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Star Wars The Force Awakens Trailer
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How dare you nitpick my nitpick. Only an imbecile would deign to do such a thing.
But really, it's stupid to call people stupid for not liking something from an aesthetic or design perspective. These are subjective impressions and plenty of people have echoed the reaction that at the very least from a visual perspective, the guard looks dumb. And if it did manage to block an attack to the wrist, the saber itself would still not be protected and extremely vulnerable. An actual real life guard doesn't have that vulnerability, which is why real life guards are functional and this is not. Using it as you would a real guard would put your saber at unnecessary risk. You never want your opponents saber anywhere near your hilt and the design of the guard doesn't do anything to mitigate that.
Okay that makes sense. Just seemed weird we were still doing the empire vs. rebel alliance thing.
Dat x wing shot looks dope though. Hoping for lots of low altitude dogfights.
Empire is still a major presence by all indications.
Did you just call the male lead of the movie "some black guy"?
People would find something to rage about. If it's not the lightsaber, then it's the fudgsicle speeder.
JetBlackPanda
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I disagree. The shot and sound was classic.
DiipuSurotu
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For all we know the Rebel Alliance is the new "empire" and the Stormtroopers are the rebel-like faction.
"Some black guy" being the lead of the movie
Sorcerer
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If you watch this part in a big 1080p res, you can see that he is looking/has his head down as he pulls out the saber. The way it is shot sort of seems to me that he doesn't see anything so much as he probably senses someone/something off screen and stops to defend himself/get ready for shit to go down.
Is it possible that their is a figure in the far distance between the two trees on the right side?
It seems to make a movement before the lightsaber is ignited but that is probably caused by the camera movement.
It is probably a tree but I can't see the top.
EDIT: SAW THE TREE ON IGN REWIND THEATER.
I thought there may have been another figure one of the left as well but I think its just another tree.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Can't wait for the movie, but not super knowledgeable about the films. Can someone tell me how we transitioned from Clones to non-clone storm troopers?
The fudgecycle is fine visually but the lighting reminds me too much of Abrams' Star Trek :-(
DrForester
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freenudemacusers
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i don't think we were ever not on the sword.
Almost like it's a teaser and not an actual trailer or something.
reminder this movie might actually have more to do with other things than a sword
debate me.
orthodoxy1095
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The thing that should mollify any concerns about this being a retread of old battlelines is that this is indeed 30 years later. We don't know who are really the "bad guys" now. We don't know what the power balance is. We don't know anything about the world setup. I think it should be pretty interesting, but I'm also familiar with the EU, so the idea isn't too outlandish for me. Hopefully the trailer doesn't seem like a mere retread to other people!
I think some of you are being unfair. Did Luke only appear in the first teasers for 3 seconds with a constipated look on his face? None of the characters in fact scream "lead!" because they're featured for mere seconds.
VisceralBowl
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That's cool.
The clone troopers were created as a secret army. Once the trade federation was demolished, they transitioned to normal transcripted soldiers.
did killing Bin Laden end the war on Terror?
would the Third Reich have dissolved if they had assassinated Hitler in 1942?
you kill off one Leader, a new one steps in.
there might be power struggles - if there's no clear successor to the emperor - but that still won't mean there won't be anyone
* using TIE fighters
* wearing storm trooper uniforms.
* using E 11 (like) blaster rifles
(which are the only facts we got. "empire" wasn't uttered a single time)
The Shogun
Banned
From all indications the Empire never fell, even after Palpatine and Vaders deaths.
Chezzymann
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Looks way more boring that way
Probably old, but I think that cloaked person in the trailer don't want this happen to him/her/whatever.
Light saber handles being cut is not anything new in the franchise....
If you want to put logic in lightsabers you are going to have bigger problems than this Longsword lightsaber =P
Not knowing he is the lead isn't an excuse for calling him "some black guy". Comments like that are uncalled for. Do you see daisy Ridley as some white girl?
No idea but it seems inevitable any large empire would eventually swell the ranks with those under its control.
DiipuSurotu
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I wonder if the Empire has a new name since there's no Emperor, or if there actually is a new Emperor who's not Palpatine.
Obviously I hit a sore spot, because never once did I attack or insult your person. Calm your tits. I don't agree with you. Move on.
I didn't call anyone stupid. I also don't agree that it looks dumb. Some of us thinks it looks cool. But I understand your argument.
The fact that the handle guard COULD protect the user from loosing his/her hand, I can definitely see Abrams/Kasdan having a line like:
"I see you lost your hand BOY"
There were also rumors about the opening shot involving
, so that sword design COULD make sense in if they want it to be more than form over function
"I see you lost your hand BOY"
There were also rumors about the opening shot involving
a severed hand holding a lightsaber floating in space
Would a paler skin color help in that regard?
Explain to me how it's not called for. I made a statement in regard to the teaser trailer. You're going to have to elaborate on why my comment, beyond just being misinformed was inappropriate.
Go ahead.
given the fact that Palpatine and Vader were seemingly the only remaining Sith.
