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[Baron Aloha]

With a ton of RPGs hitting the PS2 for the rest of the year I was wondering if I was missing out on anything.

Here are the RPGs/Pseudo RPG's I've got right now:

PLAYSTATION 2
.hack Part 1 - Infection
.hack Part 2 - Mutation
.hack Part 3 - Outbreak
.hack Part 4 - Quarantine
Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance 2
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter
Champions of Norrath
Champions of Norrath: Return to Arms
Dark Cloud
Dark Cloud 2
Disgaea - Hour of Darkness
Drakengard
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X-2
Full Metal Alchemist
Gauntlet: Dark Legacy
Grandia II
Grandia Xtreme
Harvest Moon: Save the Homeland
Kingdom Hearts
La Pucelle Tactics
Musashi Samurai Legend
Okage: Shadow King
Phantom Brave
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
Star Ocean 3
Suikoden III
Suikoden IV
Unlimited Saga
Wild Arms 3
Xenosaga
Xenosaga 2 (planning on getting it soon)
Ys: The Ark of Napishtim

GAMECUBE
Baten Kaitos
Evolution Worlds
Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles
Harvest Moon: A Wonderul Life
Lost Kingdoms
Lost Kingdoms II
Megaman X Command Mission
Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
Phantasy Star Online Episode I & II
Phantasy Star Online Episode I & II Plus
Phantasy Star Online Episode III: C.A.R.D. Revolution
Pokemon Colloseum
Skies of Arcadia Legends
Tales of Symphonia
Virtua Quest
Xmen Legends
Zelda: LOZ/AOL/OOT/MM
Zelda: Four Swords
Zelda: Wind Waker

 

[demi]

Shadow Hearts
Shadow Hearts Covenant
Legaia 2 Duel Saga
OKAGE Shadow King
Jade Cocoon 2
Star Ocean 3
Galerians ASH
Ephermeral Fantasia
Dual Hearts

 

[Baron Aloha]

So Legaia 2 is actually good? I bought it on clearance at CC last year for $5 and later sold it for $20. I never even opened it.

I've got Star Ocean 3 but I forgot to list it. I just checked and I have Okage as well.

Shoot, come to think of it I might be missing a few others but please, keep listing the good RPGs folks.

 

[demi]

It's not as good as the first, but for $5 you can't go wrong (I got a copy there toooo)

 

[Andy787]

I second Okage. Fun, quirky little game.

 

[Amir0x]

With a ton of RPGs hitting the PS2 for the rest of the year I was wondering if I was missing out on anything.

Here are the RPGs/Pseudo RPG's I've got right now:

PLAYSTATION 2
.hack Part 1 - Infection
.hack Part 2 - Mutation
.hack Part 3 - Outbreak
.hack Part 4 - Quarantine
Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance 2
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter
Champions of Norrath
Champions of Norrath: Return to Arms
Dark Cloud
Dark Cloud 2
Disgaea - Hour of Darkness
Drakengard
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X-2
Full Metal Alchemist
Gauntlet: Dark Legacy
Grandia II
Grandia Xtreme
Harvest Moon: Save the Homeland
Kingdom Hearts
La Pucelle Tactics
Musashi Samurai Legend
Phantom Brave
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
Suikoden III
Suikoden IV
Unlimited Saga
Wild Arms 3
Xenosaga
Xenosaga 2 (planning on getting it soon)
Ys: The Ark of Napishtim

You're missing SHADOW HEARTS: COVENANT. Final Fantasy XI. X-Men Legends on this side (you got it for GC, of course... so no worries). Shadow Hearts, that's an RPG...like. EverQuest Online Adventures: Frontiers. Bard's Tale. Magic Pengel: The Quest for Color. Legaia 2: Duel Saga (yuck). Summoner 1/2. Wizadry. The Lord of the Rings: The Third Age. Okage. Harvest Moon: Save the Homeland. Is Tsugunai an RPG? Dual Hearts. Heroes of Might and Magic: Quest for the Dragon Bone Staff. King's Field: The Ancient City. Eternal Ring. The Nightmare of Druaga. Ephemeral Fantasia. Evergrace. Virtual Quest. Stella Deus. Growlanser I + II. Atelier Iris (Basically).

