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Spider-Man: more reasons why manga is f*cked up.

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nomoment

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Figures such as Brian Bendis, JMS and Mark Millar have received recent criticism for writing for the age group who actually read and buy superhero comics, rather than for the age group who are meant to read them. Books like "Wanted," "Supreme Power," "Powers" and "Alias" were explicit with these themes, but "Amazing Spider-Man," "Marvel Knights Spider-Man" and "Ultimate Spider-Man" have all contained themes and story aspects that could never have been considered in an earlier age. From its outset, Spider-Man was a superhero comic that had more social realism than its peers, but current storylines have gone far beyond that. And, as a result, have alienated a certain group who demand that such titles return to their original audience base, even if that base has changed. And see the decline in the direct market as a result of the jettison of this perceived audience.

However, these fans may want to appreciate the devil they know.

Marvel licensed the character of Spider-Man to a Japanese publisher, who creates a thick volume manga version which, for a while, was translated back into English for the US market.

The following images are from the copy of Spider-Man featured above.

*****IMAGES REMOVED*****

In these scenes, the character Yu is trying to study, but is... distracted. He begins to masturbate and has a fantasy of chasing his girlfriend Rumi along the beach and tearing off her clothes - which scares him.

In a previous volume, Yu as Spider-Man saves a girl who was molested by a gang, who resembles Rumi closely, but who denied she was Rumi when asked. This is also a reprint from a while back, as well...

Is this the shape of things to come? Or a lesson that fans should be grateful for what they've got?

Marvel did not respond to questions made over the weekend, concerning this topic.

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Yu is the japanese Peter Parker analogue. I'm assuming Rumi is Mary Jane.

For fear of bannage, I cannot link to the article and/or scenes in quesiton.
 

nomoment

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Matlock said:
At least tell us what news site you got this from. :p
This article was quoted from the latest edition of Lying in the Gutters.

That should answer any questions that need to get answered without violating any forum rules.
 

borghe

Loves the Greater Toronto Area
lying in the gutters is Rich Johnston's coilumn at www.comicbookresources.com and is a legitimate column on a legitimate comic book site. I also won't post any links but you can get to the column from there.

I actually enjoy comicbookresources as my main copmic editorial site.. though still prefer newsarama for news.
 
Welcome to like - 1996 Nomo. Marvel tried publishing that stuff here.

And, as a result, have alienated a certain group who demand that such titles return to their original audience base, even if that base has changed. And see the decline in the direct market as a result of the jettison of this perceived audience.

However, these fans may want to appreciate the devil they know.

Spiderman wouldn't have these problems if he were creator owned, and there were an end in sight.

Instead, Spiderman will have to be continually re-invented and this re-invention justified by the idiot fans who just can't accept that it's time to move on.

Peter Parker needs to age, supporting characters need to die and stay dead; and at the end of the day he has to hang up his tights - and not in some fucking What If? title.

Like they say, some things never change:

Corporate Comics and their fans. :lol
 

Lyte Edge

All I got for the Vernal Equinox was this stupid tag
IIRC one of the guys that the did the Spider-Man manga in question is the same guy that drew CRYING FREEMAN and SANCTUARY. Expect rape, sex, and titties if it's by him. :p

And isn't the Spider-Man manga from the 70s or early 80s? The art certainly looked that way.
 
Something Ikegami

This was early on in his career, so it's got a bit of a Tezuka flair to it.

Not at all like Strain / Sanctuary.

"Felicia! I can't get the webbing off of my face. The only way to get rid of it. . . is for you to pee on my face." - Spiderman by Kazuo Koike :lol
 

Belfast

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Don't see anything wrong with it, it just takes it to the next level. I mean, Spider-Man's always been the epitome of a nerd. What nerd doesn't beat off to hot girls he knows that he has a hard time getting? Its dealing with his sexual frustration. It might be over the top, but is it that out of line with the Peter Parker archetype? Its just something they were probably too scared to touch before.
 
Most likely it's due to most American comic heros not having genitals, or reproductive organs to speak of. :p

You get some spheres for tittays, and that's as close as you get to reproductive organs. :p
 

karasu

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That doesn't offend me. They probably told great stories. Surely he didnt masturbate or fantasize about ripping some girls clothes off against her will in every issue. I'm more offended by dead characters constantly reappearing.
 

nomoment

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The Take Out Bandit said:
Welcome to like - 1996 Nomo. Marvel tried publishing that stuff here.
Wasn't that a different Spider-Man manga? I remember reading the first few issues of a goddawful Spider-Man manga published in floppies in 96/97, and there definitely wasn't anything explicit in them.
 
You expect Marvel to localize that content? :lol

Come on dude. I'm pretty sure they only published a limited segment of it before ultimately shit canning it. Yeah, 31 issues according to Mile High.

Still - this is an issue that's been touched on, and swept under the rug immediately by the powers that be. Look at Black Cat - total psycho stalker slut when she first appeared. Imagine where that could have gone if we didn't have to play with the kid's gloves on? :p

Now I'm not implying that Spidey turn into a total porn book, but you know damn well that if a piece of tail like that was coming on to you:

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