Sony Rehires James Vanderbilt to Write Spider-Man 5 and 6

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Sony Rehires James Vanderbilt to Write Spider-Man 5 and 6
Web-heads young and old, rejoice. We'll be seeing a lot of our friendly, neighborhood Spider-Man on the big screen in the years to come. Now, as for the details of who, what, and when - the web thickens. Just as Sony is ready to launch Spider-Man 4 (set for a 2011 release) with Sam Raimi, Tobey Maguire, and Kirsten Dunst all on-board once again, they've hired a writer to start work on Spider-Man 5 and 6, according to Variety. James Vanderbilt, of The Losers and David Fincher's Zodiac, will write an over-arching storyline that will extend from the fifth movie into the sixth - which might mean both films could even be shot back-to-back.

There's no word yet on exactly what Vanderbilt's story arc will contain, or if Raimi or the original cast will return to reprise their roles. Now, Vanderbilt isn't new to the Spider-Man universe, as he wrote the first draft of Spider-Man 4. Many of his original ideas will be seen on-screen come 2011; Raimi and Vanderbilt failed to see eye-to-eye, so David Lindsay-Abaire was brought on to rewrite Vanderbilt, which then led to Gary Ross, who is rewriting the whole thing yet again. In fact, this interconnected storyline was supposed to be a part of 4 and 5, but that idea was scrapped as shooting back-to-back was apparently out of the question.

By forcing the fifth and sixth movies to be shot in succession, Sony is hoping to pump out more Spider-Man films more frequently. As the interim periods have extended from two years to three to four between each franchise installment, Sony hopes to capitalize on the web slinger as often as possible with Vanderbilt's help. But here's the real kicker. Should Raimi, Maguire, and Dunst not want to continue their established roles, Spider-Man 5 will be treated as "the blueprint for a franchise reboot." I know a lot of you are probably seething through clenched jaws and grinding your molars to dust - but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't smiling.
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Reboot PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
 
Fuck all these reboots that are happening just because they cocked it up the first time around.
 
Wes said:
Fuck all these reboots that are happening just because they cocked it up the first time around.
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But that's not at all the case here. It seems more like they just don't want to need to Keaton/Kilmer/Clooney all the principal players.
 
*sighs*

Listen. Don't get worked up. I'm going to tell you what this actually all means. Not many other websites will report this but instead opt for hysterical reaction. This however, is the real reason Sony are doing this.

Marvel owns the rights to the Spiderman IP. Sony do not. They only licence the character, which means that is Sony were to simply call it a day on the Spiderman films then the rights to Spiderman would revert back to Marvel and they could then start making their own Spiderman films with no involvement from Sony. So it's in Sony' best interests to effectively keep the rights indefinitely.

There will be no more Spiderman films from Raimi after the fourth. He's moved onto the Warcraft franchise. Everyone at Sony knows this. But as long as they spend development money on any potential Spiderman project the rights remain with them and don't revert back to Marvel.

This is one of the oldest tricks in the book. Fox pulled exactly the same trick early in the year with all their licensed Marvel properties such as Fantastic Four etc. Say they are developing new scripts with a view to reboot the franchises and then just keep doing this indefinitely until they are actually looking to remake the series in ten years plus.

Believe it or not the film rights to Dick Tracy are still with Warren Beatty. And the reason? Because he's been continually 'developing' a new Dick Tracy project.

Universal still own the film rights to Namor and Marvel can't wrestle them back because they are continually spending money developing the project.

Sneaky? Perhaps? Under hand? Maybe? Totally legal and an excepted practice? Yup.
 
Really was the worst deal Marvel could have possibly cut. I have no idea what their lawyers were thinking signing away properties for "indefinite" periods of time. Marvel's own efforts have been fantastic, and its a crying shame we'll never see an X-Men, Spiderman or Fantastic Four movie from their own studios.
 
Busty said:
*sighs*

Listen. Don't get worked up. I'm going to tell you what this actually all means. Not many other websites will report this but instead opt for hysterical reaction. This however, is the real reason Sony are doing this.

