Watched it all the way through. Accurate commentary and a weird sense of humor. Great video and it's very sad to see that screening and them knowing it's crap.
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Watched it all the way through. Accurate commentary and a weird sense of humor. Great video and it's very sad to see that screening and them knowing it's crap.
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My guess is they land the previous night, as seen in the trailer, and things don't go well. I'm pretty sure he's an actual Storm Trooper, which is a big shift from Lucas' "serial" approach where those are all faceless cannon fodders. Abrams will probably even used that to show us that Luke is well known for having blown up the first Death Star and how everything is not so clear cut in people's minds about who is good and bad.
I think that would in fact be a big part of the story anyway, blurring the lines a little between anything that represents the good or bad guys.
That's fine and all, but faith brings out just as much (if not more) arrogance than science.
DiipuSurotu
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lifa-cobex
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I thought Luke just nicked him on the shoulder a bit.
Too busy trying to get away.
That or maybe Vader's armor WAS protecting him to a degree.
Game changer.
Then why haven't people sliced off lightsaber handles when it was just a single blade to begin with? The size of the hilt openings are about the same anyway: pretty damn small.
brandonh83
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Tell me about it. But in the context of this story and the fact that only a few characters were involved in this faith, I don't really think that applies.
You should watch his review from part 2 and 3 also.
here are 3 explanations for the saber construction material:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mandalorian_iron
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Phrik
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Cortosis
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I wouldn't be surprised if we see Storm Troopers with light sabres like in the original McQuarrie artwork. It kind of looks like the cloaked dude's actually.
Maybe the empire has started to produce its own light sabres, albeit lower quality ones. If there really is some new bad dude on the empire's side who isn't a Sith, he'd probably have such a weapon.
If Boyega is going to be wielding a sabre, I doubt they'll be doing the whole training thing TWICE.
Maybe the empire has started to produce its own light sabres, albeit lower quality ones. If there really is some new bad dude on the empire's side who isn't a Sith, he'd probably have such a weapon.
If Boyega is going to be wielding a sabre, I doubt they'll be doing the whole training thing TWICE.
You know, I feel sort of a disconnect with how the plot of this movie is looking to head into. Because I've read a lot of the EU books, which have written Luke as reforming the Jedi academy, training a whole new generation of Jedi, then eventually getting married and having a son, and if the leaks are correct,
I'm too familiar with the former. To the people who haven't absorbed any EU, I envy you.
Luke will have been a recluse for 30 years since ROTJ.
Squall5042
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The last thing this movie/trilogy needs is tons of lightsabers
Warm Machine
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He brings up 3 salient points. 2 of which are actually fixed if scenes were cut back into the movie. The rest is whining.
Bitching about how the deal with Watto works isn't film criticism, it is not following the story or listening to the dialogue.
With the 3 prequels they needed to be created with a number of goal posts to be navigated. I'm sure if you wrote down every required link back in 97 you could guess about 25% of the prequel plotting.
Moving forward there are no goalposts at all to be concerned with. It is a wide open horizon and anything can be written in because nothing in the OT has any link to what comes after it.
You'll quickly forget the EU once we dive into the sequel trilogy era and the movies start coming.
Just pretend this is a divergent continuity like the Abrams Star Trek reboot.
Bobby Roberts
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That's really what this movie is. This is going to be for people who are tired of Star Wars, or turned off of it thanks to everything post 1997, or who never bought into it in the first place.
Much like Star Trek 09 wasn't really for classic Star Trek fans, but for people who would have liked Star Trek if it didn't have all that tired shit choking it to death.
It's going to be a hop-on point, basically. Star Wars fans will obviously hop-on much more easily than others, but the others are likely going to hop-on because regardless the trappings, it looks FUN and interesting, and there's just enough cultural currency being spent (everyone knows what a lightsaber is, everyone knows what the Millennium Falcon is) that there's a sense of familiarity for those who aren't familiar.
lifa-cobex
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This is funny considering being sexless monks worked for them for millenia and would have prevented Anakin's turn had he been more chaste and devoted to the order rather than his own desires.
Also funny is how you continually fail to address in all your stammering the fact that the guard wouldn't even work as a guard with the hilt unprotected.
And then you end your argument by saying Star Wars is above critical analysis and logical consistency. If that were true, the prequels would be substantially more beloved and we wouldn't have had people moaning over crap like midiclorians a page or two ago. Plenty of people bemoaned R2's rockets as well, by the way, but screw logical consistency, those people are just haters who can't successfully turn their brains off like you can.