Note, many of these RPGs are complete trash. I'm just giving you completist version.

GAMECUBE
Baten Kaitos
Evolution Worlds
Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles
Harvest Moon: A Wonderul Life
Lost Kingdoms
Lost Kingdoms II
Megaman X Command Mission
Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
Phantasy Star Online Episode I & II
Phantasy Star Online Episode I & II Plus
Phantasy Star Online Episode III: C.A.R.D. Revolution
Pokemon Colloseum
Skies of Arcadia Legends
Tales of Symphonia
Virtua Quest
Xmen Legends
Zelda: LOZ/AOL/OOT/MM
Zelda: Four Swords
Zelda: Wind Waker

As far as I can see, you pretty much got the RPGs locked down for the GC side.

 

[demi]

Stella Deus

 

[Shard]

Though Fire Emblem: Path of Radience and Pokemon XD will be needed additions in the ocming months.

 

[Amir0x]

Stella Deus

ATELIER IRIS! Basically...

 

[jiggle]

Atelier Iris comes out tomorrow!



Don't think these were mentioned yet:

Stella Deus
Growlanser II & III
Shining Tears

 

[AniHawk]

Though Fire Emblem: Path of Radience and Pokemon XD will be needed additions in the ocming months.

And X-Men Legends 2.

 

[demi]

Growlanser Generations

Stella Deus haven't been mentioned yet.

owned

 

[Bartman3010]

Beyond Good and Evil is Zelda-esque, but kind of short if you just go for the story.

 

[Baron Aloha]

Beyond Good and Evil is Zelda-esque, but kind of short if you just go for the story.

Yup, got that one too. I also have Sphinx, which is another Zelda esque game. Its kinda hard to figure out where to draw the line.

 

[Scott]

Here are some lists of every (I think...) RPG for both platforms, excluding hybrids (Cubivore, EverBlue, Chaos Legion, etc) and adventure titles. I know that last bit rubs some people the wrong way, but you seem to have every Zelda title but the Master Quest bonus disc anyway, so it shouldn't be a big deal.

GameCube

Available Now:
• Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance
• Baten Kaitos: Eternal Wings & the Lost Ocean
• Digimon World IV
• Evolution Worlds
• Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles
• Future Tactics: The Uprising
• Gladius
• Lost Kingdoms
• Lost Kingdoms II
• Megaman X: Command Mission
• Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
• Phantasy Star Online: Episodes I & II
• Phantasy Star Online: Episodes I & II: Plus
• Phantasy Star Online: Episode III: C.A.R.D. Revolution
• Pokémon Box: Ruby & Sapphire (well, it's companion software to the RPGs, at least )
• Pokémon Colosseum
• Skies of Arcadia: Legends
• Summoner: A Goddess Reborn
• Tales of Symphonia
• The Lord of the Rings: The Third Age
• Virtua Quest
• X-Men Legends

Coming Soon: (* = May not see US release)
• Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
• HomeLand*
• Gofuku*
• Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness
• X-Men Legends II: Rise of Apocalypse

