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the whole widget thing sounds awesome, especially if it could do split screen to multiple tvs. Is that even possible though?
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imastalker co.
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we'll find out in due time, but like i've said, this one has yet to fail me.AndoCalrissian said:
imastalker co.
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that's as far as the gameplay innovation goes.Deg said:
anyways, i don't want to say that this wireless video connection is as good as true, since im not going to be putting my reputation on the line. since well, i like the fact that most of you guys believe me, but yeah, like i said, i don't know enough about the techology to know if it's do able. but on the other hand, this dude has yet to fail me. i'll find out more next week hopefully.
AndoCalrissian
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Johnny Nighttrain said:
Keep us posted.
Gaia Theory
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Hear ye, hear ye, I concur.goomba said:
Krowley said:
Azih said:
I just skimmed through the later posts in this thread, so I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but perhaps this ties into the recent (admitedly confusing) Nintendo patent for providing multiple users with different unobstructed views of the same game action. I'm no techie, but maybe they found a way to push out different views to different displays without taxing the Revolution's processor too much?
This one, here...
One such patent, originally filed by Nintendo Co., Ltd. (NCL) on July 21, 2004, received an update earlier today. Upon inspection, the patent describes a "game system" and "game program" capable of providing a substantially improved view of the action by employing new technologies. These technologies, which by admission are somewhat difficult to decipher given the nature of the document, sound like something altogether different from what we've seen in any game system thus far. Take, for example, one of the main objectives of these technologies: to prevent a fixation point from frequently moving.
A fixation point is whatever a gamer stares at most of the time when playing a game. Thing is, most games feature several of these fixation points, so developers have needed to devise methods of including every object on screen at all times. When this wasn't possible, the display needed to shift and prioritize objects according to the action. Developers accomplished this by zooming the image up or down, to help gamers re-focus their attention. Just look at any number of sports games. The camera invariably follows the soccer ball, baseball or football. The document argues that the constant change in perspective makes playing games tougher than it should.
The patent describes a technology that would prevent a fixation point from moving and prevent the display area from changing in size. Regardless of where a player sits, he (or she) would command a deep view of the happenings on screen. This would also carry over into multiplayer gaming, where multiple players would normally require multiple fixation points. The new set of technologies would eliminate the strain associated with split-screen gaming. In summary, this would all make for excellent game sessions thanks to unparalleled view of the display. Changing the way a gamer watches the action unfold on-screen would be pretty revolutionary, but again, it's to early to tell what precisly the patent is refering to.
(Slack ass way of continuing my train of thought and bumping at the same time 
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Maybe, instead of giving multiple viewers the ability to see these different 'fixation points' on the same monitor (the most popular interpritation of this patent), what the technology actually does is precaculate the various fixation points from a 'master view', and sends the coresponding output to the monitor that each player is using (perhaps designated by the controler in hand)
Perhaps this is far less taxing on the processor than the common method of rendering the action individually on each screen?
If i'm right, I'm calling soothsayer
)Maybe, instead of giving multiple viewers the ability to see these different 'fixation points' on the same monitor (the most popular interpritation of this patent), what the technology actually does is precaculate the various fixation points from a 'master view', and sends the coresponding output to the monitor that each player is using (perhaps designated by the controler in hand)
Perhaps this is far less taxing on the processor than the common method of rendering the action individually on each screen?
If i'm right, I'm calling soothsayer
imastalker co.
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it's an interesting concept, but i don't think something like that would go down. although something like this might have some cool advantages for certain genres.Cruel Bastard Mario said:(Slack ass way of continuing my train of thought and bumping at the same time
Maybe, instead of giving multiple viewers the ability to see these different 'fixation points' on the same monitor (the most popular interpritation of this patent), what the technology actually does is precaculate the various fixation points from a 'master view', and sends the coresponding output to the monitor that each player is using (perhaps designated by the controler in hand)
Perhaps this is far less taxing on the processor than the common method of rendering the action individually on each screen?
