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Street Fighter V |OTVI| The More I Know, The Worse I Play
- Thread starter Reizo Ryuu
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A match to analyze helps for giving tips. For what you mentioned, though:
1. There are only two wake-up options available to the opponent after landing Wingless Airplane: normal recovery or delayed recovery. They can't recover backwards after WA; the same as any throw or command grab in the game. If you're missing a meaty, it's simply that you're missing the meaty timing. Dash > st.MP after landing WA will hit the opponent in the air and simply reset them if they reversal backdash. The go-to meaty would be st.LK or st.LP, which beats it cleanly. st.MP does work against a wake-up 3f, though, if you call that out. Same for a Dash > command grab.
Never use st.HP as a meaty. It is -6, and there is no good hit confirm from it.
2. Well, can't say much about this one except for seeing the situations you're in myself. If you get punished by trying a dash command grab every time, then you're not properly gauging situations. This option is used when the opponent is very much on guard, because you've managed to scare them enough by properly applying footsies, and also being patient enough that they wouldn't expect it at that moment. You can't just always go for a cross-up j.LK at a certain distance; sometimes you should just walk and throw out st.MK at good distances and moments where it'll hit them or where they'll block it but won't leave you on too much of a defensive. Throwing out uncharged HK is also a footsie tool that will avoid lows and can CC.
3. The most important things to know when playing Mika:
- Patience is essential. She doesn't have the tools or the properties (e.g. health) to get away with being impatient anymore.
- st.MP linking into EX Peach as a footsie tool. You have something like 4 frames to confirm this so it's relatively easy, and it's extremely important for damage, corner carry and pressure.
- st.MP > HP Peach buffer. st.MP is the main footsie tool because it has decent range for her and good recovery so it's hard to whiff punish. You have to empty cancel into HP Peach at neutral when you throw it out, in case it hits so it can cancel into it.
My Mika is Level 74. Like I've said before, I play several characters; that header doesn't really matter. My Balrog is level 60-something, my Guile is level 50-something, my Birdie is almost level 40, and even Laura and Nash are level 30. My player level is 558.
Depends on rematches and if you're searching for matches in training mode where there's an extra 15 seconds of loading or not.
If we go by 2 matches on average in a row and 80s of loading in and out, it's 167 hours.
OmegaTreeFish
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Thanks for the tips Flux. I appreciate it. With point 1 though I was having issues following up after flying peach.
I remember forcing my self to be more patient in some of my later matches and having more success. Waiting till the really didnt know what I would follow up with. I think Im prograssing reasonably with her but as always I have plenty to learn still.
Flying Peach requires other forms of meaty setups that are not the same as the ones for Wingless Airplane, because your frame advantage isn't the same when you dash on a recovering opponent, and also because they can back recover, which they can't from WA. Dash > f.MK is a good meaty for a back recovering opponent from that, which you can follow with her target combo. st.MP or command grab on normal recovery, beating out 3f buttons.
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sixteen-bit
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I like how Harada is being up front with the load times on T7
hopefully they can get it down as short as possible.
hopefully they can get it down as short as possible.
OmegaTreeFish
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Awesome thanks. Didnt realise MK on counter comboes into LK (I think thats what ya saying). I can use that certainly.
Not just counter. If they do anything after a back recovery in that sequence, you can combo into st.LK without it being a CH. It's a meaty st.MK, so instead of being -3 you're at 0. That kind of change in frame advantage happens with many meaty buttons.
"God's Beard!"
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Guile's dfRH into EX Sonic Boom combos are so hard.
lucebuce12
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Someone link that video of Sako playing on his Vita while waiting for the match to load.
Who would think being upfront about this stuff makes the community happy.
I'm down for games later tonight if you're on.
OmegaTreeFish
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And its stuff like that that shows how little I really know about this game.
Great stuff
I can play; I'll invite you in a minute.
Being upfront about a game's issues doesn't mean anything if you don't fix them. Ono can talk once a week about how embarrassed he is with the servers and how he wants to improve them but people would rightfully give him shit if he didn't produce results.