Marvel owns the rights to the Spiderman IP. Sony do not. They only licence the character, which means that is Sony were to simply call it a day on the Spiderman films then the rights to Spiderman would revert back to Marvel and they could then start making their own Spiderman films with no involvement from Sony. So it's in Sony' best interests to effectively keep the rights indefinitely.

There will be no more Spiderman films from Raimi after the fourth. He's moved onto the Warcraft franchise. Everyone at Sony knows this. But as long as they spend development money on any potential Spiderman project the rights remain with them and don't revert back to Marvel.

This is one of the oldest tricks in the book. Fox pulled exactly the same trick early in the year with all their licensed Marvel properties such as Fantastic Four etc. Say they are developing new scripts with a view to reboot the franchises and then just keep doing this indefinitely until they are actually looking to remake the series in ten years plus.

Believe it or not the film rights to Dick Tracy are still with Warren Beatty. And the reason? Because he's been continually 'developing' a new Dick Tracy project.

Universal still own the film rights to Namor and Marvel can't wrestle them back because they are continually spending money developing the project.

Sneaky? Perhaps? Under hand? Maybe? Totally legal and an excepted practice? Yup.
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More likely is that they will actually make Spider-Man 5 and 6 because the movies are guaranteed blockbusters and nobody really cares who is directing or starring in them. Spider-Man 3 was poorly directed (on purpose, strangely) and still managed to get 336 million and 900 overseas. There is Batman, there is Spider-Man, and then there is everyone else. Not to mention that they have said since the first one came out that they had plans to do six of them.

You do this developing thing when you have a toxic franchise. You NEVER want to lose rights or sell them off, otherwise you get nonsense like that Watchmen debacle. Spider-Man is one of the most successful franchises in movies. It's a guaranteed 300 million, and if Tobey or Sam gets replaced it won't effect the take by one dollar. We'll see these movies made and they'll all be out by 2015, in time for Jaws 12.
 
What Busty said. It's called smart execs and producers. Why relinquish a big product that is known to sell, for another company to pick it up and produce another movie - whether riding on the coat-tails of glory or otherwise, the average movie viewer doesn't care which company produced what.
 
Busty said:
*sighs*

Listen. Don't get worked up. I'm going to tell you what this actually all means. Not many other websites will report this but instead opt for hysterical reaction. This however, is the real reason Sony are doing this.

Marvel owns the rights to the Spiderman IP. Sony do not. They only licence the character, which means that is Sony were to simply call it a day on the Spiderman films then the rights to Spiderman would revert back to Marvel and they could then start making their own Spiderman films with no involvement from Sony. So it's in Sony' best interests to effectively keep the rights indefinitely.

There will be no more Spiderman films from Raimi after the fourth. He's moved onto the Warcraft franchise. Everyone at Sony knows this. But as long as they spend development money on any potential Spiderman project the rights remain with them and don't revert back to Marvel.

This is one of the oldest tricks in the book. Fox pulled exactly the same trick early in the year with all their licensed Marvel properties such as Fantastic Four etc. Say they are developing new scripts with a view to reboot the franchises and then just keep doing this indefinitely until they are actually looking to remake the series in ten years plus.

Believe it or not the film rights to Dick Tracy are still with Warren Beatty. And the reason? Because he's been continually 'developing' a new Dick Tracy project.

Universal still own the film rights to Namor and Marvel can't wrestle them back because they are continually spending money developing the project.

