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can't wait to see this movie...

over at Chud today they also had an interview posted with Kirsten Dunst for those interested

 

[karasu]

They could create someone new. Fuck a Rogues Gallery. Another pissed off old scientist would suck, been there done that. Same with Goblin Jr, wrap that shit up in this movie please. Venom i just too big of a story to do in one movie. Drastic changes would have to be made.

 

[Killbin]

Are you crazy? Mysterio is awesome. If not Venom, then Mysterio. He fits perfect in a movie with special-effects. 3 big movies with only two villains (yeah, I know. Green Goblin - Hobgoblin). Come on....
And don't talk crap about the shocker, if you're a real Spiderman fan. I am one and I have nothing against THE LIZARD, because he is a good chara in the spiderman universe. But the GOBLIN/HOBGOBLIN as the villain in Spiderman 1 + 3 is bullshit and very lame!

If not Venom....

....CARNAGE (I would love it)

...or THE SHOCKER

...MYSTERIO would be the best idea!

To put the GREEN GOBLIN as the main villain in the first Spiderman movie was a bad idea imo He's ....a little bit unspectacular/lame

To see a similar villain in Spiderman 3 would be crap

...as the LIZARD

But at the end, we're going to see an awesome movie. Spiderman IS the greatest hero in the Marvel Universe IMO since I was a child!!

 

[Willco]

They could create someone new. Fuck a Rogues Gallery. Another pissed off old scientist would suck, been there done that. Same with Goblin Jr, wrap that shit up in this movie please. Venom i just too big of a story to do in one movie. Drastic changes would have to be made.

Doc Conners was never a pissed off, old scientist. His story is pretty cool actually, as it's more Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde than OMG I AM ANGRY GOBLIN BOMBS GO.

 

[Willco]

IAWTP.

I know I'm in the minority here when I say this, but I wouldn't mind seeing Hydroman at some point. I think it would be cool to see a liquified villain on screen. There are a lot of effects they could do with that. Obviously he couldn't carry his own movie so you would have to pair him up with someone. The Shocker seems like an obvious choice, imo since water and electricity don't mix (could be an easy way to kill them both). But I still don't think it that would make a good movie.

That's the problem with a lot of Spidey villains. Very few of them could carry a movie. I think Venom would be the obvious choice for a 4th film with Venom & Carnage in the 5th (and last one).

So who could carry Spiderman 3? Either Kingping & GG2 (so we can see the Harry/Kingpin dynamic) or Mysterio. Yes.... I believe that Mysterio could carry a movie... but it's obvious they are going with GG2. They might be able to cover the symbiote suit story in part 3 as well (up to the part with Peter getting rid of it).

No. Raimi is doing his arc and wrapping it up with Spider-Man 3. I mean, it'll be open ended because Spidey is still around, but it's not going to lead into any sequels. And that's because after Spidey 3, we're going to get a whole new cast and crew. That'll be scary.

 

[Bob White]

"What about me you fucking bastards?!"

 

[karasu]

Doc Conners was never a pissed off, old scientist. His story is pretty cool actually, as it's more Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde than OMG I AM ANGRY GOBLIN BOMBS GO.

Yeah but we've already been there with the Hulk, and Van helsing, and that crap with Sean Connery. Enough with the mindless rampaging. Mysterio would be cool though. I forgot about him. Heck maybe even The Sandman.

 

[Bob White]

No. Raimi is doing his arc and wrapping it up with Spider-Man 3. I mean, it'll be open ended because Spidey is still around, but it's not going to lead into any sequels. And that's because after Spidey 3, we're going to get a whole new cast and crew. That'll be scary.

Just give me a symbiote trilogy with these throughout the flicks: spidey finding the suit, vemon getting it, their fights, then carnage somewhere in the last of the three movies, and a new cast and crew wont matter.

 

[Killbin]

"What about me you fucking bastards?!"

I don't think he would be a good villain in a MOVIE because.... he looks too funny imo. I don't know. He does not scare me. VENOM does or CARNAGE.