PlayStation 2

Available Now:
• .hack//INFECTION: Part I
• .hack//MUTATION: Part II
• .hack//OUTBREAK: Part III
• .hack//QUARANTINE: Part IV: The Final Chapter
• Arc the Lad: End of Darkness
• Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits
• Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana
• Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance
• Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance II
• Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter
• Champions of Norrath
• Champions: Return to Arms
• Crimson Tears
• Dark Cloud
• Dark Cloud II
• Digimon World IV
• Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
• Drakan: The Ancients' Gates
• Drakengard
• Dual Hearts
• Ephemeral Fantasia
• Eternal Ring
• EverGrace
• EverQuest: Online Adventures
• EverQuest: Online Adventures: Frontiers
• Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel
• Final Fantasy X
• Final Fantasy X-2
• Final Fantasy XI: Online (HDD Bundle)
• Final Fantasy XI: Online: Chains of Promathia
• Forever Kingdom
• Front Mission IV
• Full Metal Alchemist & the Broken Angel
• Future Tactics: The Uprising
• Gladius
• Grandia II
• Grandia Xtreme
• Growlanser: Generations (In Standard & Deluxe Flavors)
• Inuyasha: The Secret of the Cursed Mask
• Jade Cocoon II
• Kingdom Hearts
• King's Field: The Ancient City
• La Pucelle: Tactics
• Legaia II: Duel Saga
• Legion: The Legend of Excalibur
• Magic Pengel: The Quest for Color
• Megaman X: Command Mission
• Musashi: Samurai Legend
• Okage: Shadow King
• Phantom Brave (In Standard & Special Edition Flavors)
• RPG Maker II
• Shadow Hearts
• Shadow Hearts: Covenant
• Shifters
• Shining Tears
• Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga
• Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne (In Standard & Limited Edition Flavors)
• Star Ocean: 'Till the End of Time
• Stella Deus: The Gate of Eternity
• Suikoden III
• Suikoden IV
• Summoner
• Summoner II
• The Bard's Tale
• The Legend of Alon D'ar
• The Lord of the Rings: The Third Age
• The Nightmare of Druaga: Fushigino Dungeon
• Tsugunai: Atonement
• UNLIMITED Saga
• Virtua Quest
• Warriors of Might & Magic
• Wild ARMs III
• Wizardry: Tale of the Forsaken Land
• Xenosaga: Episode I: Der Wille zur Macht
• Xenosaga: Episode II: Jenseits von Gut und Böse
• X-Men Legends
• Ys: The Ark of Napishtim

Coming Soon: (* = May not see US release)
• .hack//G.U.: Part I
• .hack//G.U.: Part II*
• .hack//G.U.: Part III*
• Ambrosia Odyssey*
• Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana II*
• Castlevania: Curse of Darkness
• Code Age: Commanders*
• Colosseum: Road to Freedom
• Dark Cloud III*
• Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII*
• Dragon Quest V*
• Dragon Quest VI (Rumored)*
• Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King
• Drakengard II: love red, ambivalence black*
• Far East of Eden*
• Fate of Ages*
• Final Fantasy XII
• Front Mission V*
• Front Mission Online
• Full Metal Alchemist II: Curse of the Crimson Elixir
• Full Metal Alchemist III: Heiress to the Gods*
• Gauntlet: Seven Sorrows
• Graffiti Kingdom
• Grandia III
• Growlanser IV: Wayfarer of the Time*
• Gundam True Odyssey: The Legend of the Forgotten G*
• Kingdom Hearts II
• Magna Carta: Tears of Blood
• Makai Kingdom: Chronicles of the Sacred Tome
• Metal Saga*
• Mobile Suit Gundam SEED: Destiny: Generation of C.E.*
• Namco X Capcom*
• Phantasy Star Universe
• Pride of the Dragon Peace*
• Radiata Stories
• Rhapsodia/Suikoden Tactics*
• Romancing SaGa
• RPG Maker III (In Standard & Special Edition Flavors)
• SEGA Ages: Dragon Force*
• SEGA Ages: Phantasy Star Trilogy
• Shadow Hearts: From the New World*
• Shining Force Neo
• Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga II
• Swashbucklers: Blue & Grey*
• Tales of Destiny II ()*
• Tales of Legendia
• Tales of Rebirth ()*
• Tear Ring Saga Series: Berwick Saga: Lazberia Chronicle Chapter 172*
• Wild ARMs: Alter Code: F
• Wild ARMs: The 4th Detonator*
• Wizardry: Summoner*
• X-Men Legends II: Rise of Apocalypse
• Ys III: Wanderers From Ys*
• Ys IV: Mask of the Sun: A New Theory*
• Ys V*
• Zill O'll Infinite*
• Zwei!!*

I'm really not going to go down the line and recommend games, though, as I really disagree with the majority on GAF. Like just looking at Amir0x's post above, with him calling most of his list "complete trash," ...I just can't say I agree. So with that said, I don't think my recommendations would be very helpful to what you're trying to accomplish here, so hopefully the lists are good enough.

