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Star Trek (January 2017 TV Series) News and Speculation Thread of Boldly Streaming

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I like this.

Although I guess honestly maybe we shoulda seen it coming when we knew Fuller's original pitch was set in that era, and the first hire was the guy who MADE that era golden.
 
Could be set in the Enterprise-C era, right before it's destruction. Hopefully we'll get episodes post-Romulus too. Love to see how that and the Dominion War played out.
 

Fuchsdh

Member
RUMOR: The new Star Trek series will be an anthology series set in multiple time periods, with the first season set after Star Trek VI but before Next Gen

This seems like a great idea, really. Allows them a lot of freedom to try new things. Plus the return of the TOS movie outfits!

Yay—

Could be set in the Enterprise-C era, right before it's destruction. Hopefully we'll get episodes post-Romulus too. Love to see how that and the Dominion War played out.

Booo! "Let's just remove the turtlenecks from the uniforms!" :p

An anthology series could certainly be interesting. I wonder if it's a smart choice from an economic perspective, though. A lot harder to suck in people or get new fans if you don't establish the universe for newcomers. Definitely would help explain Meyer's involvement, I can't imagine him liking a 24th century or later setting for his aesthetic.
 
Yay—



Booo! "Let's just remove the turtlenecks from the uniforms!" :p

An anthology series could certainly be interesting. I wonder if it's a smart choice from an economic perspective, though. A lot harder to suck in people or get new fans if you don't establish the universe for newcomers.

The Canon Dictators are going to have field day with this.
 

eJawa

would probably like a hook in his jaw for that matter
Anthology would mean they could maybe bring back some original actors, since they won't be required for multiple seasons. The downside would be me being disappointed when each season is not announced as a DS9 sequel...
 

TheXbox

Member
Not a bad idea, but this probably means we should expect multi-year gaps between seasons. The turnaround for a new cast/new sets/new era must be significant, even if they retain most of the production crew.
 
A seasonal anthology does sound interesting but I guess I need a lot more info on that, how long are the seasons? The typical length of previous seasons for previous shows? Shorter?

Lots of potential with a seasonal anthology and I think the Star Trek franchise can be a natural fit for that, like exploring the various crews/ships, their mission, which can be wildly different from another ship/crew's mission, station, etc. At least that's what I'd expect of doing an anthology for ST.

Any ways these are just rumours, but I'm so excited to seeing hopefully Star Trek making a come back to television, it's all I want.
 
Sounds great but how are they going to have the budget to do this is they can't recycle sets and CG?

Use the same sets for the entirety of the show, just replace the LCARS displays with every passing season.

Season 1 (late-TMP era)
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Season 2 (early-TNG era, presumably)
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It's how they did it whenever they needed to show an older ship's interior on the 90's shows, just redress and move around an existing set, slap some old decals on it, and in the end, you've got something surprisingly believable.
 
Not a bad idea, but this probably means we should expect multi-year gaps between seasons. The turnaround for a new cast/new sets/new era must be significant, even if they retain most of the production crew.
Assuming we get more than one season. I don't expect anything more with the show being a stupid ass CBS streaming exclusive instead of being a Netflix or Hulu collaboration.


Also, I hope they update the aesthetics to match what the future would look like from our perspective. LCARS is hilarious in retrospect and shit like the now outdated future of Past Tense is just cringeworthy.
 

Fuchsdh

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Assuming we get more than one season. I don't expect anything more with the show being a stupid ass CBS streaming exclusive instead of being a Netflix or Hulu collaboration.


Also, I hope they update the aesthetics to match what the future would look like from our perspective. LCARS is hilarious in retrospect and shit like the now outdated future of Past Tense is just cringeworthy.

It's actually aged quite well, given how interfaces are trending towards the simple flat aesthetic and minimalist interface elements. Now the occasional 3D animation or flat visualization they showed *alongside* those elements? Yeah, those stick out as looking like a kid's powerpoint.
 

butalala

Member
An anthology show makes sense to some extent, as that's become rather de rigueur (Fargo, True Detective, Amercian Horror, etc.) and it could allow the producers to attract bigger names to cast and create greater appeal that way.

However, placing the series in such a continuity-heavy place doesn't make sense to me. Why would casual viewers care about the forgotten times between TOS and TNG? Unless Fuller has something up his sleeve, I'm not buying that part of the rumor.
 

