yodathesoda
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Hilarious to read the responses justifying this compared to if MS announced that it wasn't going forward with EA's service.
Sony's response to EA Access Subscription plan
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Scully Scully Scoo
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most people on here really dont know wtf is going on
CambriaRising
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Until they start tying exclusive DLC or Multiplayer privileges to it. Online Pass 2.0
Doctor_Thomas
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I completely agree with him.
EA have their own store on PC for selling games and look how that turned out.
what?
Tidus_Great
Banned
So basically
Sony " If anyones going to be making the money it's going to be us"
Sony " If anyones going to be making the money it's going to be us"
FranXico
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PSNow is a streaming service, it is very different from EA Access. The most directly comparable service is PS+. This is the service that EAA would be competing with on PSN.
Amentallica
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If by healthy you mean unhealthy, sure. Just because a lot of people flock to a service or do something in masses does not mean it's necessarily good. This is an example of a bad competitor that will eventually, and progressively, continue exploiting its customers through other avenues. We all get jacked in some way, but some do it more cautiously and less forcefully. This is why I can't agree with any type of competition being good, because a bad competitor could exploit people through the right (wrong?) service. Any competitor can set a precedent, good or bad, and you definitely do not want the latter, or the worst, being at the front of setting precedents.
isn't that the mentality of every for-profit business?
This is stupid. Does he know how many movie monthly subscription there is? netflix, hulu +, amazon prime, plus all major cable premium channels like hbo, showtime epix etc.
they all have exclusive movies/shows, so that's worst than every big movie studio having a subscription.
I think what he's trying to say is that it would be funny to see the responses if MS and Sony were reversed. So MS had rejected the deal.
Oh, the outrage that would that bring. Like when Sony put online multiplayer behind paywall. Oh, wait.
if the service provides enough value for money it doesn't matter
It's tricky but they could have come down with something along the lines of they just want a single place where people can get great free games regularly rather than requiring all their users to have ten different subscriptions going forward. It's probably closer to the truth in terms of how they're approaching the model. We need to protect consumers from even having a choice is pretty obviously gonna get shot down immediately.
eddfromtheriver
Banned
This to infinity... and this EA thingie might just lead there if it takes off, i hope it bombs terribly.
look at it this way...
Q: why are you excited about PS Now?
A: because i want to play PS3/2/1 games on my PS4...DUH!...
Q: why are you excited about EA Access?
A: because i want to play PS3/2/1 games on my PS4....wait....
you simply, dont get excited or want these two things for the same reason...
uhh...not really the same thing...you pay Netflix, or Hulu, or Amazon etc...and you get access to all sorts of movies...do you really want to pay a different subscription to each movie studio to watch their movies???
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_film_production_companies
premium cable is a completely different ball game...
- HBO owns Cinemax...so they dont really count as different...
- they get exclusive rights to show movies earlier than their broadcast network counterparts
- they often produce original content (The Sopranos, Band of Brothers, etc..) that costs a boat load of money...
- they basically offer commercial free entertainment (outside of ads for their own products)..
LiquidMetal14
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This has no place here. But the if MSFT did this!
I would imagine the response would be pretty similar
GoofsterStud
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You say that without knowing EA's terms to Sony. They could have been unreasonable. You also don't know the full terms of the service that were clearly stated behind closed doors, maybe it is the DRM that Sony went out of it's way to differentiate itself from. The public doesn't know much right now. It's to early to say what was the right decision. Used game retailers will be losing a lot on Xbox One EA titles, but have no loss for PS4. With Sony making a stand they give the "appearance" that selling the PS4 is sustainable to their business, but the Xbox One is not. Retailers are going to be less worried about otehr such services heading to the PS4 as a result, and more leery of the Xbox One.
There are a lot of factors involved, more unknown elements involved, and more.
You underestimate the purchasing power of the "common man." These are the same people who would buy Battlefield annually. The same people who goes nuts over a new "map." The same people who live and breathe Sims. Those alone will sustain this service. Those alone will be enough for EA to say "Yep, we got them by the balls." That is what is scary because they have done this before and the will do it again.
EA did not draft this Vault out of the goodness of their heart. They have their own interest lining it's gilded lily and it's terrifying if this becomes the norm for the gaming industry.
CambriaRising
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Just like micro-transactions, on the disc dlc, and always online DRM right?
