New Red Dwarf seasons and Upstart Crow (the Shakespear Black Adder) are excellent, so we can still do great comedy. I found low budget stuff like Mandy and Mamouth pretty funny too. It's just not as regular as it used to be.Jesus fucking Christ, my country has completely lost the ability to make comedy.
Where's the modern day Blackadder, Fawlty Towers, Red Dwarf or Morecambe & Wise?
Everything has been so focus grouped to death and santised of anything that could possibly offend anyone that all we're left with is this bland, anodyne shit.
Nothing that makes it to tv now is remotely funny.Jesus fucking Christ, my country has completely lost the ability to make comedy.
Where's the modern day Blackadder, Fawlty Towers, Red Dwarf or Morecambe & Wise?
Everything has been so focus grouped to death and santised of anything that could possibly offend anyone that all we're left with is this bland, anodyne shit.
Sketch shows and laughtracks are kind of dead - The Royle Family was probably the last nail in their coffin.Jesus fucking Christ, my country has completely lost the ability to make comedy.
Where's the modern day Blackadder, Fawlty Towers, Red Dwarf or Morecambe & Wise?
Everything has been so focus grouped to death and santised of anything that could possibly offend anyone that all we're left with is this bland, anodyne shit.
Jesus fucking Christ, my country has completely lost the ability to make comedy.
Where's the modern day Blackadder, Fawlty Towers, Red Dwarf or Morecambe & Wise?
Everything has been so focus grouped to death and santised of anything that could possibly offend anyone that all we're left with is this bland, anodyne shit.
Here We Go (BBC) inhabits the sort of family friendly space most of your list is in.Jesus fucking Christ, my country has completely lost the ability to make comedy.
Where's the modern day Blackadder, Fawlty Towers, Red Dwarf or Morecambe & Wise?
Everything has been so focus grouped to death and santised of anything that could possibly offend anyone that all we're left with is this bland, anodyne shit.
I know a lot of people love panel shows like Mock The Week. But like you say the shift to focus on that kind of thing and away from sitcoms was very much about cutting costs because they're relatively cheap to make and you can churn them out. I remember hearing from someone working in comedy that around that time it became far more difficult to get a sitcom comissioned.Here We Go (BBC) inhabits the sort of family friendly space most of your list is in.
Overall, I think it's not a question of not being able to make shows, it's one of economics. Scripted comedy is so expensive to make versus other types of comedy. Fawlty Towers and Morecambe and Wise are rooted in a time when British audiences had a choice of 3 channels to watch on TV. Quite a bit different now.
So, we get shows where multiple episodes can be recorded in a single day and are put together in the edit afterwards. Panel shows. Last One Laughing. Ugh.
The only thing you can do is try to support things that you'd like to see more of.
Jesus fucking Christ, my country has completely lost the ability to make comedy.
Where's the modern day Blackadder, Fawlty Towers, Red Dwarf or Morecambe & Wise?
Everything has been so focus grouped to death and santised of anything that could possibly offend anyone that all we're left with is this bland, anodyne shit.
Oh fuck noI don't know anyone who still watches network tv in the UK.
Do you ever get the feeling you overthink things?I just imagine the guys behind the camera looking at their watches and sending messages home saying "sorry it's going to be a late one. Again."
A bit of me wonders if Gervais realised that outtakes would be a good bit of marketing material and it was built into the schedule, that they were filming not just the show, but promo material. There are so many of these clips of him being overcome by something he finds hilarious that you wonder how you'd get anything finished in the originally planned time. Those outtake clips are edited, they've been colour graded and sound mixed. So they've been produced for public consumption.
It's rather reductionist to say that all of these fantastic shows were the result of a terrestrial tv oligopoly.Here We Go (BBC) inhabits the sort of family friendly space most of your list is in.
Overall, I think it's not a question of not being able to make shows, it's one of economics. Scripted comedy is so expensive to make versus other types of comedy. Fawlty Towers and Morecambe and Wise are rooted in a time when British audiences had a choice of 3 channels to watch on TV. Quite a bit different now.
So, we get shows where multiple episodes can be recorded in a single day and are put together in the edit afterwards. Panel shows. Last One Laughing. Ugh.
The only thing you can do is try to support things that you'd like to see more of.
No, it's an industry I work in so I am not using a lot of imagination.Do you ever get the feeling you overthink things?
I'm still hoping for a Chris Morris comeback. The Day Today and Brass Eye are the ultimate of unsanitsed comedy.Sketch shows and laughtracks are kind of dead - The Royle Family was probably the last nail in their coffin.
Don't know how far back you'd class as modern, but since you didn't list anything post-1980s, here are a few more recent British comedy series (from this century anyway) that were very good, and not sanitised / focus grouped.
This Country
The IT Crowd
Gavin and Stacey
Peep Show
The Inbetweeners
Motherland
After Life
Fleabag
The Office
Car Share
Outnumbered
Pulling
Plus Alan Partidge is still going, and still funny. There's hope!
In this day and age, I don't envy you it has to be said.No, it's an industry I work in
I don't think many others are in that industry eitherso I am not using a lot of imagination.
It's rather reductionist to say that all of these fantastic shows were the result of a terrestrial tv oligopoly.
Russel Brand ruined it for everyone like the pointless nonce he is. But I can't see something like the Brass Eye pedophile special surviving today in the world of right wing social media outrage as it was taking the piss out of moral panic types and everyone is like that these days.I'm still hoping for a Chris Morris comeback. The Day Today and Brass Eye are the ultimate of unsanitsed comedy.
Are you the boz boz?I'm still hoping for a Chris Morris comeback. The Day Today and Brass Eye are the ultimate of unsanitsed comedy.
Jam was great, but was a bit too much even for me sometimes.Are you the boz boz?
Did you check out Jam ?
I'm still hoping for a Chris Morris comeback. The Day Today and Brass Eye are the ultimate of unsanitsed comedy.
League of gentlemenJam was great, but was a bit too much even for me sometimes.
Are you the boz boz?
Did you check out Jam ?
You have joovdeeca?I still have the doovde of Jam - its got its time and place, worth a dust off occsaionlly for sure, along with a couple of recordings of Blue Jam as well knocking about somwhere. Shame he's not about much anymorenow is the time we need more Chris Morris's
I do not know what a joovdeeca is, however if I do have one I can only apologiseYou have joovdeeca?
Some of those are great, I completely agree.Sketch shows and laughtracks are kind of dead - The Royle Family was probably the last nail in their coffin.
Don't know how far back you'd class as modern, but since you didn't list anything post-1980s, here are a few more recent British comedy series (from this century anyway) that were very good, and not sanitised / focus grouped.
This Country
The IT Crowd
Gavin and Stacey
Peep Show
The Inbetweeners
Motherland
After Life
Fleabag
The Office
Car Share
Outnumbered
Pulling
Plus Alan Partidge is still going, and still funny. There's hope!
Oh fuck no
I'd rather fillet my ballbag. I get more enjoyment out of receiving death threats from the BBC for my lack of licence inclusion they send me monthly.
JVCI do not know what a joovdeeca is, however if I do have one I can only apologise![]()