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Standard Definition TV Gamers...

I'm waiting for prices and technology to stabilize, which should take a few years at least. If I end up buying something that's HD-capable, it'll be a dual-use PC monitor. I don't see myself getting into the next generation of consoles any time soon, so I have no reason to spend money on something in place of or in addition to my current solution (480i RGB monitors).
 
Right now I'm commuting to college and as such, I use my family's HDTV. Once I finish college and perhaps a year of university afterward (so 3-4 years) I'll get a nice one for myself. By that time, I expect HD standards will have been set, HD movies will be coming out in full-swing, and an excellent quality TV should be relatively affordable.

In the meantime, I bought myself a great SDTV about half a year ago (upgrading from my old one which didn't even have S-Video,) which I am liking a lot.
 
Danj said:
HD services haven't even gotten started over here in the UK, and the situation is the same for most of the rest of Europe. It'd be kind of odd to have to have one TV for gaming and another TV for actually watching TV on.

I only meant the US. I'm a filthy American. :(
 
Unless my current TV breaks down before it, I'll upgrade once the digital broadcasts replace the analog ones here (2007).
 
Sometime next summer, I think; having played my Xbox 360 on a HDTV convinced me it's pretty awesome, and my parent's HDTV isn't that great. Of course, that all depends on money situations, and it's altogether likely I'll end up putting the purchase off until Christmas. We'll see, though...I'm hoping I can spend something like $1000 and get a decent sized HDTV by then.
 
I'd end up waiting and maybe spending $200-300 max on a TV (in the high 20's/low 30's inch range). Having a lot of channels would be an absolute requirement for it though.
 
i just bought a fairly cheap 720p lcd. it handles 360 games beautifully, and i'm guessing most ps3 games will be 720p too. if something radically better comes along in the next several years, i didn't spend so much that i can't upgrade.
 
In a year or so I think I'll be able to pick up a 32"-34" for about 900 $, just in time for the PS3 (Europeland) and Revolution (importing)... might import the PS3 if it has any worthwhile games at launch.

I'm looking forward to it :)
 
The thing is i wont. I play my games on a secondary 19" tv. And our main tv is just used for tv because my mom doesn't like wires. So even if i get one it will go in the main living room, an i wont even have that unless one of my older tvs break down.
 
No telling where I will be in five years...but right now there is no way I can justify the insane price just for some better resolution. Count me out until prices are reasonable.
 
Bud said:
We bought an extremely good sony crt 72cm, it's really great. But seeing MGS4 makes me want to buy an HDTV when the game comes out or around that time.

Does anyone have numbers/statistics on how fast/slow HDTV prices area going down? That would be much appreciated.

At the local Media Markt they have a X360 booth with the Samusung HDTV and the games (PGR3 for instance) look extremely good. Very clean and sharp. I am ready for HDTV...in a couple of years :)

I've seen some reports of flat panel prices falling 30% over the past year. Here's an article that discusses pricing somewhat.


Boston Globe said:
Prices have steadily fallen on HDTV models
By Keith Reed Boston Globe Staff

Should you or shouldn't you this holiday season?

New brands, deep discounts, and increased production are pushing prices of high-definition television sets even lower this year. Consider: Circuit City is offering a 42-inch Samsung plasma for $2,700, slashing $800 off the regular price, and Best Buy is peddling newcomer Maxent's 42-inch, HD-ready plasma for $1,800. And last month, Fujitsu of America rolled out rebates of $500 or $1,000 on each purchase of its high-end plasma models.

''There's more players in the market, there's more display technologies, and if you look at most of the manufacturers' lines, we're seeing less standard definition and a lot more high definition being produced," said Joni Blecher, an analyst at technology and consumer research firm Jupiter Research in New York.

Since HDTV technology hit the mass market in the late 1990s, the average cost -- especially for lightweight, flat-panel models -- has fallen by several thousands of dollars. Last year, the average sale price of HDTV sets dropped to $1,416.90, nearly 11 percent less than in 2003 and 55 percent cheaper than in 1998, according to Consumer Electronics Association, an Arlington, Va., trade group. Analysts say HDTV prices have continued to decrease considerably this year.

Twelve percent of American households had at least one high-definition television at the end of last year, but that is projected to double to more than a quarter of US homes by the end of 2006, according to Jupiter's latest report on the topic. Much of the growth, the report said, will be fueled falling prices.

And prices don't have to go that low for people to take the HDTV plunge. Among consumers who plan to buy a high-definition set in the next 12 months, the largest chunk -- 42 percent -- said their budget for the purchase was between $1,001 and $2,500, according to Jupiter data. Twenty-two percent planned to spend between $500 and $1,000, and only 4 percent planned to spend more than $5,000.

No wonder HDTVs will account for more than 70 percent of television sales by 2010 the study estimated.

Another reason: Congress intends to shut off traditional analog signals in 2009, forcing broadcasters to transmit in a digital format. HDTV is by far the clearest and most popular of digital standards.

The current demand for HDTV has also been fueled by the housing boom. Consumers who bought or remodeled their homes have been adding big televisions and surround-sound systems to create a movie theater experience at home.