FoneBone

Member
It was confirmed to not be in that months ago, wasn't it?
No. The original press release said it was "not connected to" the next movie, but that's pretty vague.

I like the season-anthology idea, but I'm not sure I like setting it before the TNG era. That's a lot of continuity to write around.
 

ahoyhoy

Unconfirmed Member
Anthology sounds great. Would be awesome to follow a different crew operating in a different part of the galaxy every season.

I hope this show stays low budget if only to avoid the temptation to spend tons on pointless action and half baked CGI.
 

Currygan

at last, for christ's sake
ew, anthology and Star Trek, I don't think they both go along well

then again a new Trek show in today's landscape is extremely risky, so that could be one of the things saving it from premature death. Still, not sure if I like it
 
Voyager already killed the best idea. I wish they could remake that where a ship was lost in an unknown region of space. The premise was amazing. The execution...less so.
 

cntr

Banned
Anthrology could work if they don't rely too much on canon. Like, everything important happens to the main characters in each show, it'd be nice to dispel that by showing other people having their own adventures.

There's only a few major events you must add to a show, like the Dominion War, and that's not too hard to establish.
return of deep space hype!!
 
I like the idea. You could do some really interesting stuff with it. Maybe they could tie all the time periods together with an omnipotent alien character or something.
 

Pluto

Member
Sounds like an awful idea.
The idea itself isn't bad, it really depends on the execution, an anthology has several advantages.

1. It raises the stakes, we always knew the Enterprise wouldn't fail and get blown up in the season finale and there was alyways the expectation that the crew would live until the series finale, the occasional main character leaving doesn't change that.

2. Knowing exactly how many episodes they have to tell a story is a great advantage, the writers won't have to cut a planned five season arc short if the show fails and they don't have to leave doors open for a possible continuation. They don't have to,alter plans due to actors becoming unaivailable or characters becoming popular and everyone demanding more screentime for them.

3. They can tell stories that wouldn't be sustainable for a long running series, like an outpost defending itself during a war. That could be a great 13 episode series but would never work for seven seasons.

4. It would attract bigger names which in turn would bring more publicity to the show. Kirsten Dunst wouldn't have signed on to do Fargo for example if they had offered her a five year contract.


But what I don't want this to become is a fanwank series that ties into events seen before and no matter what happens, no season about klingons!
 

8bit

Knows the Score
This sounds pretty good tbh, just hoping it doesn't turn out to be some sort of Section 31 bollocks tying it together between seasons though.
 

Boem

Member
Time for me to ask a question you're probably all tired of hearing: I never really got into Star Trek, and I was wondering if the show might be for me. My brother used to watch it a lot when we were younger so I caught bits and pieces, but I really know next to nothing about what makes Trek interesting. To my younger eyes it always seemed kind of dry and boring (not trying to be a dick, just saying that my younger self didn't have an attention span).

I love sci-fi, and I love stuff like the Expanse or lighter stuff like Doctor Who or parts of Star Wars (yes, I know those are completely different). I think I have some old DVD's of, I think, the first original series back at my parent's home. It being old isn't an obstacle to me - I love the charm of that, and I could watch all of 60s Doctor Who without a problem, for example. My problem these days is more that I don't have the time to invest in a giant series like this unless I know it's going to be worth it. Are there parts of the show that are easily better than others, parts that should be avoided at all costs, and do you miss out on stuff if you just skip a lot of it?

I know that perhaps I should just wait for the new series to see if it's going to be for me. I already watched all of classic Doctor Who, and part of me is saying that one extremely long, extremely nerdy tv series is enough for one lifetime. Especially when there is so much else to watch.
 
Except for the genocide.

And there is always just one Dr (that we see anyway).

Actually we do see nurses in all shows but Enterprise.
TOS had Nurse Chapel, TNG had Nurse Ogawa (among others, like one-off Tarses in Drumhead) and mentioned several other doctors beyond Crusher such as Dr. Selar, Voyager had Kes and Tom Paris helping out here and there, DS9 had Nurse Jabara. And all shows but Voyager also had extras in the background.
Only Enterprise solely had Phlox.
 

Cipherr

Member
New sci fi series? Fucking finally. Lord knows that Netflix one probably ain't ever happening. Keeps getting fucking delayed. There's been a huge draught for years now except for like Dark Matter.
 
