Starting to feel like WFH is going to be the new norm...

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at least that's the impression I'm getting. obviously it depends on your line of work, so I'm speaking to people who have jobs that can be done from home without issue.

both my wife and I along with my friends seem like we're going to be given the option to either WFH, return to the office, or do something in the middle

personally I'm fine if I forever have the option to work from home. I obviously still like the option of going to the office when needed, but working from home as the primary seems ideal

what has your experience been like? in a similar situation?
 
Been WFH since last Wednesday. First few days sucked.

Getting used to it now. I have 3 monitors set up - 2 for work and 1 to shitpost on Gaf.
 
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Vier said:
Been WFH since last Wednesday. First few days sucked.

Getting used to it now. I have 3 monitors set up - 2 for work and 1 to shitpost on Gaf.
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I honestly hated it at first but it's slowly grown on me to the point where I now prefer it

having access to my kitchen is huge. I can cook all my meals now without issue.
 
I fucking hope so, mate. Not having to cram my arse into the tube every morning to get across central London has been an absolute joy.

I wept tears of happiness when my company told us WFH was going on for the foreseeable future.
 
Our office had a soft reopening a couple of months ago, with employees returning on a part-time basis. I sent an email to one of the partners saying how working from home had changed my working habits and I'd be much more productive and valuable to the company continuing to do so. Admittedly, it's also because my sleep schedule is jacked, and I'm not sure how to recover. Either way, I never heard back, so I took that as a yes and have only been going into the office every few weeks when an IT task demands my presence.

Quite frankly, I never want to go back. This remote work thing is the stuff of dreams. I know others I work with feel the same as every time I have stopped by the office, there have been like, 5 people there (out of 80). There are a few people in my office that pushed for it - you know the type, those who want to have meetings about absolutely everything and prefer to do it in person for no particular reason, but our company has been prospering during this period of remote work.
 
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Be prepared for societies to experience healthy seasons and outbreak seasons. This already exists for flu season and whatnot, but now it's more risky.
 
God I hope it does. I am doing half and half right now and going to WFH full time would be absolutely amazing.
 
WFH is a godsend. I've been doing it since 2014 and can't imagine going back into an office. It's worth a paycut to me. I used to think I hated work. Turns out I just hate being in an office all day. I bust ass at home.
 
I've been full time WFH since like the 3rd month into the original lockdown stuff. It's great. I get so much more time and money back to myself without commute, gas, buying lunches, etc.

I feel really lucky in that regard.
 
My job is impossible to do from home but most others around me work from home. I actually like that i have most of my workspace for me alone now. The fact that everybody now expects me to use a webcam when they call me at work is annoying.

I can't imagine that anybody is working as productive at home as they are in the company.
 
Hopefully. Not only am I more productive WFH, but I also get more free time not having to commute to and from work.
 
I wish. I've been working from home since March 2020 and my employer announced in November that we will be returning to the office starting at the beginning of January. It's complete bullshit because and unnecessary. The ceo acknowledged how successful we've been working from home and our annual bonus was funded at 100% in 2020 - higher than it's ever been in the ten years I've worked for this company. So we've done better than we have in a decade working from home and yet they feel we need to be back in the office. Fuck off.
 
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My job wants to go to 3 days in office starting in Jan. I already accepted an offer starting in March cause fuck that shit.
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Yeah I'd consider leaving but I have about $30k in stock options coming to me January 2023 so I'll stick it out for at least until then
 
Con-Z-epT said:
My job is impossible to do from home but most others around me work from home. I actually like that i have most of my workspace for me alone now. The fact that everybody now expects me to use a webcam when they call me at work is annoying.

I can't imagine that anybody is working as productive at home as they are in the company.
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Stats show (at least in my company) that people are much more productive working from home. No useless chit chats, no walking between meetings. Productivity was up 17% since start of COVID.
 
I wish I could go full time WFH, managed to push it to 2 days a week, which saves me money on hotels and means I get to spend more time with my family.
 
p_xavier said:
Stats show (at least in my company) that people are much more productive working from home. No useless chit chats, no walking between meetings. Productivity was up 17% since start of COVID.
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Makes sense and i can comprehend that but the infrastructure in terms of internet connectivity is a mess here. As long as i'm inside the company i'm connected to the internal servers and everything works fine but outside... no way. I need my computer about 25% of the time i work a day so it doesn't matter that much to me and i'm always inside the company but others who are using it as a main point of operation can't be as productive when everything breaks down constantly. At least in my company.
 
