It's essentially a variant on the f2p model. These games can (and should) have very long lifespans where people play thousands of hours in them. There's not very many ways to monetize that play time. The paradox model is perfect imo, you can spend as much or as little as you want, there's a steady stream of new stuff, and they can maintain development and profitability without having to push people towards a full sequel every year. It's far superior to things like the Madden series which abandons support yearly and requires a full game repurchase when dlc upgrades would have been perfectly sufficient and less expensive.
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STEAM | February 2017 - Giveaways are back
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It's essentially a variant on the f2p model. These games can (and should) have very long lifespans where people play thousands of hours in them. There's not very many ways to monetize that play time. The paradox model is perfect imo, you can spend as much or as little as you want, there's a steady stream of new stuff, and they can maintain development and profitability without having to push people towards a full sequel every year. It's far superior to things like the Madden series which abandons support yearly and requires a full game repurchase when dlc upgrades would have been perfectly sufficient and less expensive.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Correct, just download the new version and unzip it over the top of the old version
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
yeah, im using it now but dunno how to skip games
it also doesnt have me playing the game in the steam client so dunno if its working
broncobuster
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Ucchedavāda;229662520 said:
It came back for me after restarting. Panicked for a second because of how many games there'd be to sort through.
Due to the PS4 Pro FW 4.5 that improves framerate and performance in games that doesn't have a dedicated Pro mode I might actually just get the PS4 Pro instead of the Switch and get the Switch this christmas. I mean. still, during launch, it's only Zelda Im interested in and I still own a Wii U.
BadAss2961
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So no one knew this was in development? Giving people the option of allowing old games to run on that extra juice seemed like one of those no-brainers that just wouldn't happen for some reason, but then it just dropped out of nowhere.
hardcastlemccormick
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Well said.
I love the Paradox Grand-Strat DLC model. It gives their games legs that last for years. CK2 is what, 5 years old at this point? Yet new expansions keep the game feeling as fresh as it was at launch, not to mention far more polished and refined.
The recent Reaper's Due DLC was simply incredible, for example. Instead of getting annualized rehashes, or titles every couple years that start again from square one, we get an iterative title that grows and matures over time. Offering the enthusiast hundreds of hours of gameplay that it continually fresh thanks to new DLC even years later.
Brilliant strategy both financially for the company and qualitatively for the consumer. Win/Win.
LurkerPrime
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For Paradox, I wouldn't characterise it as F2P. It's more, "Games as a Service," where they'll keep working on it for as long as people keep showing their interest with their wallet. And yeah, I think it's been excellently handled. The way Paradox does it, their titles are essentially modular, although core expansion features are generally still added to the base game (accessible to the AI but not the player). And for CK2 specifically, they've actually been taking steps to make it even more modular recently (adding pre-game toggles for certain features) so they can go more wild with expansion ideas.
CK2's really had an amazing lifespan because of this development model (I also think it was the first Paradox game to really use this model). It's intimidating to look at now, but Paradox has treated it really well overall. Like, it's basically been remade a dozen times over thanks to all of the additions over the years, both small and large, and it still has room for a lot more. CK2 is a thousand times the game it was at release because of this.
Paradox really stepped into a league of their own when they released CK2.
Mackenzie 92
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Just bought total warhammer for $25 last night lol
Oh well..smh
Oh well..smh
thesaucetastic
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Someone took Ohklos, so thanks on their behalf.
the_firewithin
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refund and subscribe and save your self 13 bucks!
SirMossyBloke
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So about that Husk game. All negative reviews apart from one. Pre-release version too. Odd. Under the name Bart. Check his profile. Oh whats this:
Check out his previous name and the name of Husks developers. lol
Check out his previous name and the name of Husks developers. lol
welp thats disapointing, the game looked great in the trailer I saw some weeks ago, and the themese were interesting
we need our resident horror guru to tgive us the lowdown on it.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
For the Humble Monthly, Husk is a $20 horror game that LITERALLY just released today. It sounds like it needs some patches to polish some day 1 bugs, but I was super excited for it, it has strong Silent Hill inspiration (and hearing it nailed its atmosphere at least). I just saved a shit ton of money from buying it today from the bundle. XD;
Busted.
LurkerPrime
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If you can't refund for whatever reason, take solace in knowing that it's a great game well worth the money.
Waaagh at any cost.
So... ETA on when the Husk devs are booted from Steam?
Stump better jump on this game quick.
This was a terrible month for me besides the X-Com 2. Got Abzu and Ryse already, and Steamworld Heist on the iPad. But at least I can give them away to the community here.
UcchedavÄda
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Why do devs keep doing this? It's not like a single review like that would make people actually purchase it smh
Last Baron
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Husk is getting dragged in the Steam reviews
SirMossyBloke
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Looks like the Steam community is already picking up on this. Feel sorry for the guys at Humble Bundle for approving this on goodwill.
LurkerPrime
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A new game with 1 positive review looks more attractive than one with no reviews, I'd guess.
Of course that all falls to pieces the moment real players start reviewing it.
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Wok
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Ucchedavāda;229665254 said:
Thanks for answering. I will try another torrent client. I was using qBittorrent, but it does not seem to be detecting peers.
Edit: Nope, it is the same with another client. The only peer I find is the Humble seed which starts seeding and then stops after 1% or so.
pantsattack
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It is now. There are a lot of options but you don't have to change anything and it's much easier than it used to be to set up. They changed the icon from an Anime ferrie to something more software like too.
That sneaky Mitsuru hiding in the corner. My favorite byzantine empress
fluffydelusions
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Mankind divided worth it at $18 or just wait till the GOTY version?
Crimsonclaw111
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LurkerPrime
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Is that EU4? I don't remember it looking like that at all.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
yes, last years goty for me
Phawx
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Haha XD
Dragon1893
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OK, downloaded idlemaster again, been a while since I used it.
Jshackles, you rule man.
Jshackles, you rule man.
Nyteshade517
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"Enhanced Steam has been updated to <insert new version here> for everyone except Phawx...he knows what he did"
Theodora has nothing on Mitsuru.
The Theatrum Orbis Terrarum map mod is the main change. Then there's the 'For the glory of your waifu' mod which replaces the flags with anime characters. Because I can.
I can see it being the early game for April Humble Monthly.
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Enjoy! 
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Phawx
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It's true! haha.
Nah the real reason I use ASF is because I put it in a docker container on my NAS. Nice and lightweight and runs my alt account as well
this is an empire i can get behind
keys!!!!!!!!!!!!
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LurkerPrime
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I was seriously doubting it was EU4, that's one heck of a map mod.
And the waifu mod... eh. I don't understand it, but that's part of the wonder of mods.
ramoisdead
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Another lashman leak and I don't believe this to be Fiction:
oops ... looks like someone was a little bit too eager
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