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[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

I've been playing Apex since day one stealth drop and this season 24 the game changed from Halo-esque to COD-ified, for the worse.

I'm not playing this season, the TTK is shocking, you might as play CS:GO. What a terrible move by Respawn.

Literally not even the same game. I can understand changes and meta that aren't for me and I've played through seasons like that, the highs and lows for my personal tastes. This season is fucking terrible, it's nothing like Apex its entire lifespan. Beyond random encounters, classes gone, weapons affecting every aspect of gameplay/movement and that atrocious near instant TTK where you cannot even peek a corner now.

For now, fuck off Apex it's been great but I cannot support those enormous changes of the base game from counter attacking game to just straight up COD. Fuck off, for now. Hopefully Respawn don't keep this super quick TTK any longer than S24.

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

I've been playing Apex since day one stealth drop and this season 24 the game changed from Halo-esque to COD-ified, for the worse.

I'm not playing this season, the TTK is shocking, you might as play GS:GO. What a terrible move by Respawn.

Literally not even the same game. I can understand changes and meta that aren't for me and I've played through seasons like that, the highs and lows for my personal tastes. This season is fucking terrible, it's nothing like Apex its entire lifespan. Beyond random encounters, classes gone, weapons affecting every aspect of gameplay/movement and that atrocious TTK where you cannot even peek a corner now.

For now, fuck off Apex it's been great but I cannot support those enormous changes of the base game from counter attacking game to just straight up COD. Fuck off, for now. Hopefully Respawn don't keep this TTK any longer than S24.

How are the classes gone?

 

[clarky]

Played the shit out of this game when it came out. loved it.

Whats up with the TTK it was near perfect on release.

 

[crazepharmacist]

You talking cod or warzone like TTK? Cause warzone TTK is high in my opinion. Plenty of times I'm able to run, duck for cover, plate up and return fire. That's the nature of the game.

 

[Donald mac Ronald]

I remember apex og and you had all sorts of shields and shit. No way you could realistically kill people at long range

 

[kevboard]

the TTK will be changed again I bet.
they will probably keep the red helmet mechanic, but remove all the damage buffs for the weapons.

I personally don't mind the change that much, as I am in the top MMR anyway (in the new MMR view in PUBS, my marker is literally on the far right like 1 pixel away from the edge... which I found wild lol), which always results in people lasering you the second you peek.
as someone who mains Octane and just rushes people down, the lower TTK feels less impactful, as I kill people within less than a second either way.


IMO last season was far worse. the relics completely destroyed pubs. you basically had to instantly just hunt relics in order to get whatever overpowered super weapon was in them this week, or you'd get completely fucked in the ass by some dude sniping you down from 50m away with a relic Mastiff, and has that phase shift crap so you can't even kill him beacuse he just phases away, and then his teammate would come around the corner and skullfucks you with an EPG

 

[HogIsland]

They disallowed steam deck, so peace to them.

 

[Kronark]

I walked away from Apex when they killed Arenas (The only real competitive mode the game had) in favour of that awful point capture mode and introduced the random queue. It was hilarious to pop in the subreddit and see how bad the game had gotten with the FF7 buster sword in the game deleting people. I don't know if I want a Titanfall 3 anymore if these are the people who are going to make it.

 

[kevboard]

I walked away from Apex when they killed Arenas (The only real competitive mode the game had) in favour of that awful point capture mode and introduced the random queue. It was hilarious to pop in the subreddit and see how bad the game had gotten with the FF7 buster sword in the game deleting people. I don't know if I want a Titanfall 3 anymore if these are the people who are going to make it.

the buster swords was actually pretty bad. you could easily counter it.

 

[fersnake]

love and hate this game, TTK, hackers, bad lobbies for solo players. i mean sometimes im 100% that im playing with lvl 1 bots that clearly they dont know how to play but for some reason i get paired with.

im not that good anymore like old times but at least i reach platinum 1 or diamond levels.

 

[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

How are the classes gone?

There is so much random stuff and abilities pickups you literally have other characters abilities as equitable map items or traits on weapons you arm etc. Those class lines have been blurred heavily.

Played the shit out of this game when it came out. loved it.

Whats up with the TTK it was near perfect on release.

It's shockingly quick now e.g. 9 spitfire shots
are done in 3. If you even miss one shot you're fucked now. Winning 1v2 or 1v3 ain't a thing anymore. Team sniping means instadeath. There is some really shitty near instant TTK now from weapons to pickups to traits.

Forgot about disengaging and countering now, Ash buffs literally fucked the solo/team movement sandbox.

You talking cod or warzone like TTK? Cause warzone TTK is high in my opinion. Plenty of times I'm able to run, duck for cover, plate up and return fire. That's the nature of the game.