Sneaky? Perhaps? Under hand? Maybe? Totally legal and an excepted practice? Yup.
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This was apparently what Universal were doing to keep the Battlestar Galactica movie rights... but that's actually getting made now ;_;
 
SecretBonusPoint said:
Really was the worst deal Marvel could have possibly cut. I have no idea what their lawyers were thinking signing away properties for "indefinite" periods of time. Marvel's own efforts have been fantastic, and its a crying shame we'll never see an X-Men, Spiderman or Fantastic Four movie from their own studios.
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Sony & Fox acquired indefinite terms for Spiderman & X-Men, respectively, a long time ago before Marvel was a big player in movie industry.
 
they just need to stop calling them 'reboots'. A new actor as Spiderman isn't a reboot, its just like with batman. Any superhero/costumed movie should be able to survive replacing a main actor or two. It should definitely survive a new director.
 
radioheadrule83 said:
This was apparently what Universal were doing to keep the Battlestar Galactica movie rights... but that's actually getting made now ;_;
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:lol ...that's a good point. The only thing I can think happened there was Bryan Singer suddenly popping out of the wood work and expressing an interest to direct.

Frankly I'm really dubious that project will ever see the light of day. But we shall see.
 
I'm not seeing a problem with a reboot in this case. There's few things in film I hate more than to replace an actor yet have the movies go on like they're the same person.
 
canova said:
They need to reboot Spiderman 3. No. 3 is a mess of spider web

Spiderman 1 & 2 are fine as they are.
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This.


3 was a joke, and an insult to anyone that loved Venom (i.e. majority of Spider-Man fans).

Tim Burton should do it and make it dark as fuck :)
 
ZeroGravity said:
I'm not seeing a problem with a reboot in this case. There's few things in film I hate more than to replace an actor yet have the movies go on like they're the same person.
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Usually I agree with you, but goddamn I sighed a sigh of relief when I heard Katie Holmes was booted for TDK.

KennyLinder said:
This.


3 was a joke, and an insult to anyone that loved Venom (i.e. majority of Spider-Man fans).

Tim Burton should do it and make it dark as fuck :)
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Featuring Johnny Depp as Venom!
 
Marvel's Spider-Man deal with Sony is not indefinite. It has been said from the beginning that the deal gives Sony the rights to make six Spider-Man movies.
 
SecretBonusPoint said:
Really was the worst deal Marvel could have possibly cut. I have no idea what their lawyers were thinking signing away properties for "indefinite" periods of time. Marvel's own efforts have been fantastic, and its a crying shame we'll never see an X-Men, Spiderman or Fantastic Four movie from their own studios.
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You got to remember that at the time they inked these deals, Marvel was doing really badly and closing in on bankruptcy. These really successful movies are pretty much what saved them.
 
Arjen said:
WTF? Reboot? But..but..but..WTF?
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Gotta explain the nipples on the Spidey suit somehow.

ZeroGravity said:
I'm not seeing a problem with a reboot in this case. There's few things in film I hate more than to replace an actor yet have the movies go on like they're the same person.
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Personally, I'm sick of having to constantly watch origin stories of superheroes. (Which is what a reboot automatically amounts to.) Spidey 1 did it right, so just say a few years have passed or something, and move on from there.

Don't need or want Uncle Ben and Flash shambling about yet again.
 
Aaron Strife said:
What's the point of a Spider-man reboot?

Everyone knows how Spider-Man got his powers. Everyone knows who Uncle Ben is.
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Well, rebots don't have to start from the begin. They jsut sylistically change the film.

Which hopefully means we'll get a smart-ass Spider-Man, with quick quips that aren't cheesy as fuck.


They're gonna be cheesy as fuck, aren't they.
 
Freshmaker said:
Personally, I'm sick of having to constantly watch origin stories of superheroes. (Which is what a reboot automatically amounts to.) Spidey 1 did it right, so just say a few years have passed or something, and move on from there.

Don't need or want Uncle Ben and Flash shambling about yet again.
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A reboot doesn't mean they'll do the origin story again. Did you watch The Incredible Hulk? The opening credits flashed through Hulk's creation story and it started after Bruce Banner had already left the United States and was hiding from the government.
 
Freshmaker said:
Gotta explain the nipples on the Spidey suit somehow.


Personally, I'm sick of having to constantly watch origin stories of superheroes. (Which is what a reboot automatically amounts to.) Spidey 1 did it right, so just say a few years have passed or something, and move on from there.