Time for me to ask a question you're probably all tired of hearing: I never really got into Star Trek, and I was wondering if the show might be for me. My brother used to watch it a lot when we were younger so I caught bits and pieces, but I really know next to nothing about what makes Trek interesting. To my younger eyes it always seemed kind of dry and boring (not trying to be a dick, just saying that my younger self didn't have an attention span).

I love sci-fi, and I love stuff like the Expanse or lighter stuff like Doctor Who or parts of Star Wars (yes, I know those are completely different). I think I have some old DVD's of, I think, the first original series back at my parent's home. It being old isn't an obstacle to me - I love the charm of that, and I could watch all of 60s Doctor Who without a problem, for example. My problem these days is more that I don't have the time to invest in a giant series like this unless I know it's going to be worth it. Are there parts of the show that are easily better than others, parts that should be avoided at all costs, and do you miss out on stuff if you just skip a lot of it?

I know that perhaps I should just wait for the new series to see if it's going to be for me. I already watched all of classic Doctor Who, and part of me is saying that one extremely long, extremely nerdy tv series is enough for one lifetime. Especially when there is so much else to watch.

Recently I made a list of good/important/interesting episodes for The Next Generation and Deep Space Nine for a friend who was interested in getting into the shows. If you like, I can give them to you. That list still is fairly large however, and does not include TOS, Voyager or Enterprise (though I could probably draft one up for Voyager...). Alternatively, I can give you a handful of really outstanding episodes for each to let you investigate if you like the shows.
Obviously not all of the episodes after those would be as good, but you know.

Also of course this would all be just my opinion. :p
 

Boem

Member
Recently I made a list of good/important/interesting episodes for The Next Generation and Deep Space Nine for a friend who was interested in getting into the shows. If you like, I can give them to you. That list still is fairly large however, and does not include TOS, Voyager or Enterprise (though I could probably draft one up for Voyager...). Alternatively, I can give you a handful of really outstanding episodes for each to let you investigate if you like the shows.
Obviously not all of the episodes after those would be as good, but you know.

Also of course this would all be just my opinion. :p

Sure, I'd love to!

What's a good starter show? Next Generation?
 
Sure, I'd love to!

What's a good starter show? Next Generation?

Full list or "if you have to watch only 3 or so episodes, watch this" list? :p

I think The Next Generation is a good show to start, yeah. You always can go back to the original series if you like TNG.
 

Boem

Member
Full list or "if you have to watch only 3 or so episodes, watch this" list? :p

I think The Next Generation is a good show to start, yeah. You always can go back to the original series if you like TNG.

Let's do the 3 episodes thing - if I like it enough I'll move on to the rest. Thanks man!
 

cntr

Banned
The Original Series and The Next Generation are good introduction shows, yeah. TOS is the classic frontier exploration story, while TNG is more..."relaxing", I guess.

Deep Space 9 is the series most different from the mold, being about a space station, and concerning a long-running story. But that also means it's the show with the best developed characters and species, villain and hero alike. It's the most divisive show in the series, but if you like it, you'll really like it.

Enterprise and Voyager are not recommended for a first view.

Both TNG and DS9 take a while to get going (season 3 and season 2, respectively), but TOS is good from the start.
 
Let's do the 3 episodes thing - if I like it enough I'll move on to the rest. Thanks man!

Alright, here's my pick for TNG:
Season 2 Episode 9: The Measure of a Man
Season 3 Episode 13: Deja Q
Season 5 Episode 2: Darmok
Season 5 Episode 25: The Inner Light
Season 6 Episode 15: Tapestry

And for DS9:
Season 1 Episode 19: Duet
Season 2 Episodes 1-3 (it's a 3-parter): The Homecoming, The Circle and The Siege
Season 4 Episode 8: Little Green Men
Season 6 Episode 19: In the Pale Moonlight

all imo of course
And yes I cheated a bit with the number, but hey.
 

Boem

Member
The Original Series and The Next Generation are good introduction shows, yeah. TOS is the classic frontier exploration story, while TNG is more..."relaxing", I guess.

Deep Space 9 is the series most different from the mold, being about a space station, and concerning a long-running story. But that also means it's the show with the best developed characters and species, villain and hero alike. It's the most divisive show in the series, but if you like it, you'll really like it.

