Sony to exit plasma TV business
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Plasma TVs are a fucking rip-off. Not only do they burn out after 4 or 5 years. There is a serious problem with burn-in with them. Only people that buy them are peeps with money to burn. LCD is much better, no burn in problems. No bulbs to have to replace(like projections) and can last 10 plus years.
AlphaSnake
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Sony plasmas are shit anyways.
Large LCD screens are a good 50-100% more expensive than equivalent plasmas, so there really is no effective substitute at the moment.
Sony was late to the party with plasma and they are not really competitive with Samsung, Phillips etc., so not really surprised to see them dropping.
Sony was late to the party with plasma and they are not really competitive with Samsung, Phillips etc., so not really surprised to see them dropping.
Only Plasma worth buying is a Pioneer.
This move by Sony isnt surprising. Their latest line of LCDs in Japan, the HVX series, are the first to really make Aquos look like crap. Stunning brightness, great design, XMB.... I am hopefully buying one this week - but 2000 plus USD on a TV is hard for me to swallow.
If you want to know why Sony is going LCD, look at the 42inch Qualia 005. OMFG the nicest LCD ever.
This move by Sony isnt surprising. Their latest line of LCDs in Japan, the HVX series, are the first to really make Aquos look like crap. Stunning brightness, great design, XMB.... I am hopefully buying one this week - but 2000 plus USD on a TV is hard for me to swallow.
If you want to know why Sony is going LCD, look at the 42inch Qualia 005. OMFG the nicest LCD ever.
Kleegamefan
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Sony just so happen to be developing CNT FEDs flat panels....they showed a 22-inch prototype @ CEATEC, I believe....
It's not a bad move considering that LCD is a more versatile screen technology and there's a lot of room for improvement but as it is right now LCDs make horrible TVs. Of course most people who buy flat panel TVs don't care about picture quality at all.
solarplexus
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Sony denies it plans to quit plasma TV market
By Nathan Layne, Reuters
TOKYO - Sony denied a newspaper report on Monday that it would quit the plasma television business and focus its efforts in the flat-screen TV market on liquid crystal display and rear-projection models, but analysts said it would make sense to pull out.
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/gear/entertainment/2004-12-20-sony-plasma_x.htm
By Nathan Layne, Reuters
TOKYO - Sony denied a newspaper report on Monday that it would quit the plasma television business and focus its efforts in the flat-screen TV market on liquid crystal display and rear-projection models, but analysts said it would make sense to pull out.
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/gear/entertainment/2004-12-20-sony-plasma_x.htm
Nick Laslett
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Hardknock said:
A lot of miss information in this post.
I have a Panasonic Plasma, which is just over 3 years old. It's primary use is for game playing. I have sufferred no burn-in and I expect to get another 5 years out of the panel.
Here are some of the games I have completed whilst using this screen:
Jak & Daxter
Jax II
Devil May Cry
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance
Pro Evolution Soccer 2
Pro Evolution Soccer 3
Onimusha 2
Timesplitters 2
Prince of Persia: Sands of Times
Soul Calibur 2
Two Towers
Return of the King
SSX3
Everything or Nothing
Burnout 2
All of these games have permanent on-screen furniture. You would think that if plasmas were prone to burn-in I would have suffered from some by now.
Ghost of Bill Gates
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Nick Laslett said:
I have this Panasonic model also. Great Display!
radioheadrule83
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Nick Laslett said:
I agree. We picked up our Samsung set recently, and it's great. The blacks are brighter than they would be on LCD, but the chromatic field is great, the viewing angle is as close to 180 as you can get, and we got 42 inches for about a third of the price of an LCD equivilent. Fully warrantied and life is guarunteed for at least 3 years - and it will have been paid for in 9 months on finance. A quarter of ir's lifetime, assuming it cops out even then. For the picture size and quality, unless you can afford big LCD or good digital projectors, there's no better deal for having an awesome entertainment center in your living room.
As for Sony's move on this - they won't get plasma sales in the meantime, but it's probably a good move for the future... don't really feel anything imparticular about the move really. My brand loyalty has been won elsewhere - so I don't buy Sony televisions or players anyway.
IYO. The latest generation has come on leaps and bounds. I have a philips 30pf9975 which is fantastic. Way better than my last CRT and IMO better than any Standard def plasma option (plasma was too big for me too)
Great HD resolution (1280x720), so good for HD and PC, great viewing angles, great fill factor (so you can watch close up without seeing the pixels). Only downer is contrast, but even that is a lot better than it was.
Some LCDs are still pretty poor, but the good ones are very much an alternative to plasma/CRT as a main TV. Sony and philips are the leaders right now. Sharp was, but lost it last gen by using low res panels. Their new ones look to put them back in the spotlight.
