasure doors and whatnot). Sly's crawling animation while in the
Sabertooth costume
She was totally shoehorned in. She barely had any missions at all, yet they give you the option to play as her in every world and she even has new abilities for purchase via Thief Net. Totally pointless.
I was also surprised by, 638 Bentley hacking mini games aside, how little time you actually spend playing as Bentley and Murray. They have very few missions and some of them are even split 50/50 with Sly...Which makes the fact that they each have dozens of purchasable abilities via Thief Net baffling, as you don't have many opportunities to use them and most of them are completely useless anyway.
I really appreciated the game's emphasis on Sly and his ancestors, and even though I like Bentley and Murray (enjoyed playing as them in 2 and 3, etc.), I'm glad that I didn't have to play as them very often in 4. Sly 3 went too overboard with playable characters so it was nice to see Thieves in Time scale that back as much as they did.
I would actually love for Sly 5 to be 100% Sly with maybe an ancestor or two thrown in there for good measure.
Yep. Utterly baffling. I thought that they would reveal that Le Paradox had hypnotized her or something, but nope, Penelope was apparently a self serving villainess all along. I mean, she was cheating in the dogfight races and pretending to be the Black Baron in 3, (Black Baron, Black Knight...I see a pattern here...) so I guess it sort of fits her profile, but I felt like it really came out of nowhere.
I was also confused for most of the game regarding Le Paradox's master plan. So he wants to create an ancient kingly/princely lineage for himself...why is that such a bad thing? So he's the king of Arabia or whatever in present day - why would that threaten anyone or anything? I understand the stuff about wanting to be the best thief ever, stealing the Cooper canes, etc. but that part didn't make a lick of sense to me.
I was also confused for most of the game regarding Le Paradox's master plan. So he wants to create an ancient kingly/princely lineage for himself...why is that such a bad thing? So he's the king of Arabia or whatever in present day - why would that threaten anyone or anything? I understand the stuff about wanting to be the best thief ever, stealing the Cooper canes, etc. but that part didn't make a lick of sense to me.
I know that a lot of people were speculating a few months ago that Sanzaru's next game would be a new Jak and Daxter game (which would be awesome), but considering that they ended Sly 4 with several mysteries: What happened to Sly, Penelope escaping prison, Final Chapter? trophy, etc. I think it's safe to say that they're probably working on Sly 5.
I thought some of the missions overstayed their welcome for sure (Geisha Hippo Dance and Carmelita's belly dance in particular), but overall I thought that each episode felt too short. The amount of missions per episode is pretty slim and the number of episodes pales in comparison to 2 and 3. The over worlds in Thieves in Time were the biggest yet, but the amount of missions were the smallest yet, which resulted in each over world feeling pretty empty.
Well, the main issue was that he was
using that fake lineage to take over the whole world. If he was just going to be king of Arabia, that's still bad and Cooper being noble would've put a stop to it anyway. But if it gave him that much sway in Paris too, you can imagine why he would've had to put a stop to it.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
That doesn't make any sense though.
How, exactly, does having an ancient lineage enable him to take over the world?