Yes, even the SANDMAN would be better then the HOBGOBLIN.

But hey, MYSTERIO would be the best idea.

 

[Willco]

Yeah but we've already been there with the Hulk, and Van helsing, and that crap with Sean Connery. Enough with the mindless rampaging. Mysterio would be cool though. I forgot about him. Heck maybe even The Sandman.

Haha, Mysterio is probably the least respected villain in the comic books. That is the worst Spidey villain next to the Shocker. Mysterio's only decent story wasn't even in a Spider-Man comic book, it was in Daredevil for Christ's sake.

There aren't a lot of Spidey rogues that are decent and filmable after The Lizard. Probably Venom, Chameleon and Scorpion. Carnage is just trash. The Vulture, Shocker, Kraven, Hydroman, etc. can't carry a film. They'd make decent fodder for a movie intro, but not much more. They've never really poised a real thread in Peter Parker's life (maybe with the exception of Kraven).

 

[Killbin]

Venom can carry a film.
Mysterio, The Shocker, ....
But hey, we got some scientists in the Spiderman universe. Let us clone some Goblins and we can start a GOBLIN WAR ....oh dear!

 

[Willco]

Venom can carry a film.

Yeah, there's no doubt to this. Venom could probably carry more than one film.

When Raimi and Co. leave after Spidey 3, I really am not sure if I'll care enough to follow up on the exploits of the amazing Spider-Man. I really don't want to see someone run the character into the ground.

 

[ohamsie]

HAHA, what kind of pose is that?

 

[Willco]

HAHA, what kind of pose is that?

The OH SHIT I LOST MY GRIP ON MY WEBBING pose.

 

[Killbin]

Yeah, there's no doubt to this. Venom could probably carry more than one film.

When Raimi and Co. leave after Spidey 3, I really am not sure if I'll care enough to follow up on the exploits of the amazing Spider-Man. I really don't want to see someone run the character into the ground.

Crap! Toby M. isn't god. There are much better actors out there. But first of all, let us watch Spiderman 2 + 3.

 

[DopeyFish]

Doctor Octopus, Venom and Carnage are by far the best enemies in the spider-man universe.

 

[Future Trunks]

It'd be cool if Raimi could somehow do a Sinister Six thing. Oh, well. I'm sure whatever he chooses to do for Spidey 3 will be great anyway.

 

[Willco]

Crap! Toby M. isn't god. There are much better actors out there. But first of all, let us watch Spiderman 2 + 3.

I'm not talking about Toby Maguire. We're talking no Bill Pope, Sam Raimi, John Dykstra, etc. A lot of people that made these movies what they are.

Knowing Hollywood, the next batch of Spider-Man movies will be helmed by McG and Joel Silver, with Ashton Kutcher as Peter Paker and Lindsay Lohan as Mary Jane.

 

[Willco]

Doctor Octopus, Venom and Carnage are by far the best enemies in the spider-man universe.

Carnage is just a rehash of Venom. Pass.

Green Goblin gets on that list easily, because he's the only one to have actually ruined Peter's life. He killed his first girlfriend, man.

And - hey! - a Spider-Man reference on a repeat of Friends. Awesome.

 

[DopeyFish]

Carnage is just a rehash of Venom. Pass.

which is why carnage is one of the best.

The villains in the spider-man universe go from "omg awesome" to the kinds of enemies you see in christian comic books. (except Ghost Rider)

:s

 

[Willco]

which is why carnage is one of the best.

The villains in the spider-man universe go from "omg awesome" to the kinds of enemies you see in christian comic books. (except Ghost Rider)

:s

Haha, yeah, he doesn't have the best rogue gallery, but he has the next best. Batman, by far, has the best villains. Then Spider-Man.

 

[Prince of Space]

Venom can carry a film much better than the Lizard could. The Lizard's a damn cool adversary, with a nice Jekyll/Hyde story, but a two hour film with him alone would just get boring.

