Reizo Ryuu
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Harrison blog already said CFN stuff would be in spring.
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Street Fighter V |OTVI| The More I Know, The Worse I Play
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got bopped hard by a Urien recently huh
direct_quote
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Fuck that, just give it more recovery frames.
Huw_Dawson
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May, then, alongside S2 character #3?
EDIT: Added more to my Urien nerf wishlist.
Urien is actually unbalanced in this game - he is far and away the best character, as I suspect Evo etc would show this year if he is not seriously toned down.
Fireball game + footsie game + great reversal + massive comeback potential + great movement + great throw game = by far the best character in the game.
Oh god don't remind me. The reveal trailer had me insanely hyped but then it went all the way down to zero when this mess was released. Despite having an arcade mode, people still dropped that game like a sack of spuds because the gameplay elements were awful - something which SFV has thankfully done right. Just sort out the rest of your shit Capcom.
TheSpoiler
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His fireball is garbo though. His footies game is good, but aggressive characters can shut him down pretty hard. His reversal is good but slow as hell and I think CCable? He's got great comeback potential in the form of AR, but even knowing enough about the start ups and not putting yourself in a situation where you can't get out of a crazy mix up (i.e. the damn corner) means homeboy has to work to put you through some stuff. He has a bunch of unfavorable matchups and I think characters that are 5-5 with him eat him for free if they get their shit started first (ala Bison, from what NLBC people were saying).
He's strong as shit, but unbalanced? Ehh, I wouldn't say that.
Edit: And lulll I love all the anti-Urien tech, which is just smashing against the reflector and getting combos off of it because people still do that shit on wakeup.
TheSpoiler
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No, I'm saying the dudes at NLBC said the matchup was 5-5, not that it's the full determiner. It seems like it, since both wanna get shit started, but hey, we need a few more months for that any way.
On the flipside, I don't want them to change things based on people who are on some salt game. Elsewise I'd tell them nerf the shit out of Cammy for being plus on everything and being able to just do whatever the fuck she wants to my Balrog.
You hear me Capcom? Nerf her speed, nerf her damage, nerf her range and put her in a damn dumpster.
Nemesis121
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Damn these Canadian's are laggy tonight, fresh server maintenance and the lag is bad...
Rickenslacker
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I wouldn't call Urien's reversal great, you can pressure him pretty free on wake up even with meter because its startup allows you to whiff a normal and still have time to block.
Yeah, I remember when they kept Mika good for this reason and the hype her comebacks generated in Season 1.
hey_it's_that_dog
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Did ZeroTheShadow ever prove it, though?
mika got nerfed cause she had a stupid move that made no sense outside the corner and led to unfun ten seconds of pain if not more
everybody loves urien
Her "comebacks" could be generated 5 seconds into a match.
Urien's rely heavily on his V-Trigger.
Yeah, without the BS whip stuff she's actually fine as a character.
Urien has all the tools to make the V-Trigger comebacks yet another unnecessary cherry on top. My point is that I definitely don't think Capcom cares about that when it comes to balancing, just like selling costumes is clearly not their priority either in terms of balancing.
Shadoken
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Nah. I still Find Urien comebacks nice to watch. Mika always felt like the character you root against. Her comebacks were always the same loop over and over again.
I feel there's more variation/flexibility for Urien's V-Trigger setups, but rooting for him? It's as if someone would be "rooting" for a Laura who just landed st.MK xx V-Trigger and suddenly the opponent's health goes to 0.
We've just come off a season where there were like 3 tournaments every weekend with decent level competition in most and characters every month.
FaintColt388301
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I just beat some random person at PAX. It wasn't a tournament or anything just a free play thing but it was cool. I'm so scrubby and I always just assumed when I beat people online it's because I'm playing 2 year olds.
Nice to know I can beat a regular dude who actuals knows how to play on a fight stick.
Nice to know I can beat a regular dude who actuals knows how to play on a fight stick.
I got beat on immediately after by some other guy. That's what happens when you feel yourself and have no reason to
ScraftyDevil
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THIS IS MY TOWN
The last trailer with Bison vs. Jin was amazing too, damn. Gives me goosebumps every time even despite the angsty song that accompanied it.
spazchicken
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I kinda feel like the game needs Sagat. I don't even like him. I just feel that he needs to be here for some reason.
I would also love Terry Bogard as a guest character but then everyone would start petitioning for The Yellow Ranger or Michelangelo or whatever dumb characters they can think of that don't fit in a SF game.
I would also love Terry Bogard as a guest character but then everyone would start petitioning for The Yellow Ranger or Michelangelo or whatever dumb characters they can think of that don't fit in a SF game.
Nemesis121
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Play FANG Character story, by second stage should get the 5k FM..
SolarPowered
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Jesus lol
I totally agree with the cr.mk nerf, but I just want Capcom to buff instead of nerfing so much, though. We all know Alex, Fang and Nash could use more help than the top tier could use more "normalizing".
Zombegoast
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Urien's Cr.MK should be -4 just like Nash because why not?
spazchicken
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So why is Nash's EX, SS still not invincible at startup?
What's wrong with him having at least one "get off me" move?
What's wrong with him having at least one "get off me" move?
ScraftyDevil
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Sure, could use some games to polish off my rust. CFN is Scrafty.
ScraftyDevil
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lol the Alex vs. Akuma matchup feels impossible. All of Alex's buttons are too slow and punishable so he's free in neutral.
SolarPowered
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Alex and Nash should both really have a metered invul wakeup option. The former is especially screwed once knocked down.
Thread the needle and find a couple of openings for dash up command grabs (preferably HP or EX versions). It only takes one crush counter and power bomb to shake most Akumas. Forget about jumping in, though. Guy is a fortress.
I can play a few; I sent you an invite.
Just got into a lobby with Scrafty. We can invite you after this match if you don't mind being in a 3 man lobby.
EDIT: Actually, gimme a sec and I'll accept your invite. This is really laggy.
I just disbanded my lobby. I'll recreate it, then.
GGs Scrafty, but those were pretty laggy on my end. It's weird too, since I'm pretty sure we've had smooth games before. I'm gonna try my luck with Flux.
ScraftyDevil
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Yeah, that's super weird. The games we played previously were before I got fibre optic internet too so it's not like either of us downgraded between now and then...
lucebuce12
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Something something left behind.
Nemesis121
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Got matched with a Brazilian lag fest, then another cunt with no flag, cunt with no flag was worse, game freezing lag for both players, give me fucking region selection pls...SF4 had region selection...
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