Don't need or want Uncle Ben and Flash shambling about yet again.
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I though the Incredible Hulk reboot did this well. They basically told the origin story in the opening credits. That way they just jumped right into the action.

*edit* Beaten by Houston 3000.

The sad thing to me is, there are so many Marvel characters. To see many of them in one movie together (like we'll hopefully see in The Avengers) would be cool as fuck.

I imagine a meeting in the Baxter Building with Fantastic Four, Spiderman, Iron Man, Daredevil, Captain America, etc.. Playing out on film in front of my own eyes.
 
Houston3000 said:
A reboot doesn't mean they'll do the origin story again. Did you watch The Incredible Hulk? The opening credits flashed through Hulk's creation story and it started after Bruce Banner had already left the United States and was hiding from the government.
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They still felt obligated to show the origin story however.
 
I AM JOHN! said:
You got to remember that at the time they inked these deals, Marvel was doing really badly and closing in on bankruptcy. These really successful movies are pretty much what saved them.
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Oh I know that, they were in a really bad place at the time, but thats still no excuse for what they signed with Fox. So Sony can only make 6 movies, is that true? If so that should have been the case with all the others.

At least in the meantime Marvel can still output great cartoons like Spectacular Spiderman and Wolverine and the X-Men to fill the void left by the fucking appalling movie versions.
 
Wes said:
Fuck all these reboots that are happening just because they cocked it up the first time around.
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it's the natural progression of the sad and stupid neverending coporate comic formula finally spilling over to celluloid.

No need for new characters and ideas when you can slap a "new" coat of paint on that old turf and suckers will buy it. :/
 
You guys are stupid. This is just leading up for the big "DC vs. Marvel" movie where Parker will deliver a pizza to Bruce's house and then be forced to perform ass-to-ass with Deadpool by Professor X as Bats and Robin watch. It will be directed by James Cameron.
 
SanjuroTsubaki said:
You guys are stupid. This is just leading up for the big "DC vs. Marvel" movie where Parker will deliver a pizza to Bruce's house and then be forced to perform ass-to-ass with Deadpool by Professor X as Bats and Robin watch. It will be directed by James Cameron.
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But Professor X is paralyzed below the waist.
 
Kirsten Dunst is turning out to be the Margot Kidder of this generation.

She most certainly needs a reboot to the head.

I ain't too keen on Tobey Maguire anymore either.
 
Honestly, on second viewing I hating the first two movies (though not as much as the 3rd).

There were only a few good scenes in each, and all the drama was just plain annoying.
 
Busty said:
:lol ...that's a good point. The only thing I can think happened there was Bryan Singer suddenly popping out of the wood work and expressing an interest to direct.

Frankly I'm really dubious that project will ever see the light of day. But we shall see.
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Wait wait wait....Bryan Singer is directing a BattleStar Galactica movie???


Please...Nooooooo :(
 
SpeedingUptoStop said:
Well, rebots don't have to start from the begin. They jsut sylistically change the film.

Which hopefully means we'll get a smart-ass Spider-Man, with quick quips that aren't cheesy as fuck.


They're gonna be cheesy as fuck, aren't they.
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I just came.

Why didn't they do this to begin with? That's such a big part of Spider-Man's personality.
Damn it, Tobey, you take yourself so seriously.
 
Good I wanted a spidey reboot. 3 was awful and frankly I hate Mcguire a LOT. I never liked him as spidey but I enjoyed the first two movies ok, and that goes double for Dunst, she's HORRIBLE. So I say get a better spider-man, lighten it up a lot more and put a TRUE Goblin enemy. Call it amazing spider-man web of spider-man, etc.

Tobey's a joke actor, just look at the trailer for Brothers. :lol :lol
 
i don't think there will be venom in spiderman 4 since venom is getting its own movie (just like wolverine).

all i know about it is that sony doesn't want the actor from spiderman3, so there will be a change.
 
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