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[JoshuaJSlone]

Wait, what? So 3x 3,x Ghz equals a 7xx Mhz Celeron CPU?

GPU != CPU

 

[zou]

GPU != CPU

Really, Sherlock?

So the Xenon GPU is only 2 times more powerful than the Geforce2/3 combo? Alrighty.

 

[[Nintex]]

I expect revolution's hardware to do HDR lightning and other shader model 3.0 stuff.
When I boot up Super Mario Revolution and use the new controller I really dont care how the graphics are, Revolution is the evolution of the Gamecube hardware I expect they use the same efficient architecture. PS3 and Xbox360 games will look nicer, but im sure I can play 70% of those games on my PC.

 

[DefectiveReject]

I expect a GC level of visuals against current Gen hardware, but maybe with the PS and Xbox switching places
But then we all know nothing and we may go back to SNES type visuals which Nintendo kick ass at!!

 

[Oblivion]

Really, Sherlock?

So the Xenon GPU is only 2 times more powerful than the Geforce2/3 combo? Alrighty.

Xbox GPU: 250 mhz
Xbox 360's GPU: 500 mhz

 

[maxmars]

Xbox GPU: 250 mhz
Xbox 360's GPU: 500 mhz

Are you seriously trying to say that the 360 GPU is 2x the performance of the original xbox GPU because it's roughly 2x the clock speed?

 

[zou]

Are you seriously trying to say that the 360 GPU is 2x the performance of the original xbox GPU because it's roughly 2x the clock speed?

Shit, so my AMD64 4200+ is less than 2x that of my brothers AMD TB 1400? I got owned by AMD :/

 

[Oblivion]

Are you seriously trying to say that the 360 GPU is 2x the performance of the original xbox GPU because it's roughly 2x the clock speed?

No. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy in people who praise Xbox360 for allegedly having 10 times more power, with double the GPU of the original Xbox, yetl jump on the rev. and call it GC 1.5 or whatever because it was supposed to be 2-3 times the clockspeed of the GC gpu.

 

[DefectiveReject]

No. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy in people who praise Xbox360 for allegedly having 10 times more power, with double the GPU of the original Xbox, yetl jump on the rev. and call it GC 1.5 or whatever because it was supposed to be 2-3 times the clockspeed of the GC gpu.

Its GAF and people hate on Nintendo at any given opportunity
Roll on E3
Which Is less than 3months away, and we will finally know where we are at.

 

[Raven.]

I expect revolution's hardware to do HDR lightning and other shader model 3.0 stuff.
When I boot up Super Mario Revolution and use the new controller I really dont care how the graphics are, Revolution is the evolution of the Gamecube hardware I expect they use the same efficient architecture. PS3 and Xbox360 games will look nicer, but im sure I can play 70% of those games on my PC.

Ps3 basically has a built in ppu, thanks to the cell. You need a top of the line system with a $600 vid card and a $200+ ppu card, and I don't expect the latter to catch on so it may not even be possible at all to play ps3 games there, not to mention exclusives.

No. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy in people who praise Xbox360 for allegedly having 10 times more power, with double the GPU of the original Xbox, yetl jump on the rev. and call it GC 1.5 or whatever because it was supposed to be 2-3 times the clockspeed of the GC gpu.

We're also judging by the rumored specs elsewhere(1Ghzish gecko, sub 100MB of real-ram, in the low 100s if you include slow A-ram, 3MB edram iirc.), honestly we can't expect a miracle to happen in just one spec category, everything else looks like they're probably making an effort to give outdated h/w and save a few cents/bucks, if true.

 

[GaimeGuy]

Ps3 basically has a built in ppu, thanks to the cell. You need a top of the line system with a $600 vid card and a $200+ ppu card, and I don't expect the latter to catch on so it may not even be possible at all to play ps3 games there, not to mention exclusives.


We're also judging by the rumored specs elsewhere(1Ghzish gecko, sub 100MB of real-ram, in the low 100s if you include slow A-ram, 3MB edram iirc.), honestly we can't expect a miracle to happen in just one spec category, everything else looks like they're probably making an effort to give outdated h/w and save a few cents/bucks, if true.

:lol give me a break. PCs will be outdoing next gen consoles by 2008 or 2009, at the latest.

 

[Amir0x]

:lol give me a break. PCs will be outdoing next gen consoles by 2008 or 2009, at the latest.

Like it's even going to take that long. Shit will be outdone by early 2007.