 

[Amir0x]

I'm really not going to go down the line and recommend games, though, as I really disagree with the majority on GAF. Like just looking at Amir0x's post above, with him calling most of his list "complete trash," ...I just can't say I agree. So with that said, I don't think my recommendations would be very helpful to what you're trying to accomplish here, so hopefully the lists are good enough.

I didn't say "most", I said "many." That said, of course you'd disagree with me since at least 90% of all RPGs this gen (and all gens, really) are complete ANIMU-inspired tripe, with writing not fit for submission into the mighty database at FANFIC.ORG.

But I digress, I'm sure we'd crossover in a lot of our opinions since you're probably WAY more forgiving than I am of current gen RPGs many, near endless flaws.

 

[Scott]

Excuse me? Have we even ever had a conversation about RPGs before? Seriously, I can't remember ever talking to you about them, but maybe I'm just blanking on this.

I also didn't know I was into anime-inspired tripe, or even much into anything anime to begin with... but apparently you know more about my tastes than I do. That, or you're just a dick hell-bent on assuming you know me. Which is it?

 

[Amir0x]

Excuse me? Have we even ever had a conversation about RPGs before? Seriously, I can't remember ever talking to you about them, but maybe I'm just blanking on this.

I also didn't know I was into anime-inspired tripe, or even much into anything anime to begin with... but apparently you know more about my tastes than I do. That, or you're just a dick hell-bent on assuming you know me. Which is it?

You came to more conclusions than I did. I was only speaking for myself, and since you said "I can't agree that most of the RPGs [Amir0x] listed are crap", I assume that of course you'd disagree because of [list of reasons I hate most RPGs]. In other words, since I dislike most of the RPGs and you don't, then why wouldn't we disagree? I didn't say you liked those RPGs because of the reasons I hated it. I also assume you're naturally more forgiving than I am since you said you didn't agree with my comment about most of the RPGs I listed being crap.

 

[Scott]

Right.

The way you wrote it implies that "of course" I'd disagree because everything you hate about them (see rant above) would be right up my alley. That's kind of how the disagreeing thing works, no?

Secondly, the thing most of GAF lacks is a scale of quality. Everybody is perfectly happy being little twits lumping everything in the "shit" category (or "complete trash," if you will), instead of realizing the scale includes things like 'bad,' 'mediocre,' 'average,' 'good,' etc as well. It's either "Great!" or not worth a damn on this forum, and that's why I said I'd disagree.

 

[Amir0x]

Right.

The way you wrote it implies that "of course" I'd disagree because everything you hate about them (see rant above) would be right up my alley. That's kind of how the disagreeing thing works, no?

No disagreeing can be a pretty simple thing. You think something isn't trash, I think something is trash. The reasons you feel it isn't trash may be entirely different from the reasons I feel it is. Don't read too much into it, you'll give yourself a headache.

Secondly, the thing most of GAF lacks is a scale of quality. Everybody is perfectly happy being little twits lumping everything in the "shit" category (or "complete trash," if you will), instead of realizing the scale includes things like 'bad,' 'mediocre,' 'average,' 'good,' etc as well. It's either "Great!" or not worth a damn on this forum, and that's why I said I'd disagree.

I think the thing gamers in general lack is some standards. Many gamers simply don't demand more from the titles they get, and so it continues a downward spiral. Taking RPGs as an example. Since when did console RPGs - playing the role of a character - stop needing a quality story? Granted, there was never a great standard to begin with. It started off poorly. But why haven't these games evolved with everything else, in this generation of multi-million polygon counts and high definition gaming? I never realized that most of the appeal of those games were slogging through random battles with choice menus, or hack and slashing through eighty billion dungeons with generic beasties and garbage puzzles. And hell, let's say that IS a good portion of the appeal... since when did games become about only delivering partial quality? (Note: I'm not saying RPG gameplay is necessarily bad) If 1/3 of the game (or movie, or book) is total shit, then doesn't that make the game either aggressively mediocre or not worth the price tag?

So, yes, there are "middle grounds." Of course, many of the games I mention are merely mediocre or bad. But ya know what? I don't really feel like paying 50 or 20 dollars for mediocrity. Others may, but I don't. So that's how I feel.

That's a seperate rant, you realize. It's not necessarily directed at you.