Enterprise and Voyager are not recommended for a first view.

Both TNG and DS9 take a while to get going (season 3 and season 2, respectively), but TOS is good from the start.

Alright, here's my pick for TNG:
Season 2 Episode 9: The Measure of a Man
Season 5 Episode 2: Darmok
Season 5 Episode 25: The Inner Light

And for DS9:
Season 1 Episode 19: Duet
Season 2 Episodes 1-3 (it's a 3-parter): The Homecoming, The Circle and The Siege
Season 6 Episode 19: In the Pale Moonlight

all imo of course

Thanks both of you! I'll give it a look this weekend.
 

cntr

Banned
I wouldn't recommend In the Pale Moonlight for an intro -- it works better once you've gotten used to Sisko and the setting, plus it contains some huge spoilers better revealed gradually.

My suggestions for DS9 are:
Emissary (Season 1, episodes 1/2)
Duet (Season 1, episode 19)
Necessary Evil (Season 2, episode 8)
 
In the Pale Moonlight was my first DS9 episode I ever watched. It was the foundation of my love, and I still watch it every few months. Seeing it first did not harm my opinion of the show in the slightest, quite the contrary.
But yeah if you want to avoid big spoilers I guess?
 

Pluto

Member
Let's do the 3 episodes thing - if I like it enough I'll move on to the rest. Thanks man!
I'm going to make some recommendations too, I tried to find a mix of episodes, some are dialog heavy bottle shows, some have more action, some have more sci-fi premises (other than being set in space) and some go into an almost comedic direction.


TOS:
Season 1, episode 14: Balance of Terror
Season 1, episode 28: The City on the Edge of Forever
Season 2, episode 04: Mirror, Mirror

TNG:
Season 2, episode 09: The Measure of a Man
Season 3, episode 15: Yesterday's Enterprise
Season 6, episodes 10/11: Chain of Command

DS9:
Season 1, episode 19: Duet
Season 2, episode 14: Whispers
Season 5, episode 06: Trials and Tribble-ations

VOY:
Season 2, episode 21: Deadlock
Season 5, episode 12: Bride of Chaotica
Season 5, episode 22: Someone to Watch Over Me

ENT:
Season 3, episode 10: Similitude
Season 4, episode 17: Bound
Season 4, episodes 18/19: In a Mirror, Darkly
 
IF they do an anthology I'd really like them to do a season or even just a couple of episodes focussing on Section 31. It's something they haven't done before and it would certainly give us another perspective on the Federation.
Maybe even set it during the Dominion War or something.

A season set on and around a colony at the edge of explored space could be interesting as well as well.

Maybe something with characters from farr of into the future. We know there are time traveling historians so maybe a season following the adventures of a group of time travelers observing important events from Federation history?

Point is, I'd really like them to do go all out with it and go of the beaten path. I think it has a lot of potential.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DaystromInstitute/wiki/algernonguide_ds9 this is a good DS9 episode guide

...but to be honest, overall, DS9 has the most amount of watchable eps.

Ayy, it's the only Trek where I don't skip any episodes during my yearly rewatch.
 

HUELEN10

Member
Any anthology Star Trek is ruined when you consider that now that there is a series that could do, we will STILL never see a live-action Coutdown due to Nemoy's death.


:(
 

Cheebo

Banned
Any anthology Star Trek is ruined when you consider that now that there is a series that could do, we will STILL never see a live-action Coutdown due to Nemoy's death.


:(
They would never adapt a tie-in comic that was written only to advertise Star Trek 09 regardless if Nimoy died or not.

Your obsession with it is quite baffling. It was just a tie in comic, something a lot of films get.
 

Enthus

Member
They would never adapt a tie-in comic that was written only to advertise Star Trek 09 regardless if Nimoy died or not.

Your obsession with it is quite baffling. It was just a tie in comic, something a lot of films like this get.

It wasn't even very good, either.
 

HUELEN10

Member
They would never adapt a tie-in comic that was written only to advertise Star Trek 09 regardless if Nimoy died or not.

Your obsession with it is quite baffling. It was just a tie in comic, something a lot of films get.

It's not just a tie-in comic.


It is the first half of the most emotional and (in my eyes) greatest Star Trek story of all time. I re-read the whole thing an hour before I watched XI in a theatre.

It was incredible, and I will never forget it.
 
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