 

[jarrod]

We're also judging by the rumored specs elsewhere(1Ghzish gecko, sub 100MB of real-ram, in the low 100s if you include slow A-ram, 3MB edram iirc.), honestly we can't expect a miracle to happen in just one spec category, everything else looks like they're probably making an effort to give outdated h/w and save a few cents/bucks, if true.

The 3MB edram thing comes for alpha kits using overclocked Flippers in place of the final GPU (which wasn't finished yet). It'll change in all likelihood.... and now there's questions about a possible CPU change too (from just an overclocked Gekko).

 

[Phranky]

Please

this thread.

Even as a Nintendo fan I'm becoming really damn tired of these endless threads which are comprised entirely of nothing but speculation, please, please stop.

 

[maxmars]

No. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy in people who praise Xbox360 for allegedly having 10 times more power, with double the GPU of the original Xbox, yetl jump on the rev. and call it GC 1.5 or whatever because it was supposed to be 2-3 times the clockspeed of the GC gpu.

Ahh ok, I misinterpreted. Sorry.

 

[[Nintex]]

:lol give me a break. PCs will be outdoing next gen consoles by 2008 or 2009, at the latest.

ATi's X1900XTX and Nvidia's 7900GTX say otherwise.
I also thought the Gamecube and Xbox had nice graphics untill I got my new PC with a 6800GS.

 

[xexex]

:lol give me a break. PCs will be outdoing next gen consoles by 2008 or 2009, at the latest.

yes but the PCs that can outdo the new consoles by then will be in the hands of less than 1% of PC users.

 

[Shiggy]

First in-game shot (although it's still on GameCube hardware):

 

[Raven.]

Like it's even going to take that long. Shit will be outdone by early 2007.

I've not heard of any cpu in the 200+Gflops range arriving this year or next. It is doubtful they'll outclass it where it counts, physics, gphx wise diminishing returns + added game dev. costs, will probably make sure they stay quite close in the gphx arena for years to come.

 

[xexex]

I've not heard of any cpu in the 200+Gflops range arriving this year or next. It is doubtful they'll outclass it where it counts, physics, gphx wise diminishing returns + added game dev. costs, will probably make sure they stay quite close in the gphx arena for years to come.

for the rest of this decade, PC games are probably not going to blow away what X360 and PS3 can do. developers NEVER take full advantage of the current top spec PCs at any given time. PCs are so incredibly in-efficent and have such horrible bottlenecks.

PC games currently outclass the games on PS2, Gamecube and Xbox, but not by an order of magnitude that they should, given the hardware progress. which shows you that PC games are not going to outgun X360/PS3 for a long long time.

 

[BBunny]

First in-game shot (although it's still on GameCube hardware):

WTF?!

 

[DrGAKMAN]

You have to know how ridiculaous that sounds. There is no way th sensor bar is not going to be wired to the system.

That's what I thought. But some guys pointed out RFID to me in another thread I believe...maybe even this one...look it up.

 

[GaimeGuy]

Like it's even going to take that long. Shit will be outdone by early 2007.

Dude I'm being conservative here to prevent attacks.

 

[DrGAKMAN]

cause they hate you and want you to shut up.

or it could have an sd card slot or two, and a usb port or two up there as well as in the back. there are reasons to have usb both in front and back you know (or maybe you dont apparently). and its not really that big if you consider the whole size of the console.


well it was a stupid decision. they shouldve just dropped the old port completely and made a newer one that could handle audio+component or whatever other output.

and why do you keep saying svga btw? are you just referring to the resolution, or are you referring to the physical port? cause you know its no different from a plain 'vga' port right? or do you just like to anger me?

You sound a lil' hostile there man. We're just theorizing on where/what the ports on the system are. I'm standing by this...front panel flap: 1 SD card slot & 2 USB ports, back ports: power, digital out & SVGA out (or...if RFID isn't in the cards for the sensor bar, a connection for that).

 

[AndoCalrissian]

I see what you guys are saying, but Ando...you're basing that off a conflicting report. The USB *could* be in the back, but why's the flap on the front pannel so big then?

It's really not that big of a panel on the front, when you consider the actual size of the Revolution. I am basing what I said off of what someone who has actually seen and held the console shell reported.

SD on the front. USB, A/V out, and power on the back. Sounds pretty simple, which is exactly what Nintendo wants.

 

[DrGAKMAN]

It's really not that big of a panel on the front, when you consider the actual size of the Revolution. I am basing what I said off of what someone who has actually seen and held the console shell reported.

SD on the front. USB, A/V out, and power on the back. Sounds pretty simple, which is exactly what Nintendo wants.

I'm just mad 'cos I got served!