Support NeoGAF

[TheSadRanger]

I have an aunt that passed away about four years ago, yet her Facebook account still exists.

There's no notification on whether she's deceased, nor alive. It says nothing on her profile.

Why does shit like this exist within scummy ass Facebook? I'm not saying that it should be deleted as much as there should at least be a headliner if the person is still alive.

 

[LemmingWithaParachute]

I have an aunt that passed away about four years ago, yet her Facebook account still exists.

There's no notification on whether she's deceased, nor alive. It says nothing on her profile.

Why does shit like this exist within scummy ass Facebook? I'm not saying that it should be deleted as much as there should at least be a headliner if the person is still alive.

You dont want facebook deciding what is fake news or not fake news.

But you want deciding who is dead or alive?

Pick 1.

 

[TDiddyLive]

Facebook doesn't magically know if somebody died. Unless that person changes their status...

 

[GHG]

A family member needs to get her credentials and edit the profile or request Facebook close the account.

 

[Grinchy]

Facebook doesn't magically know if somebody died. Unless that person changes their status...

Yeah, OP, how would an automated piece of software know that your aunt died 4 years ago?

 

[Wandering Leopard]

It should really just auto delete accounts if there's no activity for approx. 2 years.

 

[Solis]

On Facebook, you can choose a legacy account. That person will be able to take over your profile if you pass away and set it to show you've passed away (or deactivate the profile for you, if that's what you preferred).

 

[Birdo]

What's wrong with it still being there?

It's an archive of that person's life. Actually one of the few decent reasons to have a social media account. Remind people that you were once alive.

 

[Kadayi]

A family member needs to get her credentials and edit the profile or request Facebook close the account.

^ This

I know we all like to rag social media, but the plain truth of the matter is this isn't a case of deliberate malice on Facebook's part, as the OP seems to imply versus an abject lack of information regarding his Late Aunts Status. Contrary to popular belief, big brother isn't watching, the algorithms are, and they're not necessarily geared towards detecting whether users are dead.

 

[Woo-Fu]

Imagine a world where Facebook could instantaneously know that someone had died. Even then should Facebook do anything? Probably not. You don't want Facebook breaking that news to you, do you?

The reality of the situation is that even if Facebook could do something on its own---which it can't---it shouldn't in this case. It's up to the family. Maybe they want the profile removed, or perhaps they want it left up as another form of memorial to the deceased. That's a family decision, not a Facebook decision.

Oh, and on the lighter side just imagine what happens with the inevitable false positives in any system Facebook could implement.

 

[sonomamashine]

It should really just auto delete accounts if there's no activity for approx. 2 years.

That would be wrong, imagine how many would be triggered after finding out Facebook deleted your grandmother pictures, memories & shit.

 

[Mad_Titan]

I had a friend die a few months ago and I love that I can still go on go on his profile.

 

[Gargus]

Then delete it. Or do you honestly expect Facebook to be responsible for monitoring the living status of each and every user in the world, ask to see a death certificate and then take time to delete their account? If you don't like then as a living relative you delete it.

 

[Jezbollah]

One of my best friends passed away a few years ago. There is a feature they used to turn his FB profile into an ongoing memoriam - when you go on there now the profile states "Remembering X".

 

[lock2k]

I have an aunt that passed away about four years ago, yet her Facebook account still exists.

There's no notification on whether she's deceased, nor alive. It says nothing on her profile.

Why does shit like this exist within scummy ass Facebook? I'm not saying that it should be deleted as much as there should at least be a headliner if the person is still alive.

You can inform facebook and they'll remove it.

I fucking hate those memorial pages and I took my mom's page down as soon as she died in 2014.

As for friends I have that died and the pages didn't went down, I just blocked them. I don't want a digital graveyard. Especially when some of these dead people get "online" from time to time with stupid family members using their accounts.

 

[DeafTourette]

You can inform facebook and they'll remove it.

I fucking hate those memorial pages and I took my mom's page down as soon as she died in 2014.

As for friends I have that died and the pages didn't went down, I just blocked them. I don't want a digital graveyard. Especially when some of these dead people get "online" from time to time with stupid family members using their accounts.

That's you ... I have friends who've passed. Including friends I've not seen in a long time (or never met in person) and I can get to know who they were to others.

I have family who've passed... And I can look at the words they said and the memories we had together. I can also ALWAYS find pictures on their pages that I never saw before ... Especially when I thought I had them all.

