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Street Fighter V |OT40002| it's been a Guile, but Urien for a wait
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I keep mistiming everything it's getting me so frustrated lol
Pure_Phazon
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I'm down.
GGs, and I'm glad I could help.
Hey, its just one guy working on this. Give the guy a break.
tintin1029
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You're really reminding me how much I hate jab anti airs. Just feels wrong when crossups and heavy air attacks get swatted out of the sky with a jab.
EDIT: GGs, as always.
Pure_Phazon
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You're really reminding me how much I hate jab anti airs. Just feels wrong when crossups and heavy air attacks get swatted out of the sky with a jab.
Yeah, I think I overuse it though. There are certain ranges where it gets stuffed. That, and the trade-off between miniscule dmg from jab or the opponent getting a full jump in combo makes it risky with little reward.
GGs. Alex vs Guile was actually pretty fun.
spazchicken
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Can someone make sense of this? I want to be angry as well. I hate Necalli's normals and I knew there was something shady going on with him but I can't tell what's what here when compared to the character model.
spazchicken
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Yeah but how does this make sense in relation with the character's body?
http://eish.deviantart.com/art/Necalli-596290649
It has huge reach beyond his arm.
http://eish.deviantart.com/art/Alex-600024227
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guiltygear/comments/4jjz2a/theory_of_improving_in_fighting_games/
This is a good read in improving your game
This is a good read in improving your game
spazchicken
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Ok that makes sense. Thanks.
Red box = Hit box
Blue boxes = Hurt boxes
When character A's hit box, make contact with character B's hurt box, character B get hit.
What make Nicalli's st.LP strong is the hit box on his hand is bigger than the hurt box, and extend higher than Necalli's head hurt box, which makes it a good anti air because when someone jump at Necally, there's a big chance they'll get hit by st.LP's hurt box before they could reach Necalli's hurt box.
abstract alien
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Good lord at FANG's boxes. I guess that's one reason I kept getting smashed at first.
Eventhubs has a good interview with fourwude about 8f worth reading.
ShogunDarius
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so Balrog announced later today?
Is that Loran Cehack's long lost sister?
Hey there, fans of Street Fighter The Movie! It's Sawada!
https://mobile.twitter.com/takaNakayama/status/732942913043234817
This is actually fucking awesome! I would love this!
You can't put johnny yong bosch in a game , he would end up broken.
I'm already tired of how overblown and over-exaggerated this thing is. :/
Ehhhh, I sure wouldn't say it's overblown considering I've experienced how poop PS4 feels after playing v-sync off PC. There is a real, considerable difference there.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Meter oddities:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d92GwFTNt5E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d92GwFTNt5E
"God's Beard!"
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3 more frames of input lag, claims entire metagame is dramatically shifted towards wild reads and scrambles
and yet justin wong is the best player in the us using a grounded footsies playstyle. what a crock of shit.
and yet justin wong is the best player in the us using a grounded footsies playstyle. what a crock of shit.
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";204081087]3 more frames of input lag, claims entire metagame is dramatically shifted towards wild reads and scrambles
and yet justin wong is the best player in the us using a grounded footsies playstyle. what a crock of shit.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's my point.
Not saying there's no differences between the PS4 version and the vsync-off PC one, but that whole "it prevents usual playstyles entirely! can't anti-air! can't react to dashes! can't punish Ken's unsafe shits!" is overblown. ^^
and yet justin wong is the best player in the us using a grounded footsies playstyle. what a crock of shit.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's my point.
Not saying there's no differences between the PS4 version and the vsync-off PC one, but that whole "it prevents usual playstyles entirely! can't anti-air! can't react to dashes! can't punish Ken's unsafe shits!" is overblown. ^^
People that are not winning are always looking to justify their loses. "If only there was no input lag I would be so much better!" Load of BS. I can bet that if Capcom ever "fixes" this the same player will be at the top and the one that lose will keep losing.
Baleoce
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Honestly, how is that still not done?
It is actually pretty shocking because you'd think getting real money from DLC would be their number one priority as a company.
EDIT: Watching this week's Capcom Pro Talk. I've been noticing the same players vsing them all the time. Like this MindFluxed guy has been there multiple weeks. Easy source of free Twitch Turbos I guess.
The Yo Tornado
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Hey, so is there a reason my wake-up recordings in training mode aren't playing? I'm trying to practice this Alex OS but the dummy never actually performs the inputs in either guard recovery or wake-up. I set the dummy to mash jab on wakeup and that worked fine, so I dunno if it's a problem with the actual input, the dummy recording or what.
Don't think wakeup recording accepts complex inputs(more than one move or delayed inputs), so option selects wouldn't work. Still, if you're practicing an OS, you should record the dummy to knock you down > pressure you on wake up with different stuff and you try to do the OS instead of recording the dummy doing the OS!
The Yo Tornado
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Fair enough. The training menus are so awkward that I just went the easiest route possible to try and figure it out, lol.
sixteen-bit
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Bit of trivia:
Akira Yasuda (AKIMAN), the character designer on SF3 was also the character designer on Turn A Gundam. Elena and Loran Cehack were designed by the same guy.
IMO you really can't punish Ken's unsafe runs every time if he mixes it up. Even Fuudo said he couldn't really consistently react (not guess/press a button immediately) against run cancels and Momochi was getting counterhit st fierce off cr. mp > run (-6)
That stuff will remain viable.
lucebuce12
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That's the whole point of mixing things up, though. Never said that you should always be able to punish it, just that it *is* punishable if you are looking for it / expecting it. It's the same thing as Laura's vdash: the regular people I play against punish me for it 3/4 of the time, but when I mix it up correctly in the middle of a meany block stun sequence, they sometimes fall for it because their mind have a hard time catching up with what's happening. I feel like those two options are right where they should be: viable. There are not meant to be -30 and always easily punishable, but you CAN punish them quite easily when you are expecting them.
People are using this 8f delay to say that Ken's run is busted and impossible to punish, though, and that's just plain false. ^^
ShogunDarius
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I still hope it's Urien, so he can put that pretender Bison in his place
Zombegoast
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It's not just Necalli's but everyone's Standing Jab is a AA. It can also beat cross ups as well. It's one of the thinks that makes R.Mika horrible to fight against when in the corner.
You......I like you.
Its nothing on ryu's or necalli's jab tho
I dunno man. The vertical reach seems pretty nuts. But maybe it's just combined with the fact that it's a great back up if all 24 of his other AAs don't work you still have that that makes it seem so good.
So... tried playing some Ryu after reading that using a 'standard' character is more beneficial for getting better at the game instead of an odd character who people don't how to fight (*cough*Mika*cough*) and so far it feels like easy mode.
His normals are so good with easy hit confirms into combos. The invincible DP shuts down so much of the opponent's offense and the basic fireball/DP combo is super frustrating for people to deal with.
His normals are so good with easy hit confirms into combos. The invincible DP shuts down so much of the opponent's offense and the basic fireball/DP combo is super frustrating for people to deal with.
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