If i'm right, I'm calling soothsayer
KyotoMecca
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john tv said:
Agreed 100%. The things said in there do not add up as genuine.
This was typed by a 12 year old. Or an inventive but worrying 17 year old.
psycho_snake
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It sounds like a kick ass idea. I would love something like that. The guys making it sound like something amazing. Lets just hope it is.
mrkgoo said:
No i write or HAVE written fake news and in my attempts to make it sound real I overdue it and the result is it sounds exactly like this email. Back when I did it though I did not know it sounded this fake. it's only until you see someone else do it that u notice the similarities.
soundwave05 said:
Mr. Iwata wasn't talking about a screen on the controller at all. He was talking in reference to the fact that Revolution will hook up to PC monitors. I think he was worried that people would think he meant that Revolution would use a TV screen & PC screen at the same time and thus he said that the system was NOT a 2 screen system...HOWEVER...it doesn't say anything about no screen on the controller though.
Was it Johnny Nighttrain who let on about the "Nintendo 21" rumors? I can't remember. Anyways, the Nintendo 21 rumors said that the controller would not be wireless from the start. Now Johnny Nighttrain is speculating that everything is wireless (even the hookup to the TV) which doesn't fit with either the Nintendo 21 rumor. To me...to have a wireless connection to a TV (or PC monitor) suggests an easy way to LAN (each playing having their own seperate screen?) perhaps which then goes against Mr. Iwata speaking about not having a 2 screen system?
Who knows what the Revolution is anymore at this point:
-touch screen on each controller (or maybe a seperate GBA-like VMU...remember the GBA redesign rumored?)
-wireless hook-ups to (multiple) screens (possibly for easier LAN gaming)
-gyroscope or GameEye gaming
-touch/feel rumor (my idea was a controller that could touch you back thru a "sensory button")
-Nintendo 21 gyroscope + "rub the controller" + Nintendo "Home" or community rumor
-my idea of having not just one main controller but having several...including more free use gyroscopic GameGrip's & another more traditional one
Or maybe it's a combination of some/all of those things like I believe. I've had another thought for a while now. The CPU is going to be multi-core right? What about one of the cores being dedicated to the controller interface to allow a possible output of next-generation graphics on each players individual screen? Of course, with that means each persons controller would HAVE to have a nice semi-big screen in order to enjoy it and this might be too taxing on the hardware in the end. I think the idea of each player (more than 4 even) having their own screen (and not just for connectivity stuff, I'm talking a screen that would be nice enough to display actual gameplay for indivual players)...BUT...Johnny Nighttrain's idea of having wireless hookups to (possibly multiple) screen(s) would be better suited for that. Maybe even with his idea plus the next generation GameBoy being a wireless controller *and* screen for Revolution gaming could potentially work. Instant LAN whenever you wanted, one person in the living room using their TV, another in their bedroom using their (next generation) GameBoy screen, another in the office using their PC monitor, etc, etc. Nintendo "community" perhaps? Who knows anymore.
I do love the idea of EACH controller having it's own screen so more stuff like this can be explored. I also like the idea of playing a game at home and playing the same game on the go using both Revolution (for home) and the next GameBoy (when out) in tandum like this. I really hope that Nintendo could either devise a method like the TurboGraffix/TurboExpress idea (a media that can be played in both systems) or better yet just make a HD the main format for the next GameBoy so I can download a chapter of a Revolution game to my new GameBoy. That would be pretty Revolutionary too IMO.
imastalker co.
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DrGAKMAN: i feel you should re-read the thread, or atleast all my post. you put all kinds of words and speculation in my mouth.
Johnny Nighttrain said:
Sorry...wasn't trying to step on your toes...I was just honestly wondering if you were the one who posted the "Nintendo 21" rumor...now that I think of it, it may have been Johnnyram instead???