(which i assume due to the fact that Order 66 was meant to eridicate all Jedi Knights; and with the Sith being notoriously backstabby he'd mostl likely have gotten rid of any Force user who might have ever endangered his position of power)
- it's highly unlikely that the remnants of the Empire are controlled by yet another Sith Lord.
Well, there were a few pages of complaining over the Droid as well.
Another choice of uniform or clothing would probably help, to be honest. He doesn't look like the lead of the film.
He looks like someone who just discovered a problem and is reporting it to someone else.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkZFWr0vR8Q
wtf why doesn't this teaser tell me who the lead is, Abrams you hack, why don't you tell me?? It better not be some white guy with doofy goggles
wtf why doesn't this teaser tell me who the lead is, Abrams you hack, why don't you tell me?? It better not be some white guy with doofy goggles
I don't understand. Why would the first few seconds of a huge billion dollar franchise sequel focus it's first few seconds on the first introduced character on someone who is not an important part of the film?
Seriously, if he was white, would you be making that statement?
i agree with this. Seeing as how people pretend any opponent could just easily target that one inch portion of the hilt, i am wondering, how any of the Jedis would still have hands after one fight.
If you see the blade moving to the (maybe) vulnerable part of your crossguard, you move the sword accordingly to make the crossguard blades deflect.
AzureRonin
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It's a "teaser". It's not supposed to answer any questions or describe plot or outline the major players. It's supposed to incite a person to think about the movie and elicit excitement.
You decided to attach the character's race as a negative descriptor. I think that's pretty rude.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Okay:
The manner in which you phrased your concern about how the trailer began inherently devalues black people. You may not have realized that's what you did, but the sentence
"I honestly think the first footage of this film should have started with something other than some black guy looking like he has to take an emergency dump."
Very strongly suggests that what's really inappropriate here is a) the first face you see is a black one, and such a decision is unworthy considering how momentous the occassion is and b) when that black face appears panicked, you automatically don't take it seriously, to the point where you immediately suggest the panic he's feeling must be intestinal.
Everyone in this trailer looks some manner of panicked/hurried. Does Daisy Ridley look like she's biking her way towards an emergency shit? Is Oscar Isaac racing across the water to find a portapotty? Maybe Joe Soccerball needs to expel some hydraulic fluids?
You could have applied that joke to anything else in the trailer, but you didn't. Why? Because you automatically value the importance of robots and white people more than you do black people.
That's how your single sentence read.
Yeah. I think in a movie universe where both the protagonist (Luke) and the antagonist (Vader) have lost their hands in lightsaber combat, and with the rumored opening shot consisting of a
severed hand holding a lightsaber
Maybe it even uses a very rare special crystal that shoots light to all 3 sides.
This all depends on IF Kasdan and Abrams want to have it be more than just form over function, but it could definitely make 100% sense.
Well, I think a lot of you are misunderstanding my intent. I don't have any problem with the first person in the trailer being black, or the lead being black, or even the entire cast being black.
There was an important black character in the original trilogy,and I think there should be more black characters in this new set of movies.
My comment merely addressed the "awakening" as an event of consequence. You see a familiar and classic Star Wars scene, and a man looks terrified. This event lacks some impact because leads of films generally don't lose their composure until you know something about who they are. He therefore doesn't strike me as the lead.
I know some of you are fresh from some other thread, but lay off. You know how to interpret someone's intent, and you know I wasn't being racist, nor have I ever been racist.
Some white dude, some Hispanic dude, whatever. I made no derogatory comment about his place in the film or his skin color, just how the few seconds made me feel.
There was an important black character in the original trilogy,and I think there should be more black characters in this new set of movies.
My comment merely addressed the "awakening" as an event of consequence. You see a familiar and classic Star Wars scene, and a man looks terrified. This event lacks some impact because leads of films generally don't lose their composure until you know something about who they are. He therefore doesn't strike me as the lead.
I know some of you are fresh from some other thread, but lay off. You know how to interpret someone's intent, and you know I wasn't being racist, nor have I ever been racist.
Some white dude, some Hispanic dude, whatever. I made no derogatory comment about his place in the film or his skin color, just how the few seconds made me feel.
SilentRacoon
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Isn't like having the hilt would have helped them much in the situations they both (Luke and Anakin) got their hands maimed.
Bobby Roberts
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I don't know any of that shit. I don't know who you are, I don't even know your real name.
You asked, I answered. That's how your shit came across.
"Some black guy" is inherently demeaning. It sounds like suggesting it's automatically a mistake that he be the first thing you see, that he's not important enough to be the first thing you see, and that his expression is one that automatically weighs less than everyone else's in the trailer.
The problem isn't that we suck at misinterpreting intent. The problem is that you didn't communicate your actual intent with any amount of care, and instead communicated a feeling you don't want out there.
AzureRonin
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Wow.... Well I guess that answers that. Btw racism doesn't require intent.
Unspeakable Evil
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Impact? Dude is scared maskless in the middle of nowhere. How is that not impact or raise any questions?
Context, dude. He's the first character in the first shot of the first teaser. You don't spend that kind of PR real estate on some random.
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