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Makes sense and i can comprehend that but the infrastructure in terms of internet connectivity is a mess here. As long as i'm inside the company i'm connected to the internal servers and everything works fine but outside... no way. I need my computer about 25% of the time i work a day so it doesn't matter that much to me and i'm always inside the company but others who are using it as a main point of operation can't be as productive when everything breaks down constantly. At least in my company.
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For sure, a good Internet connection is a must. I'm lucky to have a gigabit bandwidth in a small rural town.
 
Enjoy your honeymoon.

You are all very naive if you really believe when WFH becomes the norm, companies will allow you to still have some privacy and free time in your home. You'll be monitored constantly, you'll have to have your phone tethered to you 24/7 and always be available. If you work with clients, they'll have your private number and be allowed to call you at any time they want, and it will be legal.

Don't think for a second that companies will lessen their grip on your life and soul one bit. At the moment, you're enjoying a commute-free life and all the benefits of a situation that's born out of an emergency. When this becomes normal... well, just you wait and watch. It won't be pretty.
 
I used to commute about an hour each way to the office each day, they have been nice enough to allow me to stay WFH while everyone else goes in at least once a week. It ain't fair to everyone else but I sure as hell ain't gonna complain.

Never want to go back to any office now
 
I do server infrastructure, so I always have to be available to physically touch stuff in case something goes wrong. But the rest of our workforce has been mostly shifting to work from home, so much so that by July of next year we will have like a 90% remote workforce (when before the pandemic it was like 0%). It's been a fun few years of setting up half measures for people to connect and work remotely, but now I've spent the last two months (and the next 6+) setting up an actual not-half-baked solution for remote connectivity.
 
NeoIkaruGAF said:
Enjoy your honeymoon.

You are all very naive if you really believe when WFH becomes the norm, companies will allow you to still have some privacy and free time in your home. You'll be monitored constantly, you'll have to have your phone tethered to you 24/7 and always be available. If you work with clients, they'll have your private number and be allowed to call you at any time they want, and it will be legal.
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Was the same pre-covid to be honest. There are laws being cooked up for the right to "disconnect". Our union signed a permanent working from home policy, with the possibility of going to the office up to two days per week. They'll save millions in Office space.
 
NeoIkaruGAF said:
Enjoy your honeymoon.

You are all very naive if you really believe when WFH becomes the norm, companies will allow you to still have some privacy and free time in your home. You'll be monitored constantly, you'll have to have your phone tethered to you 24/7 and always be available. If you work with clients, they'll have your private number and be allowed to call you at any time they want, and it will be legal.

Don't think for a second that companies will lessen their grip on your life and soul one bit. At the moment, you're enjoying a commute-free life and all the benefits of a situation that's born out of an emergency. When this becomes normal... well, just you wait and watch. It won't be pretty.
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Maybe for some.

I'm lucky that I am in an industry with high demand for my job and very low pool of people who do it. I get to set the terms. WFH, better pay, hours, etc.
 
Have been working from home for 1,5 years now. At first it was awesome. Now it fucking sucks.

Im really demotivated. I need to mix things up by being in the office, chat with people face to face. Yeah I can do whatever I want while at home, but it just sucks balls. Im also way...way less efficient and productive working from home. No one at my company gives a shit when I work, if I work etc.

At the 6 months mark I was working out at home over the lunch break, felt really good. But then something changed and I became a zombie looking at internet stuff while attaining meetings - meh. I hope this shit ends fast. Still got a promotion and have started a new role with the company, but man I feel so demotivated still... IMO WFH will change working life, and I don't know if for better or worse.

Edit: WFH is the new norm at the company. I just hope people will come back to the office naturally, now with Germany almost hitting another lock down we need to stay at home.
 
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Where I work you have to live at least 45min away to be able to work remote all the time. I live 5 min away so it's no biggie, and still remote once every month or two if I am expecting a signature required package, some handyman, etc.
 
The mindset for any worker should be play a role, support your team, get paid and live a cool life, if you're WFH you still need to have a personal life and do stuff at your home that has nothing to do with the organization.
 
It depends on the job and the type of person. I think for most people this is great, but after doing it for a year or two, people will start to get depressed and demotivated. I only did it for 10 months and didn't realize how awful it was until I started going back into the office. I was so lethargic and unmotivated to do work when I was WFH. It was amazing for the first few months, though. Felt like I was on easy mode, but having that separation of work and play is really important for me. When I am in the office, I work. When I am at home, I don't work. Simple and clean cut priorities, but WFH blurs those lines to a point where it never felt like I was working or relaxing. Just some weird limbo. Some buddies I know who are still WFH work on and off all day every day. Sounds like a nightmare tbh.
 