Look. I'm not saying they can't come up with an explanation why there's suddenly a lightsaber with a cross guard. I'm saying, at this point in time, with the little we know, it posses a problematic contradiction with the movies that came before it. You can choose to ignore it, and I couldn't care less that that's what you're doing, but getting so ruffled over other people noticing this inconsistency is asinine. You might as well get mad at people for disliking midiclorians. There's no obvious answer as to why a sith or a jedi would suddenly need the utility of a cross guard when no force user has been shown to need one in the past. It's like putting a seatbelt on a bike. You can try to pull an argument out of your ass why a bike might have one but all evidence points to its inclusion being unnecessary.
And again, I feel I have to repeat myself over and over again with you so you can finally get it, I'm not saying they can't hamfist some reason in there. Maybe it really is just for aesthetics and not function, which would be fine since this thing wouldn't work as a saber crossguard anyway. Maybe it's a proto-type. Maybe the entire hilt is made of mandalorian iron. Maybe it's an old design that fell out of favor thousands of years ago because jedi obviously don't need guards that the character found or dug up or recreated. There's nothing wrong about being critical and adopting a wait and see approach. And like I said, one more time here for your sake, I don't give two shits if you don't care about logical consistency, enjoy star wars however you like, but there are plenty of people out there who are interested in their movies making sense. Calling people nerds and saying "who fucking cares" just because some might have the audacity to enjoy movies differently than you do is absurdly ludicrous.
SquiddyCracker
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That would make sense for a ghetto saber.
If it was used to block another lightsaber, all you would need to to is slide the saber towards the hilt and it's gone.
Can you force pull from someone who can force pull back?
SquiddyCracker
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That's explained away with both force-users having that power - so when they grab onto that lightsaber they use force power to keep it stuck to their hand.
Jedi's and Sith don't force pull/push each other in fights?
Gnome Scat
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v93Jh6JNBng
Not sure if posted yet, but this made my day. The Force Awakens gets the Lucas treatment.
Not sure if posted yet, but this made my day. The Force Awakens gets the Lucas treatment.
Ok, so force pull their pants.
Lightsaber fights are just one big game of hot potato.
Wouldn't the military equivalent of a lightsaber be a Viroblade? I think those would be more logical than troopers with lightsabers. They already have terrible aim so imagine them using a lightsaber.
Dictator93
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I actually find it painful that there are lightsabres at all, or that it relies on the originals' imagery and sound so much.
Or that they are making this at all.
Or that they are making this at all.
BattleMonkey
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Except for the 20 or so examples of Jedi hands getting chopped off at the wrist. If a saber hit it as in the example image above, the saber is going to cleave through the finds/hilt of the saber, not the wrist.
As for stabbing one self, how is that different from any lightsaber? hilt and cross guards are meant to protest the user as well from touching the blade which previous lightsabers never had. A slight slip while swinging and the user is touching the blade. A dual saber like mauls would be nearly useless and doesn't have a practical real world analog
Lightsabers never made sense, it's ridiculous people are attempting to apply logic now.
All the talk of canon...if anyone actually wanted to know what the entire on-screen canon is for Star Wars is this is the official complete list of on-screen canon.:
The Phantom Menace
Attack of the Clones
The Clone Wars
Revenge of the Sith
Rebels
A New Hope
The Empire Strikes Back
Return of the Jedi
The Force Awakens
I dunno do they? I thought they just threw stuff at each other.
Lol at jabba
lifa-cobex
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Just made my night
1. Leaving yourself open to being bisected from above before ever getting to their hand.
2. That assumes those ports aren't wrapped in cortosis or or made of Mandalorian steel.
Ape Gone Insane
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Except no Jedi got their hands chopped off in a way that the guard would have done jack shit.
BattleMonkey
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Also note, that cortosis, the material that is resistant to lightsabers is actually canon now, as it appeared in the recent Rebels novel which are now part of official continuity.
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Who would it have saved?
DiipuSurotu
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Nope.
It got shot out of the canon.
UnforgivenTwin
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Not anymore.
Liamario
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What is this then? Constipation after a bad galactic burrito?
That's an abomination.
Nope. As of May 2014 only the 6 films, The Clone Wars, and Rebels are canon. Everything new from that point on is canon.
You should be watching Rebels. That is telling the story of the origin of the Rebellion. And doing a great job of it.
NekoFever
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Bearing in mind you can probably count the lightsaber battles in all six movies on both hands. It's not like we have a wide selection of examples to judge from.
BattleMonkey
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Hands. None of the swings would have cut off the cross guards, the direction you would need to hit them at would cut the lightsaber hilt/hands. All examples shown have the user getting their hand chopped off at wrist or forearm. Which the crossguard could prevent.
The cross guard is not full proof, but people acting like it's useless are making huge assumptions. It's no different from body armor, it has a ton of openings and weak spots, but still protects users. Same applies to stuff like Boba Fetts armor and such, which leaves many vital body parts open. OMG SUCH STUPID DESIGN
Tertullian
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Fair enough. I was not trying to be dismissive about diversity concerns. I was really just mocking that one post.
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