Venom COULD be introduced in the next film, and integrated quite well, if they went with the "symbiote-comes-with-space-shuttle" story from the 90s cartoon. In capable hands - something this film would no doubt be in - it could work.

 

[Killbin]

Venom can carry a film much better than the Lizard could. The Lizard's a damn cool adversary, with a nice Jekyll/Hyde story, but a two hour film with alone would just get boring.

Venom COULD be introduced in the next film, and integrated quite well, if they went with the "symbiote-comes-with-space-shuttle" story the 90s cartoon. In capable hands - something this film would no doubt be in - it could work.

IAWTP

Doctor Octopus, Venom and Carnage are by far the best enemies in the spider-man universe.

Don't forget MYSTERIO and SHOCKER. And I'm talking about villains in movies. Lizard + Hobgoblin = lame

 

[Bob White]

Fuck it all, someone just make a movie where batman finds the symbiote, then I'll be happy.

 

[Willco]

Venom can carry a film much better than the Lizard could. The Lizard's a damn cool adversary, with a nice Jekyll/Hyde story, but a two hour film with him alone would just get boring.

That's why he's not the only villain in Spidey 3. Nobody reads, eh?

Venom COULD be introduced in the next film, and integrated quite well, if they went with the "symbiote-comes-with-space-shuttle" story from the 90s cartoon. In capable hands - something this film would no doubt be in - it could work.

No, it could not. The way Spidey 2 ends and the fact Raimi wants to wrap his arc with Spidey 3 makes introducing Venom an impossibility. Even if that wasn't the case, you couldn't make a Venom movie with two hours. It could not work. Ever.

The cartoon had lots of episodes for that Venom arc. You've got to introduce Eddie Brock, ruin Eddie Brock, you got to get the suit, have Spidey wear the suit, Spidey fights in the black suit (but it's evil), Spidey eventually rejects the suit, the suit joins Brock, the suit becomes Venom and hunts down Spidey.

You people should never make movies.

 

[Willco]

IAWTP


Don't forget MYSTERIO and SHOCKER. And I'm talking about villains in movies. Lizard + Hobgoblin = lame

Haha, Mysterio and Shocker are way lamer than either of those villains. One wears a fishbowl and is the laughingstock of the entire comic book industry. The other is a dumb crook with a vibrator. What Spidey comics did you read?

 

[nomoment]

How to do a Venom story without too much continuity, and some major retconing?

1. John Jameson goes to space.
2. John Jameson comes back from space, turns into Man-Wolf.
3. Man-Wolf bites Spider-Man.
4. Weird stuff Jameson acquires from space is transferred from bite to Spidey's skin/bloodstream.
5. Weird stuff becomes symbiote.
6. Brock writes expose about weird Jameson stuff... gets infected!
7. Spidey rejects symbiote with the help of Curt Connors.
8. Spidey tries to save Brock from symbiote, cue Spidey vs Venom fight!

And the rest is history...

 

[Willco]

How to do a Venom story without too much continuity, and some major retconing?

1. John Jameson goes to space.
2. John Jameson comes back from space, turns into Man-Wolf.
3. Man-Wolf bites Spider-Man.
4. Weird stuff Jameson acquires from space is transferred from bite to Spidey's skin/bloodstream.
5. Weird stuff becomes symbiote.
6. Brock writes expose about weird Jameson stuff... gets infected!
7. Spidey rejects symbiote with the help of Curt Connors.
8. Spidey tries to save Brock from symbiote, cue Spidey vs Venom fight!

And the rest is history...

I'd drop the Man-Wolf stuff and do the cartoon storyline. Man-Wolf is kind of lame.

 

[nomoment]

I'd drop the Man-Wolf stuff and do the cartoon storyline. Man-Wolf is kind of lame.

BITE YOUR TONGUE!

Man-Wolf is the mutha-fuckin' bomb.

 

[Willco]

BITE YOUR TONGUE!

Man-Wolf is the mutha-fuckin' bomb.

