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How much do you think Sony will sell theirs for? Can it really be significantly cheaper and offer a comparable experience?

In this price bracket is $499 really that much cheaper than $599?

At $399 I'd begin to question the hardware in the device.

Anything below $299 and I doubt it would be any better than those Samsung Android phone VR headsets.

I just mean the actual pricepoint of 599 U.S. Dollars is poisoned for them.

If it comes with two Move controllers, a PS Camera, the headset and the box thingy it plugs into - it could very well be 400-500.

 

[Cth]

Heh, already Ebay prices are crazy.. here's some of the worst

Brand New in Box! DK2 Oculus Rift Developers Kit
$750.00 or Best Offer

BRAND NEW Oculus Rift Development Kit 2 DK2 Virtual Reality Headset NEVER Opened
$1,000.00 or Best Offer

New Oculus Rift development kit 2 Video Game Glasses
$700.00 / $1,040.00 (BIN)

OCULUS RIFT VR bundle - Headset+Sensor+Remote+Cables+Controller+Games - preorder
$1,400.00

Oculus Rift Consumer Version 1 Preorder Limited
$1,200.00 / Best Offer +$18.99 shipping

NEW Oculus Rift 2 DK2 Development Kit 2 Video Game Glasses
$1,049.99 / Buy It Now +$50.00 shipping
178 sold

 

[Ludens]

Heh, already Ebay prices are crazy.. here's some of the worst

Does those offers you listed include PT?

 

[Se7enSword]

Heh, already Ebay prices are crazy.. here's some of the worst

178 people even bought that?

😂

 

[Chance Hale]

I just don't expect Sony VR to be worth much given how poor the PS4's hardware is. Magic interpolation can only go so far.

Can I sell my DK2 for 1000 dollars? I'll do that happily, lol.

 

[The Dear Leader]

Heh, already Ebay prices are crazy.. here's some of the worst

It's literally the PS3 all over again.

I just don't expect Sony VR to be worth much given how poor the PS4's hardware is. Magic interpolation can only go so far.

Yeah that's what I think too, I am far more skeptical that they can pull off a real VR experience with the hardware they have. VR is a big investment, so I don't see why someone would go with PSVR if they had a choice.

 

[ashecitism]

People already waiting for another Sony hero moment heh

 

[Pachimari]

What skin is this, and where do I get it (and add it) ?

finally got this today

In your face Ubisoft!

Best Tetris since the original. Congrats!

 

[Chance Hale]

Didn't Sony selling the PS3 at a loss make the game division hemorrhage money for years? Why would they do that again?

 

[The Dear Leader]

What skin is this, and where do I get it (and add it) ?!

It's called PixelVision.

https://steamcommunity.com/groups/pixelvisionskin

 

[Hektor]

What skin is this, and where do I get it (and add it) ?

Pixelvision, best skin there is.
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/pixelvision2

 

[Jawmuncher]

I still see PSVR at least this gen just being the new Move for them. It'll have support, but will move easily ignored as well since it won't Have anything to really interest those on the fence.

 

[PetriP-TNT]

Why is the title (near) centered and then the install button area left aligned to the centered text? Ayyyyghhh

 

[Cth]

People already waiting for another Sony hero moment heh

I wish my old hard drive hadn't crashed.

Back when PS3 launched, there were so many scalpers on Ebay that Ebay ended up changing policy requiring people to post their pictures with the PS3, yadda yadda yadda..

So, I started archiving the worst of them. I had categories: PS3s with Half Naked women, Piles of PS3s, SOB Story PS3s, Fund My Retirement PS3s, etc.

 

[shortsFortallPeople]

I still see PSVR at least this gen just being the new Move for them. It'll have support, but will move easily ignored as well since it won't Have anything to really interest those on the fence.

The hope is that PSVR will either officially or unofficially have PC support, which will make it the best VR option for us thrifty folks. So even if it's not given its full due on the PS4 it might have a long life on the PC

 

[Hektor]

Does the Rift Ship from the EU to the EU, or do they ship it from America or somehwere else outside of EU? In case of the latter, that could add another 20% to the price.

 

[YianGaruga]

I still see PSVR at least this gen just being the new Move for them. It'll have support, but will move easily ignored as well since it won't Have anything to really interest those on the fence.

I worry about this as well. I hope it won't be.

 

[CheesecakeRecipe]

Whichever headset brings Metal Gear AC!D 3 to the table will be the victor.