No, cut it off at the knees. Its no wonder MS saw no issue with this. Just waiting for Ubisoft and the other publishers to announce their services.
When is that happening?
I certainly hope so.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
It would be the same. Concern trolls with some good discussion peppered in.
I understand that, I just think its possible that someone excited for both of those services would decide they couldn't afford both and act accordingly. Someone would lose money there
yodathesoda
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Yes, I'm sure the most popular response would be justifying the move as being in MS's best interest from a business perspective.
I agree with you. I don't have a problem with Sony Pictures selling access to their movies and Disney Anywhere offering Disney movies for phones and tablets.
I also don't have a problem with multiple services offering games on PC.
I have no idea what you're talking about...
are you saying thats the most popular response here? I don't see it that way. If anything I see the community pretty split on it, which I'd wager is the same it would be if the situation were reversed.
CambriaRising
Member
Bookmark my post. Its going to happen with EAA at some point.
Uno Venova
Banned
Smart man.
FranXico
Member
Not only was this bad PR, they actually gave MS the upper hand by allowing EA to give the Xbox much stronger support. Fans of EA games will look at Xbox as the "EA machine", when it could have become a non-factor by simply letting consumers decide.
This is my impression based on the assumption that EA actually approached Sony as well (which is what the wording of Sony PR implies).
lets say EA Access gets to be on both PS4 and XB1. Do you guys really think thats going to stop EA from taking money from either Sony or Microsoft in exchange for exclusive content? Heck i wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft gets exclusive game or dlc only available on their EA sub and then youll have people questioning "But im paying the same as they are for their service, why cant i get the same treatment?"
SmoothRunningGun
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Then don't subscribe. Not offering it under the guise of it being a bad deal is wrong.
Quadraphonic
Member
But you can get just one and do alright.
They're competing services. EA Access is the same as a movie studio ONLY doing it.
IE:
Netflix for Paramount, Netflix for HBO, Netflix for Universal, Netflix for Disney, Netflix for Dreamworks. ZERO Overlap.
As opposed to the current situation when there is no content exclusive to platforms. Right. "But I'm paying for the same game!"
The common man is free to buy games the traditional way. That said, I think it is perfectly reasonable to subscribe to one or two publisher's subscription services and still have the option to drop $5 for a one month sub to another publisher's library and try those games out.
I mean, nothing is stopping me from having both PS Plus and Gold and still participating in Humble Bundles for PC. Options...yay!
SmokedMeat
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What's good for the industry isn't always what's good for the consumer.
Do you want a future of paying the hardware maker for a subscription service, and then paying additional subs to individual publishers? Doesn't sound great to me, but it's going to be interesting to see where this all leads.
Telling their 12 million plus FIFA players that online is going behind a paywall will be an absolute disaster for EA.
You can bookmark this post too.
Ummm... most movie studios have a hand in that dichotomy of fragmented television.
KratosEnergyDrink
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Sony pouts ;-)
Spottiettiedop
Member
So how do these retailers feel about PSNow? That is a bigger threat than the EA Vault right?
here is another choice, you can get down from that high horse of ..superiority you are galloping.
CambriaRising
Member
They already did it with online passes.
Exactly.
They'll also look pretty damn silly if EA Access turns out to be successful and in 6 months they announce it's coming to the PS4.
I can understand them wanting to protect their services, however they should have come up with a better excuse for rejecting this.
Scully Scully Scoo
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how would they be competing against ps+? u still need to pay for ps+ to play multiplayer, who would cancel their ps+ subscription just so they can play singleplayer madden/fifa/bf? u still ned ps+ subscription to play online
LingeringRegime
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Yeah EA has screwed me over so many times so I wouldn't be interested in the service if it was available.
This is how I feel. If it's Sony it's obvious it was a good move by Sony and we are all stupid for not knowing the deal. If it was ms it would be ms being closed minded about xbox once again and taking choice from the consumer there deffo feels to be a double standard on here. Hopefully it changes soon if Sony makes more decisions for us. I just want it to be level
a lot of people don't care about multiplayer
Options yay indeed. So, it has never crossed your mind on how they're going to market this Vault to the common man? I can already see it. Exclusive Guns/Maps for Vault subscribers. The prospect of where the service can lead to is scary. It is a big "unknown" and I don't like it that people are just jumping in YOLO-ing as if there's no catch to this "Awesome Value."
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