He goes to space and becomes Man-Wolf? That is pretty geeky, man.

 

[nomoment]

He goes to space and becomes Man-Wolf? That is pretty geeky, man.

They could do the moon pendant storyline, like in the comics. Or, even better... they get bombarded by weird space rays while playing golf on the moon...

Either way, you get a freebie (cool) villain!

 

[Willco]

There's a couple of problems that fake storyline, though. That's a dumb way to get infected! They should just use the reasoning for the cartoon. The space rock bullshit.

Also, that storyline fails to explain why Brock hates Peter Parker and/or Spider-Man.

 

[nomoment]

There's a couple of problems that fake storyline, though. That's a dumb way to get infected! They should just use the reasoning for the cartoon. The space rock bullshit.

Also, that storyline fails to explain why Brock hates Peter Parker and/or Spider-Man.

I just need time for refinement... I came up with this in less than 3 minutes!

And to be honest, I think 75% of my plot outline subconciously seeped in from the cartoon. I didn't even remember the cartoon Venom storyline until you mentioned it a few posts ago. Bloody hell.

 

[Guzim]

You got the next Spider-Man movie right here!

 

[DopeyFish]

Don't forget MYSTERIO and SHOCKER. And I'm talking about villains in movies. Lizard + Hobgoblin = lame

Mysterio was a sissy. Shocker looks too funny.

Mysterio would be cool if he made him not to be sissy. Sure he looks cool with the fishbowl on his head... BUT HE'S A SISSY.

 

[Willco]

Mysterio was a sissy. Shocker looks too funny.

Mysterio would be cool if he made him not to be sissy. Sure he looks cool with the fishbowl on his head... BUT HE'S A SISSY.

Yeah, really. The only decent Mysterio arc was when he tortured Matt Murdock aka Daredevil because he could never do it to Spider-Man and settled for the second best thing. What a loser.

 

[Killbin]

Haha, Mysterio and Shocker are way lamer than either of those villains. One wears a fishbowl and is the laughingstock of the entire comic book industry. The other is a dumb crook with a vibrator. What Spidey comics did you read?

Ok, now I get it. You're not a big SPIDERMAN fan, you're a jerk.
Talking bullshit like that about MYSTERIO and SHOCKER is lame....
Go and read your comics, dude. It's all over for you!

 

[DopeyFish]

The venom story line should be reworked into this:

Some dude goes to space, finds rock floating near earth (or got jammed in a satellite). Government thinks there is some value in this rock/substance, possibly for explosives. Terrorists try to steal the substance (which is locked up in a radioactive briefcase). Spidey attempts to foil them but before he could nail them, the brief case opens and spidey is exposed to the substance. After which, the puddle sneaks away and eventually forms Venom (which of course has some likeness to spider-man)

see? I just mainstreamified the venom plot

 

[Killbin]

The venom story line should be reworked into this:

Some dude goes to space, finds rock floating near earth (or got jammed in a satellite). Government thinks there is some value in this rock/substance, possibly for explosives. Terrorists try to steal the substance (which is locked up in a radioactive briefcase). Spidey attempts to foil them but before he could nail them, the brief case opens and spidey is exposed to the substance. After which, the puddle sneaks away and eventually forms Venom (which of course has some likeness to spider-man)

see? I just mainstreamified the venom plot

*rofl*

 

[evil ways]

The venom story line should be reworked into this:

Some dude goes to space, finds rock floating near earth (or got jammed in a satellite). Government thinks there is some value in this rock/substance, possibly for explosives. Terrorists try to steal the substance (which is locked up in a radioactive briefcase). Spidey attempts to foil them but before he could nail them, the brief case opens and spidey is exposed to the substance. After which, the puddle sneaks away and eventually forms Venom (which of course has some likeness to spider-man)

see? I just mainstreamified the venom plot

I believe this news.

 

[DJ Demon J]

Lindsay Lohan as Mary Jane.

I'D BUY THAT FOR A DOLLAR!