I don't suspect PSVR will be much cheaper, considering it comes with a processing box of some sort that generates enough heat to warrant a cooling fan. Whatever's in there can't be just a few cables and some magic sparks, which means additional markup for the end user. GearVR, a few lenses and some plastic housing, goes for $100 by itself. Once you start adding actual hardware, the price skyrockets.

I don't know if I see Sony being crazy enough to launch it above what the PS4 retails for, and it'll probably be the cheapest full-package VR set, but it's still gonna be a major investment.

 

[Nyteshade517]

I just use the Metro For Steam skin

 

[Leafhopper]

The people that backed the rift got the better end of the deal.

I still see PSVR at least this gen just being the new Move for them. It'll have support, but will move easily ignored as well since it won't Have anything to really interest those on the fence.

Yup.

Whichever headset brings Metal Gear AC!D 3 to the table will be the victor.

I don't suspect PSVR will be much cheaper, considering it comes with a processing box of some sort that generates enough heat to warrant a cooling fan. Whatever's in there can't be just a few cables and some magic sparks, which means additional markup for the end user. GearVR, a few lenses and some plastic housing, goes for $100 by itself. Once you start adding actual hardware, the price skyrockets.

I don't see it being less than $400. Hell it might be the same price all things considering. Maybe more considering what the hell is in that box.

 

[The Dear Leader]

I just use the Metro For Steam skin

Pressure skin is still GOAT.

 

[Se7enSword]

Whichever headset brings Metal Gear AC!D 3 to the table will be the victor.

I don't suspect PSVR will be much cheaper, considering it comes with a processing box of some sort that generates enough heat to warrant a cooling fan. Whatever's in there can't be just a few cables and some magic sparks, which means additional markup for the end user. GearVR, a few lenses and some plastic housing, goes for $100 by itself. Once you start adding actual hardware, the price skyrockets.

I don't know if I see Sony being crazy enough to launch it above what the PS4 retails for, and it'll probably be the cheapest full-package VR set, but it's still gonna be a major investment.

It does come with the least features among the rest so I can safely see it being priced the lowest. How low is that though, one can only speculate for now!

Also iI hope Sony are aware if they price an accessory headset more than their console which it is used for would be the equivalent of shooting themselves.

 

[ashecitism]

By hero moment I don't mean $599, but when they announced the PS4 price after MS did for XB1.

The people that backed the rift got the better end of the deal.

Just what I wanted to say.

 

[Jawmuncher]

The hope is that PSVR will either officially or unofficially have PC support, which will make it the best VR option for us thrifty folks. So even if it's not given its full due on the PS4 it might have a long life on the PC

PC support would be the one thing to help it out a lot. People will go a long way with cheaper, even if it's lower specs.

 

[MUnited83]

I still see PSVR at least this gen just being the new Move for them. It'll have support, but will move easily ignored as well since it won't Have anything to really interest those on the fence.

Depends on what kind of support you mean. Yeah, there won't be many AAA offerings that use it. Indie games though? There will be a crapload of support, since it's relatively easy to port the VR compability from the PC versions.

 

[Kriken]

I'm glad I don't care about early VR and am more than willing to let others be lab rats for VR until it's at a more manageable price

 

[Atraveller]

I'm glad I don't care about early VR and am more than willing to let others be lab rats for VR until it's at a more manageable price

I would very much like to try VR myself, but not at that price.

 

[The Dear Leader]

Depends on what kind of support you mean. Yeah, there won't be many AAA offerings that use it. Indie games though? There will be a crapload of support, since it's relatively easy to port the VR compability from the PC versions.

The question is though will the PS4 but up to the task of performance for VR.

 

[Lomax]

While $600 is expensive, I'm also not sure what a lot of people were expecting. I doubt Sony's solution will be significantly cheaper, either (dependent on how good their technology is and how much money they need to make off of each unit, of course).

Decent VR is going to be expensive for the next few years.

Gaf spent all of 2015 trying to convince us that VR would be mainstream in 2016. A $600 price tag just makes it ask the more obvious that isn't happening, so the dissonance is crippling.

It's kind of interesting that this seems to be the prevailing thought. I don't think VR needs to be at a mass-market price just yet to eventually be successful.

Considering the technology behind it, our price expectations are kind of weird. Like, we don't have these conversations about most television sets, which most of us probably spent around 600 dollars or more on. And TVs are technologically much simpler than a VR headset solution.

Not to defend Facebook, Rift, or even VR, though. If I would ever be interested in this stuff it would most likely be HTC/Valve's implementation.

