Tim the Wiz
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Hard to judge without knowing what the choices were, though.
So Mo'Nique wins an Oscar then just disappears
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Hard to judge without knowing what the choices were, though.
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In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
she one of those comediennes that can also do serious roles
only to you and one other poster because for some reason, you took my praise of her acting skills as me typecasting her or some other bullshit. then instead of asking for clarification, you assumed I was being fucking racist and saying "All black actors just have a natural affinity for churning out Oscar-caliber performances when playing impoverished, down-on-your-luck and violent, angry characters" when nothing in my post came off like that. but i'm done with this conversation and you can stay upset if you want.
I only knew her from charm school
Oh crap, I just admitted that I watched charm school
generally drama is a lot easier than comedy
VH1 was really killing it with those reality shows. They were ahead of their time.
PhoenixDark
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Melissa McCarthy is white, she appeals to a wide group of white women for the same reason All About That Bass is the #1 song in the country. Same folks wouldn't give the same attention or love to an overweight minority. Easier to identify with folks who look like you, basically. I don't think that's racist or prejudice on their part.
Angelus Errare
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Mccarthy is white.
As someone with no acting experience whatsoever, I would've thought the opposite would be true.
entremet
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It's the ugly truth, though.
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and even within the category, she's an exception, far from the norm for "overweight" actresses.
seriously what is the point? its like you're trying to get the last unnecessary word.
IIRC, his first role after Jerry Maguire was Boat Trip, which is one of those comedies that thought gays were just so damn funny to justify some really gross homophobia. And that was one of the bright spots.
PhoenixDark
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True. But interestingly it almost always ends up leading to a career of garbage or type cast roles for black winners.
I don't know if an Academy Award is a way to make your career. It is a nice reward, but I don't remember many people that became famous because of their award. Just looking through Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress, I don't see many people that went on to get great careers that didn't already have one.
Or Kerry Washington. I hate being cynical but everyone loves her now because of Scandal.
well it really depends, if you're going by the extremes of comedy = doing a silly dance and drama = crying on screen then they're probably tied
but it's quite telling how there are always more dramas on screen than there are comedies, and how many more comedic actors ace the tragedy stuff compared to the other way around
I think to do comedy well you have to know drama, it's almost like drama is a subset of comedy. If you can play comedy well, and you know the beats and the subtleties then playing the tragedy is just the part of your acting repertoire you focus on for that role.
I have no acting experience either, just what i've observed and gleaned from some celeb interviews.
KefkaPalazzo
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Well we know for sure he turned down the lead role in Amistad, so that doesn't speak well for his choices.
I liked her as the hot blind woman who liked rock hard...uh...stuff.
That movie would have sucked even harder if he had the lead. Djimon Honsou made that film watchable, even if he never really had a headlining career himself.
RobotChant
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She's lost a lot of weight and is now on the whole health and fitness, do it for my kids, train.
This just reminds me of all the controversy when Howard Stern said the girl from Precious would have no career cause she was extremely overweight and black, and the whole planet hated him for it.
But there aren't really roles for big black women. Most of the time a character defaults to white. And then when they do get a minority actor, it needs to be part of the story somehow. Like when all Spanish character leap into Spanish when scared or just use Spanish catch phrases for no reason.
But there aren't really roles for big black women. Most of the time a character defaults to white. And then when they do get a minority actor, it needs to be part of the story somehow. Like when all Spanish character leap into Spanish when scared or just use Spanish catch phrases for no reason.
Yeah because movies and tv shows only have 1-2 actors/actresses
Mushroomer25
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Lupita's already been cast in Star Wars. Even if she never worked a day after that, she leveraged that Oscar to get into one of the biggest franchises of all time. Far from just "disappearing".
Lord Fagan
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Try not to confuse skepticism with incredulous disgust.
They're still turned up off that.
DeaconKnowledge
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Ken Masters
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Leading Oscar nominated role to bit parts?
Discotheque
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Juicy J's solo career is huge and da mafia six been giving us that heat
IdreamofHIME
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Adrien Brody, tho.
Adrien Brody isn't the same Oscar mystery as Mo'Nique, he's in the same one as Marisa Tomei. Mo'Nique earned her Oscar...those other two didn't.
Ken Masters
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Brody didn't earn his Oscar? What? He was amazing in The Pianist
Weapxn
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Bit parts? She was a fairly prominent character on The Big C for four seasons, and she also had more of a role than several other actresses during her season of American Horror Story. Huge roles? No. Not "bit parts" either though.
Black-Wind
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... I read it that way to.
I mean, it's kinda like saying " I just read the script for this show someone's making called "Breaking Bad" annnnnd you know who I think would just naturally be perfect for this role?!? Malcolm's dad!!! Cause he ... looks like a white dad when I look at him?".
I think that there's a huge difference between having a role be tailor made and perfect for someone ( Snoop from the wire. All she had to do was play herself apparently and that's why she was so great) and saying that an actor just really knocked something outta the park because of their skill (Stringer Bell from the wire).
Buuuuut w/e.
For all we know Mo'Nique is happy with what she has now and is focusing on other stuff. It's not like there's a ton of roles for heavy women OR chocolate women in general.
Ken Masters
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I'm talking Hollywood films
I also don't think she's a particularly good actress (compared to Mo'Nique, who floored me in Precious), so she's actually doing quite well for herself, given her talent limitations.
She wasn't the star of any of those shows or movies. Cuba Gooding made plenty of movies after he won the oscar. Would you say he had a great career based on those films?
Disgust about Hollywoods racism or about me pointing it out?
Freeza Under The Shower
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People dissing Brody?
the fuck is this shit
also: not everyone wants to be an actor or do more than one role. See: Newt in Aliens.
the fuck is this shit
also: not everyone wants to be an actor or do more than one role. See: Newt in Aliens.
Ken Masters
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It still carries serious weight, an Oscar win for a white actor sets them for life with movie roles
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LilWayneSuckz
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Yup, Hollywood is really racist, and they aren't exactly knocking down her door for roles.
Her role in Precious was pretty shocking. The last scene gave me chills and you could see Mariah Carey break character.
Her role in Precious was pretty shocking. The last scene gave me chills and you could see Mariah Carey break character.
Ninja Scooter
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She's not marketable. Winning an oscar has never really guaranteed future success.
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