I'm sorry for your loss. I'm sorry for when anyone loses someone they love. But the way you handle it doesn't have to inform the way others handle it. We all grieve in our own ways.

I'd'dather have that memorial to remember who they were and what we were.

 

[The Scrivener]

Imagine a world where Facebook could instantaneously know that someone had died. Even then should Facebook do anything? Probably not. You don't want Facebook breaking that news to you, do you?

*Best James Hetfield voice* Gatesy has a solution for you baby!!! That is, implantable microchips monitoring your every movement until there is no more movement.

If only there was a way Lord Gatesy could get inside everyone's body. If only the desired situation arose in the world whereby your heart rate was monitored by the government.

I know someone who recently passed away before all this shit started, lucky bastard, and their profile was legacy'd as an above poster says. It was weird. I found out about his death through FB and felt strangely sad even though I hadn't seen him in person for over a decade. What I took away from the experience after the shock was that the external world isn't such a problem after all, he died without seeing the lockdown, and we will die before we see the world go to shit too. Life moves on, so why shut the economies which keep life open? SAME SHIT DIFFERENT DAY SAMSARA ROCKS BABY!

One of my best friends passed away a few years ago. There is a feature they used to turn his FB profile into an ongoing memoriam - when you go on there now the profile states "Remembering X".

Digital tombstone? We need to step away from the digital world and reconnect with real death and life. The digital world is sick too, it's not the answer to a perfect world. (No disrespect to your loss, I'm generalizing, I've lost best friends too, it sucks.)

 

[Ar¢tos]

It's really hard to get an account you don't have access to deleted.
I had a similar issue with a friend that died. It took ages to get the account removed, I had to email scans of my ID, his death certificate and ask other people that knew him to message Facebook asking for the account to be deleted (he had no living relatives left), and when they finally accepted.... They put in on a 60 day timer for deletion.

 

[Patrick S.]

I will put my Keepass password in my will.

 

[lock2k]

That's you ... I have friends who've passed. Including friends I've not seen in a long time (or never met in person) and I can get to know who they were to others.

I have family who've passed... And I can look at the words they said and the memories we had together. I can also ALWAYS find pictures on their pages that I never saw before ... Especially when I thought I had them all.

I'm sorry for your loss. I'm sorry for when anyone loses someone they love. But the way you handle it doesn't have to inform the way others handle it. We all grieve in our own ways.

I'd'dather have that memorial to remember who they were and what we were.

It's not a matter of grief at all. It's a matter of it being a social network for LIVE people. It's not a digital graveyard. I just think it's fucking creepy to see a dead person online. It wasn't meant to be like that.

I have a different approach to memories. They're in my head, I don't need to look at them online.

I have no problems with grief or dead people. In fact, one of my favorite places to hang out is the cemetery. I always visit the local cemetery in all cities I travel to. To me, they're way more peaceful than churches.. I have a very straightforward relationship with death. I just think that those memorials are tacky as fuck and I'd rather remove them. I look at social networks to see memes, not this shit.

Hell, I've seen dead people forwarding recent memes (at one specific time).

 

[Tesseract]

memories are meant to fade

right here, right now

 

[Jezbollah]

Digital tombstone? We need to step away from the digital world and reconnect with real death and life. The digital world is sick too, it's not the answer to a perfect world. (No disrespect to your loss, I'm generalizing, I've lost best friends too, it sucks.)

Don't worry, I understand the perspective it is kind of weird, but if it allows people who might not be able to pay tributes physically, it helps in that way I suppose. On my FB friends list I have quite a few contacts who have passed on, only this friend has had this done to his profile.

 

[King of Foxes]

It's not a matter of grief at all. It's a matter of it being a social network for LIVE people. It's not a digital graveyard. I just think it's fucking creepy to see a dead person online. It wasn't meant to be like that.

have a different approach to memories. They're in my head, I don't need to look at them online.I

I have no problems with grief or dead people. In fact, one of my favorite places to hang out is the cemetery. I always visit the local cemetery in all cities I travel to. To me, they're way more peaceful than churches.. I have a very straightforward relationship with death. I just think that those memorials are tacky as fuck and I'd rather remove them. I look at social networks to see memes, not this shit.

Hell, I've seen dead people forwarding recent memes (at one specific time).

Calm down there edgelord, there are more people in the world than yourself.

