Mafia Films
Neo Member
has this SF V been confirmed yet, or is it fake?
I still had the feeling its a next gen SFIV, or some fan made hoax.
I still had the feeling its a next gen SFIV, or some fan made hoax.
Street Fighter 5 for PS4 & PC teaser trailer
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Handy Fake
Member
Of course it is. People knew more about the TR situation - enough to be annoyed by it - than they do about the SF situation.
akachan ningen
Member
Ryu's arm looks like a loaf of french bread.
Jacksinthe
Banned
3 thru 7 look like context to me. Could go either way, IMO. I have no stake in this game but I wouldn't have picked those, myself.
He wanted examples of hypocrisy. It's in the post you quoted.
I don't think you understood my post, your post has nothing to do with what i'm saying.
I'm saying, it sets a bad example and continues the industry thought that this kind of shit is acceptable in the future.
MS got taken to task rightly so, from me and everyone else, for locking Tomb Raider to their platform without real cause behind it outside of "we wanted an exclusive game".
I was happy to see that subsequent backpedal and explanation of the time duration, because it showed that MS and SE were listening to the concerns people have about this sort of thing. But now we have this, and its just going to make it worse if these companies keep doing it.
There is no real defense for what it looks like this exclusivity deal is. If your literally paying to keep a game that was already in development off of another platform, that's an issue.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Maybe it's exclusive to Japan.
Maybe.
Maybe.
Pathfinder
Member
The likelihood that Capcom was planning SF5 for PS4 and Xbox One is stronger than the likelihood that it was going to be a PS4 exclusive from the very beginning.
So the two situations are similar except for the official announcement.
Didn't realize the majority of the Street Fighter fanbase was on Xbox consoles. Thought it was more niche on Xbox while Tomb Raider started and was always more popular on Playstation.
But whatever, can't deny I've got a console preference.
Which you have not even remotely fulfilled. Being outraged at a TR exclusivity and then being excited about a SF announcement is not hypocrisy. Maybe you'd have a case if the excitement was about the exclusivity itself, but none were. Heck, one even denounces the fact.
Read the posts he quoted. So did he ask for something the posters weren't talking about? I assumed he wanted proof of what the posters were saying, which he got.
It's definitely confirmed.
Highly doubt that Capcom will ignore the huge install base of 14+ million owners worldwide.
Handy Fake
Member
TR was announced for all platforms. Two months later it was suddenly XB1 exclusive, and both SE and MS were very, very hazy and reticent about explaining the exclusivity deal.
SF hasn't been announced yet.
And yet you're trying to compare and contrast people's attitudes. Doesn't work.
Now go find all the people who defended the TR deal and are upset now. It's a pointless endeavor no need to pretend fanboys don't exist in all circles. Also of course the tone will be different in the TR deal effected the majority this deal only affects xb1 owners who are the minority.
Pathfinder
Member
Look, I provided examples to the best of my ability in order to avoid a ban. If Bish feels that my examples do not satisfy that requirement, then I will man up and accept my punishment for my original comment.
I disagree but I also don't care to continue to discuss that specific point with you. As I said in my previous post I don't see how you proved statements being made.
See:
>-Baron-Spamedi-<
Member
No young Skywalker, it is you who are mistaken about a great many things.
Most of the examples are not only 'not textbook hypocrisy', they are simply not hypocrisy full stop.
In fact it's quite possible to be able to generally disapprove of exclusivity deals, be angry about TR being exclusive and be still happy that SF is coming to PS4 without being internally inconsistent at all.
If you can't see that then you aren't concentrating hard enough.
Handy Fake
Member
Ah I see, sorry I missed that.
If that is the purpose of your endeavour, then I don't want to see you banned and will stoically give you a pass without drawing any more attention.
Pathfinder
Member
Agree to disagree.
That was one of three posts. We obviously won't see eye to eye on this.
TBF, TR wasn't announced for any platforms other than Xbone. According to Kagari though, it was in fact multiplat at the time of the initial announcement
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=140949415&postcount=7537
This thread is just going back and forth and I can see it getting locked soon.
Anyways, nobody knows anything, simple as that. This thread is almost 5,000 posts of people's opinion on "why this sucks..." and OMFG, awesome". Let's wait for an actual announcement to pass judgement.
Also, the same shit is reiterated on almost every page. This is different from TR, yes. And didn't Ono mention SF5 wouldn't happen for awhile, if ever, as they didn't have the time / money (see edit for sauce) to do it. Maybe Sony did help. What's wrong with that? As someone mentioned before, this is nothing different than Bayonetta 2 and Dead Rising 3.
At least, per the leak, it seems Sony is straight up about the announcement and not hiding the fact it's coming out on PC, too. They could've just as well said PS4 ONLY, never PC or Xbone, but no... The leak clearly shows no ill-will towards PC.
And also mentioned earlier in the thread, this is a Japanese company and Xbone has sold what... 40k consoles in Japan while PS4 is slowly approaching 1 million? For all we know, this game will only be PS4/PC exclusive in Japan and that's just in early video not ready for release in US and they have more to add. What do I know? Or anyone at this point... we don't work for Capcom.
To agree with you, yes, this sucks. But I'm not going to boycott the game, nor the companies involved because I don't know the decision making behind it. I wouldn't boycott KI or MS because it's Xbone exclusive.
No, I haven't bought one yet, but one day I will when it interests me more than just KI (not really into the current Xbone exclusives out right now).
Everyone needs to chill with the hypocrisy and the flaming until this weekend when [hopefully] Sony/Capcom officially announces that the game is in fact real and coming to just their console.
In the meantime, this thread has been entertaining, to say the least and I hope it keeps bringing more awesome GIFs.