Anyways...I did read the thread and you were speculating about wireless connections to the TV were you not? I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth, just saying that that idea (wireless connections to TV's) would be kinda cool & easy for LAN gaming as the Revolution could possibly wirelessly output (or broadcast) to local TV's, PC monitors or (if done right) future GameBoy's in the area allowing for each player (in individual rooms in the house even) to have their own screen.
God's Hand
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Next-generation is going to be great. We'll have at the very least one system that plays games differently. I hope Xbox 360 or PlayStation 3 do something unique to each other as well.
imastalker co.
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no, i wasn't. just reporting. maybe you should re-read it a 3rd time.DrGAKMAN said:
Johnny Nighttrain said:
Um...I've read all of your posts...I don't mean to keep bringing attention to you, nor am I one of those guys who's out to ruine your rep., not at all. It's just I like to speculate (it's one of my favorite things to post about) and when you out and out say something about a wireless connection to TV's a couple of times in this thread I find that interesting...so I speculate about it. Not putting words in your mouth or trying to say that you're saying something you're not...just taking your:
Johnny Nighttrain said:
:and running with it in my own theories/speculations. For the GAF record, Johnny Nigthtrain NEVER said that the Revolution would have wireless connections to your TV screen, PC screen and GB screen for LAN gaming...that was Garrison Andrew Kane's crazy speculation, not his.
imastalker co.
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Johnny Nighttrain said:
DrGAKMAN said:
DrGAKMAN said:
obviously im just bored at this point.
You say the words apparently and definatly in the same sentence...to me, that's not solid enough. I'm not saying I don't believe you and I'm not trying to prove you wrong, but at the same time I'm not just gonna plain say: "Johnny Nighttrain's said it apparently/definatly will have wireless everything" as if it's confirmed truth...maybe I shouldn't call it your speculation, but what should I call it? It isn't confirmed true by any means, it's just what you are reporting from your contact.
So should I say Johnny Nighttrain is reporting that Revolution will have wireless TV hook-ups and I'm speculating that it could be for easier LAN between TV, PC & GB screens? I ask 'cos you seem real sensitive about it...are you mad at me, do you think I'm out to prove you wrong ('cos I'm not, I believe you) or that trying to taint you?
For the GAF record:
Johnny Nighttrain is not speculating that Revolution will be all wireless...he's actually reporting it apparently/definatly is.
Is that what you want me to say?
P.S.-IM on AIM or PM 'cos this is getting rediculously off topic.
So should I say Johnny Nighttrain is reporting that Revolution will have wireless TV hook-ups and I'm speculating that it could be for easier LAN between TV, PC & GB screens? I ask 'cos you seem real sensitive about it...are you mad at me, do you think I'm out to prove you wrong ('cos I'm not, I believe you) or that trying to taint you?
For the GAF record:
Johnny Nighttrain is not speculating that Revolution will be all wireless...he's actually reporting it apparently/definatly is.
Is that what you want me to say?
P.S.-IM on AIM or PM 'cos this is getting rediculously off topic.
imastalker co.
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so what ever happened with the rumors of the revolutions hardware specs?
last i heard it was falling somewhere between the xbox2 and ps3? is that still so or is it below or above or sideways or what?
you would think Nintendo would release thse specs right along with the compitition so that people realize that it will be just as powerfull yet still different.
last i heard it was falling somewhere between the xbox2 and ps3? is that still so or is it below or above or sideways or what?
you would think Nintendo would release thse specs right along with the compitition so that people realize that it will be just as powerfull yet still different.
DemonCleaner
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who else wants to see a virtua boy with modern technology and controlgloves 
I dunno why everyone seems to think it's a give in that Revolution will be the least powerful system:
1) It will have the same hardware partners as MS (IBM & ATi)
2) It will be releasing AFTER Xenon so it's got to be at or above it
I guess alot of people believe it's a give in 'cos they think Nintendo is stupid/weak, or 'cos they keep on downplaying graphics/horsepower or they can't suddenly come to terms with Xenon (since it's launching first) will be the weaknest hardware of the next 3.