Near counter strike one shot levels.

 

[kevboard]

Ash buffs literally fucked the solo/team movement sandbox.

Ash will probably be nerfed to death soon.

sadly Respawn only nerfs and buffs based on pick rate for some fucked up reason, but that will lead to a pretty swift nerf of Ash I think, since she has broken the pick-rate record of any previous character and season.

what is insane to me is that only a few weeks before making Ash the best movement character to ever be in the game, even tho she isn't even supposed to be in the movement/Skirmisher class, they nerfed the actual movement character Pathfinder so hard that he is basically no longer viable.
the combination of that extreme buff, and that exact nerf so close to each other is absolutely mindbogglingly stupid.

 

[clarky]

There is so much random stuff and abilities pickups you literally have other characters abilities as equitable map items or traits on weapons you arm etc. Those class lines have been blurred heavily.



It's shockingly quick now e.g. 9 spitfire shots
are done in 3. If you even miss one shot you're fucked now. Winning 1v2 or 1v3 ain't a thing anymore. Team sniping means instadeath. There is some really shitty near instant TTK now from weapons to pickups to traits.

Forgot about disengaging and countering now, Ash buffs literally fucked the solo/team movement sandbox.



Near counter strike one shot levels.

Yeah sounds pump. Seems like they got a decent bump on the CCU though. Desperate moves or is this what the community asked for?

 

[hououinkyouma00]

TTK was always too high for me and I dropped it very early on so this actually sounds great to me.

That being said, having got into PUBG from the very beginning and having around 2K hours in the game I just can't get into a BR that doesn't have that same sense of fear and anxiety.

 

[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

Ash will probably be nerfed to death soon.

sadly Respawn only nerfs and buffs based on pick rate for some fucked up reason, but that will lead to a pretty swift nerf of Ash I think, since she has broken the pick-rate record of any previous character and season.

what is insane to me is that only a few weeks before making Ash the best movement character to ever be in the game, even tho she isn't even supposed to be in the movement/Skirmisher class, they nerfed the actual movement character Pathfinder so hard that he is basically no longer viable.
the combination of that extreme buff, and that exact nerf so close to each other is absolutely mindbogglingly stupid.

Some of those double dash, triple in-air directional changes and super long range portal hundreds of meters now are just bananas. Too much.

Yeah, Pathy got kicked in the nuts. Seeing Mirage go years without buffs while lifeline has been beast mode to now Mirgae/support nerfed back to the dark ages plus quick heals is just shit. A real series of gut punches for my boy Mirage and my style of play/TTK/engagment tactics.

Yeah sounds pump. Seems like they got a decent bump on the CCU though. Desperate moves or is this what the community asked for?

I hope it's just start of season and there is a massive drop off rate, this assault take on Apex ain't Apex at all, it's counterstrike or low TTK COD basically.

 

[Facism]

low TTK on 20 tick servers is jokes lmao.

Hope you like dying around corners and through doors even more than you used to

 

[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

low TTK on 20 tick servers is jokes lmao.

Hope you like dying around corners and through doors even more than you used to

So fucking true, exactly what happens often now. Literally just my last game that happened, blatantly.

 

[TheKratos]

Was watching some streams, TTK seems same...? Though I've seen moments where players absolutely melted. Are there like temporary damage buffs?

 

[TheShocker]

I hadn't played this game in YEARS after playing a lot after the stealth drop.

Loaded it back up the other day and I'm somehow on the far right of the MMR curve. WTF. I'm getting fried left and right.

And the TTK is wildly fast if you have anything less than purple armor.

Everything else felt fine though.

 

[Windom Earle]

I've been playing Apex since day one

 

[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

I hadn't played this game in YEARS after playing a lot after the stealth drop.

Loaded it back up the other day and I'm somehow on the far right of the MMR curve. WTF. I'm getting fried left and right.

And the TTK is wildly fast if you have anything less than purple armor.

Everything else felt fine though.

The game is great, the constant shift season to season is welcomed but the extreme lowering of the TTK just steps away from what the base of Apex and Titanfall have been for so long.

 

[Banjo64]

Got back in to this on PS5 recently, maxed out the season 24 battle pass, actually doing really well.

Am I getting this right though, Kings Canyon and the other 2 maps from s24 are now out of circulation for 90(!) days? The entire duration of s25?

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Where is Men_in_Boxes solving Respawn´s problem with a master class in GaaS design?

 

[mayham2199]

Where is Men_in_Boxes solving Respawn´s problem with a master class in GaaS design?

He's to busy educating us on the next GAAS Juggernaut that is Embark. The fromsoft of GAAS if you will.