Edit: Ono, last year, saying no budget for SF5: http://www.gamespot.com/articles/ono-says-no-budget-for-street-fighter-v/1100-6411507/
Handy Fake
Member
Cheers for that. In fairness I'm just going by the mood of the time i.e. it was known that it was originally multiplatform, hence the ire.
The vague wording was clear obfuscation when we consider how they handled every follow up question. No such follow up questions have been asked of Sony or Capcom in any way that we can realistically expect a response.
If you felt the response by gamers in the TR situation was irrational and silly, then you should actually believe the response to SF5 as significantly more acceptable. After all, the community has so far refused to become enraged over things we don't actually know yet.
>-Baron-Spamedi-<
Member
Point out how and I'll show you where you're going wrong.
Sure, we can agree with that. However, there's no indication that this scenario accurately represents SF5. It's just as likely, in fact more likely when considering the circumstantial evidence, that this is a repeat of DR3 in the sense that it may not have happened now or at all without this deal.
Save your rage for when we actually know enough to be certain that anger is the right response.
Pathfinder
Member
I'm not interested in arguing with someone who insists they are right and then tries to teach other people to think like they think.
I rather prefer intelligent discourse.
Face it Tiger..
Banned
EDIT: wrong thread
Pathfinder
Member
Sorry, my eyes and brain are tired from earlier.
What I meant was I don't like arguing with someone who refuses to try to understand where the other person is coming from, but instead is only interested in showing the other person where they feel they are wrong.
Nathan_Drake
Member
This is like some hostage standoff where we all lose. XBox is holding Tomb Raider and PS4 is holding Street Fighter.
Fucking truce man. Everybody just walk away with your weapons down. Let us all enjoy our classic video games. These are titles not to be fucked with or to be made exclusive even timed. These are IPs that belong to all of us no matter what console you own.
I know as a PS4 and Wii U owner that I am really upset about the Tomb Raider deal. I don't play Street Fighter so I don't care it is coming to PS4. I do care that people that love the franchise on XBox are getting hosed.
None of this is necessary.
Fucking truce man. Everybody just walk away with your weapons down. Let us all enjoy our classic video games. These are titles not to be fucked with or to be made exclusive even timed. These are IPs that belong to all of us no matter what console you own.
I know as a PS4 and Wii U owner that I am really upset about the Tomb Raider deal. I don't play Street Fighter so I don't care it is coming to PS4. I do care that people that love the franchise on XBox are getting hosed.
None of this is necessary.
>-Baron-Spamedi-<
Member
Lol. Whatever dude.
Maybe I'm picking it up incorrectly you seem to have accused (or suggested) that people have been inconsistent and hypocritical without actually understanding what it means.
Good luck finding some evidence, I won't interrupt you in your search anymore.
Had a little more time to stew on this. Everything about it just sucks.
They show a trailer that talks to the core of the SF fan and show a wide range of player types enjoying this game that has been a huge franchise for over 20 years...then slap the exclusive crap on at the end.
I am pissed.
I am salty.
I own both XB1 and PS4.
The people I play street fighter with only own XB1.
Ugh.
They show a trailer that talks to the core of the SF fan and show a wide range of player types enjoying this game that has been a huge franchise for over 20 years...then slap the exclusive crap on at the end.
I am pissed.
I am salty.
I own both XB1 and PS4.
The people I play street fighter with only own XB1.
Ugh.
Mafia Films
Neo Member
where has it been def confirmed?
It's sort of amusing to see that we needed proof to figure out that there are fanboys on neogaf. You're going to find a good deal of hypocrisy on both sides of this. There are going to be exclusives, people need to deal with it.
>-Baron-Spamedi-<
Member
QFT.
Sadly the monster is out and at this stage it's self perpetuating.
Ultimately we're all worse off for it.
I'm not really into SF but was moderately annoyed about the Tomb Raider thing.
Was glad I was on the winning side for Destiny cos it was a bit light in content anyway. Sucked bad for Xboners though.
Exclusivity. We all lose.
-sigh- Calming down somewhat.
Thinking back on it. I do remember a little while back someone at Capcom(might have been Ono, not sure) officially stating that SF5 would not be seen for many years because they didn't have the resources or okays within the company. Maybe Sony did kickstart it somehow. So maybe it isnt similar to the TR situation.
I don't know. I just hope they are up front and transparent about the situation when it is officially announced.
andrerobot
Member
. wrong thread!
EDIT: Holy crap this basically looks like SF4 without the ugly shader. Disappointing.
EDIT: Holy crap this basically looks like SF4 without the ugly shader. Disappointing.
SlaughterX
Banned
Pretty disappointing a game as big as this would be exclusive, but I guess this will be the first SF game I buy on PC, even though I will probably already have a PS4 by then and even though I bought all versions of SF4 on the PS3.
what I'm guessing is that Sony paid to help get it out sooner than Capcom was willing to release it. I don't think they would have released it until the next-gen consoles became the majority or at least had a bigger percentage. It's understandable and I don't hold much hatred towards third party exclusives, honestly, timed or not. but then again, it's yet to be one for a game I truly wanted, so that's probably why.
my god capcom is insane, what a strange move alienating their own fan base this way
Yea. He said it back in 2013
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/ono-says-no-budget-for-street-fighter-v/1100-6411507/
DarkoMaledictus
Tier Whore
TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTAL METLDOWN!!!!
Here goes my life, I just ordered this week a new fightstick =)!!
Bring it!
Here goes my life, I just ordered this week a new fightstick =)!!
Bring it!
They've done so with plenty of franchises, DR3 being one example. And this is another.
It should not be a habit however