That's probably why Capcom stopped communicating with the fanbase directly. They realized there was no fix on the horizon so radio silence was the least painful way to handle it.
Definitely
I've been playing OoT on 3DS while waiting for matches.
Shmuppers
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Yeah, I've always used deviantart.
Reizo Ryuu
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CFN is tied to steam ID, so you'd have to share your library with them so they can access the game on their own account. This means having them log in on your pc once, and then you authorise their account in your steam family settings.
GGs, Producer. I always have a tough time with Birdie, eventually needing to rely on V-Trigger to bring it all back. I think I need to be relying more on Bullhorn than I do, but it can be tough to react. I also tend to try cr.HP too much as an AA instead of cr.MP, but the latter doesn't have enough horizontal range, so sometimes the only thing I can do is nothing if they're jumping at a certain angle, and that's tough. Hm.
I like our matches, you force me to be patient in ways I usually don't have to be, relying way more on conventional footsies and such. It makes me improve that aspect of my play, which is nice. In the corner, you were relying too much on trying to counter my drop kick reset, but I called it out everytime except for the first because I figured out you were too eager to. Should have tried to just do nothing when you saw I was waiting for your jump after the second time it happened.
Also, you started neutral jumping a lot more, so I couldn't get away with drop kicking as often as I was before. That was interesting. I made my own adjustments too, though...
I like our matches, you force me to be patient in ways I usually don't have to be, relying way more on conventional footsies and such. It makes me improve that aspect of my play, which is nice. In the corner, you were relying too much on trying to counter my drop kick reset, but I called it out everytime except for the first because I figured out you were too eager to. Should have tried to just do nothing when you saw I was waiting for your jump after the second time it happened.
Also, you started neutral jumping a lot more, so I couldn't get away with drop kicking as often as I was before. That was interesting. I made my own adjustments too, though...
Thanks, didn't realize that was possible.
UcchedavÄda
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I am also down for some games at some point.
GGs man. Yeah i noticed that with Birdie, seems he has a tough time and has to go all in often, i was definately more comfortable jumping in on him and not ever too afraid to do air legs.
Also noticed i was jumping to much in the corner but i hate feeling like a sitting duck, so many things i can get hit by, command throw, meaty, shimmy etc i just feel helpless and go with the jump. Definately need to work on that. Seems like you got the hang of S2 Mika though, solid neutral game, mixups etc.
allintospace
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I bludgeoned my way up into Silver tonight. It's not much, it wasn't pretty, but I'm chuffed.
UcchedavÄda
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Monochromatism.
sixteen-bit
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5 pages until OT7 :O
will dlc info be released before then?
TheSpoiler
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I think they might drop shit on us during the EVO stream.
So maybe unless I can shitpost our way to freedom!
sixteen-bit
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If SFV has a big announcement on stream tonight it would make sense that Tekken didn't want to drop release date news on the same stream.
Here's hoping.
Here's hoping.
CountBlack
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sixteen-bit
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Teabagging in a fighting game has apparently turned into sexual assault. What is the world coming to.
ScraftyDevil
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Only cowards teabag. If you really wanna put someone on tilt, commit to a taunt instead of performing some limp, graceless facade of a lewd act.
OmegaTreeFish
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So latest rank 1 has 151,314 lp but last game played was 2 days ago with conciderably less lp lol.
sixteen-bit
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gotta be an exploit
OmegaTreeFish
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Oh def. New one every few days at the mo
UcchedavÄda
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Haha, did you just finish your coffee? P and almost P.
UcchedavÄda
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Gotta get me some of that!
Reizo Ryuu
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don't be so hard on yourself, you're not a bad player.
There's 2 things I've noticed in all the videos you've posted so far:
1. confirms, you don't seem to look out for them.
you either hit a button and hit your opponent, but without follow up, or you go on auto pilot with a full combo even if it's blocked which leaves you negative.
2. you don't condition your opponent so you can go for certain setups; juri has an insanely good dash up throw and overhead distance, you should really use them to make your opponent fear those options, then mix it up for the CC punish.
It might be a bit later depending on when we reach 400 pages >_>.
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