 

[HJuggernaut]

I think people are tired of BRs, Apex lost 70% of its playerbase in 2024 they are not coming back. It had a good run.

 

[kevboard]

Got back in to this on PS5 recently, maxed out the season 24 battle pass, actually doing really well.

Am I getting this right though, Kings Canyon and the other 2 maps from s24 are now out of circulation for 90(!) days? The entire duration of s25?

map rotations usually change every split, so about every half season.

 

[Super Lemon Drop]

Interesting to hear all this. I had a very complicated relationship with Apex Legends.

 

[Super Lemon Drop]

I think people are tired of BRs, Apex lost 70% of its playerbase in 2024 they are not coming back. It had a good run.

I think it is also about bad changes made to the games, or not enough meaningful changes and proper optimization (see: PUBG).

For me, BR is still way more compelling than traditional modes like TDM, DOM, CTF, SnD, etc.. The issue is that it is a demanding ask for players to queue and then die and then queue again. It really exposes peoples' egos and skills. (I am no elitist; I am below average to average at best in multiplayer anything!) The next issue is keeping it compelling enough to keep players engaged. At least in traditional modes, you're guaranteed time or score limits. A match will last for ten minutes or to a certain score. In BR you might be dead in seconds or minutes for long stretches so there has to be some type of rewarding play or incentive to keep coming back. When poor changes are made, or no changes in some cases, players leave.

 

[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

I think it is also about bad changes made to the games, or not enough meaningful changes and proper optimization (see: PUBG).

For me, BR is still way more compelling than traditional modes like TDM, DOM, CTF, SnD, etc.. The issue is that it is a demanding ask for players to queue and then die and then queue again. It really exposes peoples' egos and skills. (I am no elitist; I am below average to average at best in multiplayer anything!) The next issue is keeping it compelling enough to keep players engaged. At least in traditional modes, you're guaranteed time or score limits. A match will last for ten minutes or to a certain score. In BR you might be dead in seconds or minutes for long stretches so there has to be some type of rewarding play or incentive to keep coming back. When poor changes are made, or no changes in some cases, players leave.

Yeah I've been into BR for years thanks to Apex but now with less mates to squad up with I find my time spent in TDM rotations as I can just get to it per engagement.

 

[Super Lemon Drop]

Yeah I've been into BR for years thanks to Apex but now with less mates to squad up with I find my time spent in TDM rotations as I can just get to it per engagement.

A huge factor. I played the majority of Apex by queuing with randoms. It was terrible and frustrating throughout; I stayed with it because of how much I actually loved the game itself. I'd have stuck around if they made true Solos a permanent thing, but they have said they won't do that. Like most of modern multiplayer gaming, playing solo without friends is abysmal unless you're a cracked player, and even then carrying gets old or losing due to randos' incompetence is frustrating as hell.

 

[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

A huge factor. I played the majority of Apex by queuing with randoms. It was terrible and frustrating throughout; I stayed with it because of how much I actually loved the game itself. I'd have stuck around if they made true Solos a permanent thing, but they have said they won't do that. Like most of modern multiplayer gaming, playing solo without friends is abysmal unless you're a cracked player, and even then carrying gets old or losing due to randos' incompetence is frustrating as hell.

Big one for me is finding Aussies to squad with that actually what to have a laugh while being competitive and not getting agro at every loss.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Embark. The fromsoft of GAAS

 

[Metnut]

Season 24?!?!?

You kids and your forever games. No thanks. I'll go boot up Expediton 33 and KCD2. Thanks.

 

[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

Season 24?!?!?

You kids and your forever games. No thanks. I'll go boot up Expediton 33 and KCD2. Thanks.

Pssst, now season 25.

 

[DenchDeckard]

My most played BR. Spent hundreds of hours on it. Dropped off quite a few seasons ago and never came back.

I hope they an pull it back as I loved the game

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

My most played BR. Spent hundreds of hours on it. Dropped off quite a few seasons ago and never came back.

I hope they an pull it back as I loved the game

What's the reason for the fall off?

It seemed to hit its peak in spring 2023. Did something change?

 

[Rickyiez]

S24 was pretty fun overall. I've came back to Apex again since S17 and love the current short TTK. Fights don't drag that long anymore , pacing is much faster now. The long TTK with all the support res and reset was worse.

 

[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

S24 was pretty fun overall. I've came back to Apex again since S17 and love the current short TTK. Fights don't drag that long anymore , pacing is much faster than now. The long TTK with all the support res and reset was worse.

Yeah the random abilities and weapon traits were too much previously but this last season with short TTK and less random traits/ pickups has been pretty much aces.