I love it. My office is 60 miles away, so I don't miss driving 3+ hours a day. I feel more relaxed at home as well since I'm surrounded by things that comfort me.

I miss my coworkers from time to time, so I head in to see them once a month. But most of my direct team is remote out of state so it doesn't really matter
 
jshackles said:
I do server infrastructure, so I always have to be available to physically touch stuff in case something goes wrong. But the rest of our workforce has been mostly shifting to work from home, so much so that by July of next year we will have like a 90% remote workforce (when before the pandemic it was like 0%). It's been a fun few years of setting up half measures for people to connect and work remotely, but now I've spent the last two months (and the next 6+) setting up an actual not-half-baked solution for remote connectivity.
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I can respect your position on this. I had originally set up a band-aid quick remote plan at the start of the pandemic, but luckily we had just invested in a bunch of new networking hardware that allowed for full remote work like 3 months before that. It took me about 4 months to get everything designed and set up, but now we're running a pretty nice model with generic workstations in the office with docks for people to plug in to, if they choose to work from the office. Otherwise yea, we're probably at 85% full remote.

I'm so happy that we just finished moving our production environment to Azure before this whole thing hit. It makes me being full time remote possible since I don't have to worry about the server closet anymore, outside of networking equipment etc.
 
I wish someone told that to our management, who still seem to believe that WFH is coming straight from Satan himself.

Most people in my firm would love some wfh, are actively asking for it, would be happier with it, and could absolutely easily do their jobs from home. But nope, can't do because.. Reasons!
 
I haven't been to an office since the pandemic started, February 2020. I sort of miss having an excuse to drive to SF, but my commute was too long, even if i showed up at lunch time. I switched jobs to a company that has offices all over the world, and nobody has asked me to go to an office, so I don't even know if I'll be making it back to a desk in the next few years.
 
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Pejo said:
I can respect your position on this. I had originally set up a band-aid quick remote plan at the start of the pandemic, but luckily we had just invested in a bunch of new networking hardware that allowed for full remote work like 3 months before that. It took me about 4 months to get everything designed and set up, but now we're running a pretty nice model with generic workstations in the office with docks for people to plug in to, if they choose to work from the office. Otherwise yea, we're probably at 85% full remote.

I'm so happy that we just finished moving our production environment to Azure before this whole thing hit. It makes me being full time remote possible since I don't have to worry about the server closet anymore, outside of networking equipment etc.
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That's what we're moving to also - everyone will have a laptop and there will be docking stations set up in the office that they can plug into if they need to / want to. Originally I had set up a VDI server accessed via a remote desktop gateway, combined with roaming profiles. It let most people sign in from home to a virtual machine that was on our network, "had their files", and would have access to internal resources.

Now we're moving to an Always On VPN solution combined with certificate based auth and seriously beefed up security. It'll let people take their laptops home and operate them just like they were here (although likely slower to access larger files from the network, etc.) Pretty big undertaking but should be pretty seamless when the whole thing is done. That's why I'm hoping this work from home stuff goes on for a while, this is a pretty big investment that would be a complete waste if everyone just came back into the office.
 
I go into the office every day. It's walking distance. I love having office to myself, It's been annoying having people come back. No one does fuck all working from home, Mondays and Fridays might as well be given off from now on, no one replies to emails...no one raises any jobs or tickets. 30 mins of working time lost because of WFH my arse, more like 30 hours.
 
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Much like Rome, lazy fucks will cause the downfall of an empire.

Awesome job guys.

I haven't missed a day of work since the pandemic started. Good luck paying back those pandemic loans.
 
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My work is blue-collar, physical labor (for the most part). But I was out for about a year for medical leave, and I tell ya', I was jonesing to go back. I was just going ape-shit here at home. Need that physical activity and stimulus of engagement I guess. Everyone's different, of course.

But yeah, it doesn't surprise me how fast culture is adapting to it. Stores began trying to become more and more self-service/delivery/pick-up to compete with Amazon, and they seemed to have jumped on it with both feet with Covid as the reasoning. I'm thinking in 10 years, most folks won't be leaving their homes for stuff like that anymore. And if your work doesn't require it, companies will save a LOT of money keeping you at home.
 
At first I wad jealous of all you work from home cats, but after having some time off, I need to be outside the house.

It's a 3 min commute from home to work (not even 1 song on Spotify) and I need that face to face with random clients.

Had a job offer that would pay more for me to stay at home, but turned it down based on the facts I realized. (It did help me leverage at 25% raise at my other job though)
 
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I've been working from home since 2018, and it's been a massive blessing for me. I honestly don't know if I could have made it otherwise.

I'm very thankful to God for the job I have. ❤️
 
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