HDtv went mainstream at the $300-$400 price point, and that was a purchase most households have no intention of replacing. Every attempt by the tv industry to convince the public they need to upgrade to fancier new tech beyond that has failed miserably.

Work 3 jobs so you can buy a headset and play a farming simulator.

The future.

So true.

 

[Kurt Russell]

PC support would be the one thing to help it out a lot. People will go a long way with cheaper, even if it's lower specs.

Yup, if PSVR can be used on PC games I'll probably get one of those in the future (since Sony has some official presence here, unlike every other VR manufacturer)

 

[shortsFortallPeople]

The question is though will the PS4 but up to the task of performance for VR.

well they're using some smoothing techniques as well as packing in an additional processor with the PSVR so they're trying to make it work. That said, most VR experiences have been pretty lo-fi so far so it's not as if there's some sort of crysis-like killer app that is pushing VR hardware as is

 

[chronomac]

 

[The Dear Leader]

well they're using some smoothing techniques as well as packing in an additional processor with the PSVR so they're trying to make it work. That said, most VR experiences have been pretty lo-fi so far so it's not as if there's some sort of crysis-like killer app that is pushing VR hardware as is

I just don't imagine there's a whole lot of headroom when porting from PC to add VR. It depends on the game though. Like isn't ARK, and those 2 new Crytek VR games supposed to be on PSVR? I mean ARK barely runs on high end PC's. I'd like to see what happens, it would be cool if they made it work somehow.

 

[Skii]

I still need to try VR. I don't understand the hype at all :/

 

[Se7enSword]

I still need to try VR. I don't understand the hype at all :/

Neither do I. Nor is there something that has grabbed my interest as well.

 

[donny2112]

Question on minimum specs for running ROTR:

I'm higher in CPU and overall memory than the minimum specs. However, the GPU specs say HD7770 2GB. I have an HD7770 1GB. Will it likely lock me out of playing on this PC or will it just have less capabilities?

System Requirements

Minimum:
OS: Windows 7 64bit
Processor: Intel Core i3-2100 or AMD equivalent
Memory: 6 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GTX 650 2GB or AMD HD7770 2GB
DirectX: Version 11
Storage: 25 GB available space

 

[Lomax]

Which is the bigger point of why it won't be mainstream. *Maybe* a device that's $600 complete could be competitive. Most people aren't going to buy $2k in tech for VR. Not now, not ever.

There's probably good money to be made in renting out spaces and equipment for VR experiences at hourly rates.

The return of the arcade? Maybe.

 

[YianGaruga]

There's probably good money to be made in renting out spaces and equipment for VR experiences at hourly rates.

 

[Backlogger]

I like the idea of VR but I'm not sold yet on it being the future of gaming. I don't think I would want to spend a lot of time with a headset strapped to my head. I don't plan on being an early adopter for sure. I'll wait and see.

 

[YianGaruga]

I like the idea of VR but I'm not sold yet on it being the future of gaming. I don't think I would want to spend a lot of time with a headset strapped to my head. I don't plan on being an early adopter for sure. I'll wait and see.

People also say (said) mobile is the future of gaming. All that means is that it's where a lot of money will be made. Normal games will continue to exist.

 

[Kaleinc]

VR in a world where games struggle to maintain 30 fps, sure.

 

[Leafhopper]

I still need to try VR. I don't understand the hype at all :/

Neither do I. Nor is there something that has grabbed my interest as well.

I like the idea but my ideal future of VR is stuff decades away lol

I don't want a headset personally.

 

[Hektor]

VR in a world where games struggle to maintain 30 fps, sure.

Games made for VR will surely prioritize Framerate over everything else. The last thing you want to do is making your customers vomit.

 

[lashman]

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[Hektor]

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[UltraJay]

Are the people who are surprised at this price surprised at the price of something like high end GSync monitors like the ROG Swift or whatever? VR devices are basically high end monitors.

That's a similar price I'd be looking at if I wanted a premium monitor. I actually think I paid $500 AUD for my Acer G24 back in 2008.

 

[YianGaruga]

FINAL FANTASY IX

It's already out in january? wow

 

[chronomac]

Which is the bigger point of why it won't be mainstream. *Maybe* a device that's $600 complete could be competitive. Most people aren't going to buy $2k in tech for VR. Not now, not ever.



The return of the arcade? Maybe.

This is the ground floor. The tech will get cheaper.

 

[Leafhopper]

FINAL FANTASY IX

The good one.

 

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