Its ok that facebook pages exist after some dies

 

[Doom85]

I think I'd be more creeped out if a dead person's Facebook account did get an update out of nowhere even if it was just to indicate they had passed. That's bordering on some Serial Experiments Lain shit right there.....

 

[Tesseract]

i like it because it keeps things real for people, dead is forever

 

[lock2k]

Calm down there edgelord, there are more people in the world than yourself.

Its ok that facebook pages exist after some dies

Edgelord? I just said I have a different approach to memory.

What the fuck. If you state an opinion you're an edgelord. This quarantine is making people sensitive.

Also.... what the fuck is wrong about liking cemeteries?

 

[lock2k]

I think I'd be more creeped out if a dead person's Facebook account did get an update out of nowhere even if it was just to indicate they had passed. That's bordering on some Serial Experiments Lain shit right there.....

You have a very good point.

 

[Patrick S.]

Also.... what the fuck is wrong about liking cemeteries?

A cementery is a place where dead people are buried and their loved ones go mourn and pay respect. It's not supposed to be a cool hangout for goth doushe-nozzles.

 

[lock2k]

A cementery is a place where dead people are buried and their loved ones go mourn and pay respect. It's not supposed to be a cool hangout for goth doushe-nozzles.

And who says I don't pay respect to my family while I'm there?

Also, I'm a fan of architecture and cemeteries have some cool-ass architecture. I can go there for whatever reason I want to.

 

[Tesseract]

A cementery is a place where dead people are buried and their loved ones go mourn and pay respect. It's not supposed to be a cool hangout for goth doushe-nozzles.

but it is tho, it is a cool place to hang

forever

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

Why does Facebook still exist?

Facebook doesn't magically know if somebody died. Unless that person changes their status...

Well, Facebook seems to know everything else about people, I wouldn't be surprised if they get deceased notifications too

 

[lock2k]

Why does Facebook still exist?



Well, Facebook seems to know everything else about people, I wouldn't be surprised if they get deceased notifications too

They probably do, but they don't bother taking an account out unless asked because it inflates their registered account numbers.

 

[Nester99]

How do you expect a 3rd party company to police this?

 

[TwoDurans]

Facebook doesn't count active users, it counts users. It also started to roll in Instagram users into the "Facebook family count" which includes alts, parody, and accounts for those who are no longer using the platform but didn't delete (see also dead, jail, dropped their laptop on the ground).

They'll never remove that last group because they'd take a hit in their numbers.

 

[highrider]

One of my army buddies that died still has a page. His sister keeps it open. This guy was a character and traveled the world extensively. It's actually really cool to see all the different people that knew him and reminisce. Although to be fair the guy was an unforgettable personality, maybe less worthwhile for some schlub lol.

 

[DeepEnigma]

The "intelligence agency" tool does have this setting.

 

[SpartanN92]

I have a dear friend from High School who passed away 6 months ago (he was 26) and every now and then I get "On this day" reminders of stuff I'd been tagged in with him over a decade and it makes me really happy to see that stuff.

His mom was able to get his page change to say deceased though.

 

[lock2k]

I have a dear friend from High School who passed away 6 months ago (he was 26) and every now and then I get "On this day" reminders of stuff I'd been tagged in with him over a decade and it makes me really happy to see that stuff.

His mom was able to get his page change to say deceased though.

This is better because it actually looks like a memorial and not like an active page.

 

[dagZ]

lmao use your brain, how would that site know she died?

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

You can just keep the account. There is nothing wrong keep it.

 

[Whitesnake]

Well it's not like her fuckin ghost is gonna log in and update her status, is it?

 

[Tesseract]

Well it's not like her fuckin ghost is gonna log in and update her status, is it?

 

[lock2k]

Well it's not like her fuckin ghost is gonna log in and update her status, is it?

They often do. (not ghosts, dumb relatives)

 

[Hideous Snake]

Because someone from the family needs to do that. Facebook won't know who's dead and who's still alive. Also if nobody got access to the account, I believe you can contact Facebook and tell them to shut it down.

 

[xrnzaaas]

The scary bit is that Facebook probably already knows about many dead accounts, but doesn't do anything about them until they get contacted by the family.

For me it's a non issue, even if the account status hasn't been changed you can find out about the person's death from the posts on their timeline.

 

[ManaByte]

A GAFFER D deamentia died 11 years ago. His family keeps his FB page open for friends to post messages on days like his birthday or the anniversary of his death. It's become a memorial page where people can post things, much like visiting his gravesite.