Besides, power really doesn't matter. It's more/less features that matter more to mainstream consumers 'cos they really won't be able to tell the difference between most screens from each system. GCN was seen as the weakest this generation due to lack of DVD playback, online and because of a smaller media format...plus a small kid-friendly design opened it up to more attacks DESPITE the hardware actually being pretty powerful and even comparable to the X-BOX. Revolution should add more features and shed the kid design and then more people will believe it isn't a weak system.
Doable Revolution wishlist:
-sleek, serious shell design (no cute lil' cubes or pastel colors)
-possibly make it small enough for portable play?
-BC with GCN
-CD, MP3 CD, DVD playback
-latest Dolby & HDTV support
-power comparable to the competition
-a cheap medium that isn't so limiting (9GB 12cm DVD) or add's value (encased mini-DVD also playable in the next GameBoy)
-a HD for self server networking
-going online
-wireless everything (including A/V output for easier LAN's)
-controller that is revolutionary (sensory feel + gyroscopic gameplay), but also allows for conventional controls
-(touch) screen on each controller
-giving it the ability to download (not just minor) content to the next GameBoy
1) It will have the same hardware partners as MS (IBM & ATi)
2) It will be releasing AFTER Xenon so it's got to be at or above it
I guess alot of people believe it's a give in 'cos they think Nintendo is stupid/weak, or 'cos they keep on downplaying graphics/horsepower or they can't suddenly come to terms with Xenon (since it's launching first) will be the weaknest hardware of the next 3.
Besides, power really doesn't matter. It's more/less features that matter more to mainstream consumers 'cos they really won't be able to tell the difference between most screens from each system. GCN was seen as the weakest this generation due to lack of DVD playback, online and because of a smaller media format...plus a small kid-friendly design opened it up to more attacks DESPITE the hardware actually being pretty powerful and even comparable to the X-BOX. Revolution should add more features and shed the kid design and then more people will believe it isn't a weak system.
Doable Revolution wishlist:
-sleek, serious shell design (no cute lil' cubes or pastel colors)
-possibly make it small enough for portable play?
-BC with GCN
-CD, MP3 CD, DVD playback
-latest Dolby & HDTV support
-power comparable to the competition
-a cheap medium that isn't so limiting (9GB 12cm DVD) or add's value (encased mini-DVD also playable in the next GameBoy)
-a HD for self server networking
-going online
-wireless everything (including A/V output for easier LAN's)
-controller that is revolutionary (sensory feel + gyroscopic gameplay), but also allows for conventional controls
-(touch) screen on each controller
-giving it the ability to download (not just minor) content to the next GameBoy
AndoCalrissian
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shpankey said:
I don't know, I don't look at my steering wheel to see what's behind my car. Perhaps some day we will do that, but not right now.
I'd honestly like the UWB wireless connection to displays, the technology is already here in some form and will start becoming more mainstream in 2005 and into 2006, which would be perfect timing. Not to mention, that if the system allowed DVD playback that they could help the UWB format gain popularity, as a low-price entry into that new segment of the DVD player industry. Give me this, a decent online service, and a gyroscopic controller and I'd say its a Revolution.
JoshuaJSlone
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Well, we'll probably hear all of them within the next 2 months or so. Close enough to "along".StRaNgE said:
AndoCalrissian
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That's true, we don't have 100% specs for any of these machines. At least now we know that Revolution uses IBM and ATi, is backwards compatible, and will be wifi enabled out of the box.
EternalDarko
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I'm pretty sure that Nintendo have stated in an interview either on IGN or gamespot or whatever site that there would not be anything like touchscreen on the controller. Also they have said that the technology behind Revolution is not gonna be something new and unheard of, but rather something that exists today, but is not used in our field. for instance something like the gyroscopes.