So is HDTV worth it? Analysts say high-definition technology has the potential to revolutionize TV viewing the way that color did decades ago. ''High definition" refers to a television set that uses any of four different display technologies -- plasma, liquid crystal display, projection, and direct-view cathode ray tube (CRT). These technologies deliver a digital picture that is stunningly sharper than standard definition analog TVs.

Plasma sets tend to have the largest screens -- generally between 40 and 60 inches -- but are also so lightweight and thin that they can be mounted on a wall. They are also generally the most expensive of all HDTVs, typically more than $2,000 per model. LCD televisions are also light and thin, but they come in smaller screen sizes -- usually between 20 and 32 inches -- with many of the smallest models priced at less than $1,000.

Projection and CRT sets are both bulky and take up considerable space. CRTs generally have screens of between 13 and 36 inches and cost well under $1,000. Projection sets have screens of 42 inches or larger and start at about $1,000.

The demand for HDTV has attracted little-known brand names into a market traditionally dominated by such names Sony Corp. and Sharp Electronics Corp. Maxent calls itself an affordable line of LCD and plasma TVs, and it is owned by Regent USA of City of Industry, Calif. Insignia is Best Buy's in-house brand.

But the mix of new brands, more models, and a dizzying array of sizes and technologies can muddy the waters for shoppers. Just because a TV is light and thin, it doesn't mean it's an HDTV.

Consider EDTV -- ''enhanced-definition television" -- which provides better resolution than a standard definition TV but is not as sharp as HDTV.

Beyond that, there is a difference between a high-definition television set and one that is HD-ready. The latter requires an external video source such as a high-definition cable or satellite hookup, or a separate tuner that can cost hundreds, to display a high-definition picture.

''HDTV sets are available for well under $1,000; the issue is that a lot of people are associating high definition with new display technologies, like plasma and LCD, and those are expensive technologies," said Ross Rubin, director of industry analysis at the NPD Group, a Port Washington, N.Y., research firm.

Rubin said that $1,000 remains an emotional barrier for some consumers who desire the style and sharp pictures of a slim HDTV but have never spent more than a few hundred dollars for televisions.

'' 'Cheap' is a relative term," said Rubin. ''Most people today have chunky, big CRTs in their home, but if they want to get a more stylish device, you're going to pay a premium for that."

http://www.boston.com/business/glob...it_time_to_buy_that_50_inch_plasma_tv/?page=2
 
My 11-year old 32" Hitachi tube TV recently kicked the bucket, and I've been looking at replacing it. I've gone into many stores and viewed many different TV's, both SD and HD, and most of the time the standard signals shown on the HDTV's are shit.

I have to make the right choice, but I also don't want to spend too much money. I was looking at a 32" Sanyo Tube SD with Component and 16:9 mode at Wal-Mart for $300CDN. I'm just not too sure about the Sanyo namebrand and if it is quality. The 42" Sony A10 looks really nice too, but it's just too costly.
 
When they get to around the price of a similar sized SD model, I'll go for one. Right now I'm all about the VGA cable and a large but cheap monitor. Not to mention the HD arena still hasn't gotten its act together yet. Somebody needs to man up and die like Betamax so we can have some sort of standard damn it.
 
Spike said:
My 11-year old 32" Hitachi tube TV recently kicked the bucket, and I've been looking at replacing it. I've gone into many stores and viewed many different TV's, both SD and HD, and most of the time the standard signals shown on the HDTV's are shit.

I have to make the right choice, but I also don't want to spend too much money. I was looking at a 32" Sanyo Tube SD with Component and 16:9 mode at Wal-Mart for $300CDN. I'm just not too sure about the Sanyo namebrand and if it is quality. The 42" Sony A10 looks really nice too, but it's just too costly.


I think if you'll check, Sanyo has an excellent warranty track record because Walmart essentially underwrites the Sanyo-branded TV's that they sell in their stores.
 
I'll be picking up one after I get my tax return

Just a modest 16:9 30" inch CRT one for around $700-800

Also be buying an X360 and component cables for my Gamecube and DVD Player
 
Forgotten Ancient said:
Boy, I must be seeing the wrong half of sports. That's precisely what I'm talking about when I say SDTV looks bad on an HDTV. I watched almost every game in last year's NBA Playoffs...but, I believe outside of TNT (or maybe it was TNT/TBS) everything was still broadcast in standard. It looked like complete ass.

Also, FoxSportsDetroit doesn't do High-Def broadcasts yet - unless I'm missing something. It's almost painful to see the Redwings & Pistons like that. Maybe I'm just in a shitty market, but until it's resolved, I stand behind my original post. I don't get comments like yours trying to debase others reasoning.

I was not trying to be a jerk, or trivialize your reasoning. Sorry if it came out that way. I am just saying that a LOT of programming is in HD now.

I am pretty fortunate. My local cable provider has all 4 major networks in HD, Discovery, PBS, ESPN, and TNT. There are a lot of HD sports to go around, but not much baseball because of what you said- Fox Sports Ohio has no HD feed.
 
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