LCD owns the smaller screen sizes, say up to 40". Plasma currently owns large screen sizes. Thats the way its likely to stay until something else comes along and changes the playing field.
KeithFranklin
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My Panasonic 50" TH50PHD7UY arrives today 
Looks like mounting bracket wont arrive until tomorrow 
Will look fabulous above the fireplace.
Panasonic's consistently get the best reviews. Blowing away Sony's.
Burn in is way over blown and always has been. My 50" Hitachi rear-projection is nearly 15 years old now. Was told never play games on it. Have had NES to XBOX on it with not one problemt.
Plasma lifetime is now as good as CRT. Early models faded out. Some now have half life of 60,000 hours.
Plasma Buying Guide about lifespan
Looks like mounting bracket wont arrive until tomorrow Will look fabulous above the fireplace.
Panasonic's consistently get the best reviews. Blowing away Sony's.
Burn in is way over blown and always has been. My 50" Hitachi rear-projection is nearly 15 years old now. Was told never play games on it. Have had NES to XBOX on it with not one problemt.
Plasma lifetime is now as good as CRT. Early models faded out. Some now have half life of 60,000 hours.
Plasma Buying Guide about lifespan
radioheadrule83
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KeithFranklin said:My Panasonic 50" TH50PHD7UY arrives today
Will look fabulous above the fireplace.
Panasonic's consistently get the best reviews. Blowing away Sony's.
Does it get hot above the fireplace? We wanted to do this, but the temperature above it was just something we didn't wanna screw with...
we ended up moving stuff around and clearing a wall elsewhere of units, drawers etc to use just for the TV.
KeithFranklin
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Good choice KeithFranklin. That 50" Panasonic is an excellent choice i dont know how old it is but Panasonic have been increasing the resolutions of their plasma's lately.
Its not very quick at all. I play games for hours. It does depend on what plasma panel you use. Use a Pansonic and its actually very tough to have burn in despite having one of the strongest contras of the plasmas.
Some plasmas you need to be careful. Even channel logos could burn in for those! But then again you shouldnt buy those.
Pfucata said:
Its not very quick at all. I play games for hours. It does depend on what plasma panel you use. Use a Pansonic and its actually very tough to have burn in despite having one of the strongest contras of the plasmas.
Some plasmas you need to be careful. Even channel logos could burn in for those! But then again you shouldnt buy those.
Since I pay for electricity used I have lately been obsessed with how much watt my hardware at home uses.
Some examples from my home:
Xbox - 100 watt running, 20 watt in off mode.
Saturn - 25 watt running
C64 - ~20 watt
486 computer - 25 watt
P4 2.4 Ghz - 70 watt iddle
Broadband modem - 25 watt
Netgear wireless router - 20 watt
Sony 32 inch widescreen CRT - 100 watt
Looking at manufacturers homepages:
42 inch typical Plasma - ~350 watt
55 inch typical Plasma - ~550 watt
I'm glad someone exits the Plasma business I would buy an LCD today if I was going to buy a thin TV.
Some examples from my home:
Xbox - 100 watt running, 20 watt in off mode.
Saturn - 25 watt running
C64 - ~20 watt
486 computer - 25 watt
P4 2.4 Ghz - 70 watt iddle
Broadband modem - 25 watt
Netgear wireless router - 20 watt
Sony 32 inch widescreen CRT - 100 watt
Looking at manufacturers homepages:
42 inch typical Plasma - ~350 watt
55 inch typical Plasma - ~550 watt
I'm glad someone exits the Plasma business
I would buy an LCD today if I was going to buy a thin TV.Someone said that LCD's don't need to have a bulb replaced. After shopping for a 60 LCD this winter, snagged a Panasonic.... I was told by almost everyone that the bulb would need to be replaced after 4000 hours... and that it was a good idea to buy the service plan because it included free bulb replacements...
I am kinda wary about plopping down 3.5-4 K on a TV, so the service plan gives me peace of mind, but is the part about the bulb replacement true???
Please help?
I am kinda wary about plopping down 3.5-4 K on a TV, so the service plan gives me peace of mind, but is the part about the bulb replacement true???
Please help?
evilromero
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Nothing beats Tube though. And the way Samsung's upcoming Flat-Tube screens are coming along, there's less reason to go with Plasma or LCD.
Kingpen said:
Don't confuse projection LCD (what you're looking at) with direct view/flat panel LCD. Flat panel LCDs don't use bulbs, but for now they're limited in size to not much more than 45" inches, and those larger sizes are extremely expensive. Projection LCDs do use bulbs, and you will have to replace them eventually.
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