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[Miguel]

No clue.


Manual says it supports 1080(insert letter), 720(insert letter) and 480(insert letter). That help any?

 

[TheQueen'sOwn]

That's what I don't get... I think it's 720p (progressive)... but what's the difference between that and being able to display progressive scan? I'm clueless lol.

 

[Crazymoogle]

That's what I don't get... I think it's 720p (progressive)... but what's the difference between that and being able to display progressive scan? I'm clueless lol.

480p and 720p are Progressive Scan modes. There is no difference. (between progressive and progressive scan)

Some TVs force upscanning (usually to a choice of 540p or 1080i), so I suppose there is a small chance it has to upscan to 1080i on everything, but that seems kinda doubtful for a Sony unit.

 

[Marty Chinn]

Everything seems to be working great with the new TV. I've even had time to do some reasonable calibration as well. Here are some pics:

 

[Miguel]

High Definition Kreuk. :O

I've yet to get my digital cable. Should be ordered by mid september.

 

[EarthStormFire]

I would rather have the new Samsung HLP5086 for the price of the Grand WEGA.

Pics of the new Samsung.

 

[BoxKicker2Turbo]

You could always spend a few bucks on the Pelican super deluxe component video switch box, its got ya covered for PS2, GC and more. It would be a crime to miss out on the Cube's 480p beauty. Check out the link!
Pelican system selector at EB Games

 

[Doom_Bringer]

holy crap! Those pics are awesome! I hate my tv

 

[Marty Chinn]

I would rather have the new Samsung HLP5086 for the price of the Grand WEGA.

Pics of the new Samsung.

a) That Samsung is about $1000 more than the Sony Grand Wega
b) DLP still has the rainbow problem
c) DLP has potential motion sickness issues
d) I hate how you're stuck with that stand

 

[EarthStormFire]

a) That Samsung is about $1000 more than the Sony Grand Wega
b) DLP still has the rainbow problem
c) DLP has potential motion sickness issues
d) I hate how you're stuck with that stand

a) The samsung can be had for 3500 shipped, which is about the same price as the Grand WEGA.

b and c affect only a tiny minority of the people. The vast majority of people do not see rainbows and an even smaller number get sick from the TV.

LCD: You get dead pixels, with samsung DLP 1 stuck mirror = New TV if during warrenty period, you need many dead pixels before sony will do anything.

Blacks: The Blacks on the samsung is noticably better.

 

[Marty Chinn]

a) The samsung can be had for 3500 shipped, which is about the same price as the Grand WEGA.

b and c affect only a tiny minority of the people. The vast majority of people do not see rainbows and an even smaller number get sick from the TV.

LCD: You get dead pixels, with samsung DLP 1 stuck mirror = New TV if during warrenty period, you need many dead pixels before sony will do anything.

Blacks: The Blacks on the samsung is noticably better.

I got mine for $2500 shipped, again still a $1000 more than the Grand WEGA. I did see the rainbows a bit, and there's no way I wanted to risk spending that much money on a TV where my g/f could get sick from it. It just wasn't worth the risk. So far no dead pixels on my TV that I've noticed so far, which I'm greatful. The black level is a bit better on the DLP, but I wouldn't say it's a huge difference in quality. Trust me, I did my research on DLP and LCD Projection before I made my decision and the cons made it not a consideration. I spent like two months researching the TV, and the Sony Grand WEGA was the best purchase out of all those reasons.

 

[TheQueen'sOwn]

Well they had a sale... and I got the old model (the one in the pics above), 50", for $3400 CDN .

 

[Particle Physicist]

I would rather have the new Samsung HLP5086 for the price of the Grand WEGA.

Pics of the new Samsung.

the samsung is awesome.. i saw it in store and its colors are brilliant.. EDIT: actually, i saw a different Samsung tv.. dont remember which one it was, but the speakers were on the bottom.


my dad just bought a 60" Panasonic PT-60LCX63...

http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webap...60LCX63&surfModel=PT-60LCX63&ignoreRedirect=1

he got it for 2,000$ .. brand new. he's gonna try to sneak it in tomorrow morning. my mom is gonna have a fit, its going to be great! i just wish i was still living in florida so i could hook up my gaming systems to this badboy.

 

[teepo]

i have a samsung hlp6163 and their is no rainbows and no one has gotten motion sickness from watching the set.

 

[Marty Chinn]

i have a samsung hlp6163 and their is no rainbows and no one has gotten motion sickness from watching the set.

Just because you don't see them doesn't mean they don't exist. The rainbow issue is a widely known issue with DLP sets. Not everyone sees them. Be thankful that you can't. I know the motion sickness doesn't happen to most, but I sure as heck am not going to risk my g/f getting sick from watching TV when spending that kind of money.

 

[Cmdr. Solrak]

I WANT!!!!!

 

[EarthStormFire]

Less than 10% of population can see rainbows. So for most it is not an issue.

 

[TheQueen'sOwn]

I see them . (but not on my set )

 

[Hari]

If you don't know what the rainbow effect which DLP RPTVs suffer from watch the clip below.

ftp://ftp.extremetech.com/pub/extremetech/displays/SamsungHLN4365WRainbowClip.wmv

Same clip on a CRT RPTV.

ftp://ftp.extremetech.com/pub/extremetech/displays/SonyCRTNoRainbowsClip.wmv

For people that can see them then I can understand why they buy a different tech based HD display.

 

[Hari]

Oh and if you are happy with your HD Display (Plasma, LCD, RPTV, etc, etc.) then that is all that matters.

 

[Hari]

Off Topic:

Marty Chinn,

What arcade cab is it that you can just see in those pics that you posted?

 

[SaitoH]

If you don't know what the rainbow effect which DLP RPTVs suffer from watch the clip below.

ftp://ftp.extremetech.com/pub/extremetech/displays/SamsungHLN4365WRainbowClip.wmv

Same clip on a CRT RPTV.

ftp://ftp.extremetech.com/pub/extremetech/displays/SonyCRTNoRainbowsClip.wmv

For people that can see them then I can understand why they buy a different tech based HD display.

Wow, do I ever see the rainbow effect.

=_=;;

 

[Marty Chinn]

Off Topic:

Marty Chinn,

What arcade cab is it that you can just see in those pics that you posted?

That's my Japanese Capcom Impress arcade cabinet.

 

[Crazymoogle]

Wow, do I ever see the rainbow effect.

=_=;;

EVERYBODY sees the rainbow effect in the video - it's a simulation.

You really do have to go see the different TV types in action. LCD has problems of its own; namely pixel failure and ghosting. I'm hearing good things about ghosting problems getting better, but if you're the type of person who runs your monitor at 85hz, you're definitely at risk and should be checking out the TV in store.

 

[Marty Chinn]

EVERYBODY sees the rainbow effect in the video - it's a simulation.

You really do have to go see the different TV types in action. LCD has problems of its own; namely pixel failure and ghosting. I'm hearing good things about ghosting problems getting better, but if you're the type of person who runs your monitor at 85hz, you're definitely at risk and should be checking out the TV in store.

Ghosting shouldn't be a problem on LCD Projection as most of the time your refresh rate won't be above 60 hz.