sixteen-bit
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Even better.
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Street Fighter V |OTVIIII| New Generation - Fighting Game Is Something So Great
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Even better.
lucebuce12
Member
The best part about the Season pass is that you have no idea who the next character is at least 1-2 weeks before they're released because that's when they tell you who they are.
We might have an idea of Menat now because of Ed's story mode, but Zeku is a COMPLETLE unknown who we could never have predicted were it not for leaks.
And you can't use a "wait and see" strategy with them because you don't get your FM refunded if you buy the Season pass later on.
We might have an idea of Menat now because of Ed's story mode, but Zeku is a COMPLETLE unknown who we could never have predicted were it not for leaks.
And you can't use a "wait and see" strategy with them because you don't get your FM refunded if you buy the Season pass later on.
TheSpoiler
Member
Nocturnowl
Member
Or more accurately in current Capcom's case, a bunch of screens of pre order incentives/advertising the season pass and copyrights.
We are out of oil.
What if we get Remy instead?
sixteen-bit
Member
AVAILABLE NOW!*
*referencing the game they released in February 2016, not the DLC they are promoting in the trailer.
Man , I would actually love to have Hakkan back , I troll picked him in 4 because my buddy also hated fighting him but I ended up enjoying that play style
Also, I forgot to ask; can anyone pull up a few Cammy replays of mine to give constructive criticism? My ID is MechaX0.
Cammy is not a perfect fit for me ATM, but I think I am getting a little bit used to the flow of things, at least in the Bronze league. At this point my main problem is lack of matchup experience and frame data to know when it's my turn, and to confirm better so I am not doing botched spirals.
Cammy is not a perfect fit for me ATM, but I think I am getting a little bit used to the flow of things, at least in the Bronze league. At this point my main problem is lack of matchup experience and frame data to know when it's my turn, and to confirm better so I am not doing botched spirals.
Turbanator
Member
I'd take an MK guest before Ingrid.
Hell, I'd take that crapped salmon from Tekken 3 over Ingrid.
Hell, I'd take that crapped salmon from Tekken 3 over Ingrid.
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
Then that would be dope as fuck.
The Lone Dragon
Member
Right, because showing things before they're finished has worked so well for Capcom recently...
Today's audience doesn't appreciate the concept of "work in progress", as seen by the reaction to MvCi and Shenmue III. (especially with regards to Capcom)
Other companies drop mystery season passes, and no one seems to mind. Capcom sees that, and so here we are.
Season Passes are all about preventing consumers from making informed purchasing decisions. Tekken and IJ2 are doing the same thing as SFV is doing.
If Season Passes exhaustively described what was in the actual Season Pass then their sales would fall dramatically. I'm not even talking about just fighting games but any game. People would skip the filler DLC in games like Fallout 4 and just get the meaty DLC.
I don't know if I prefer SFV's method of advertising their Season Pass because 1) not knowing the characters is potentially hype (in theory because Capcom is leakier than the Titanic) and 2) if there's bad news about the character choices I want the Band-Aid ripped off as soon as possible. I mean, getting FM back would be a nice consolation but they specifically don't do that so you just cave in and buy the pass.
The whole industry is built on hype. If everyone was rational no one would pre-order and they'd only buy months after release when a critical consensus has been finalized and the game has dropped in price. Hype is all about selling the potential of a game to a consumer, not selling an actual product.
Side note: I like buying SFV's season passes because, moreso than any other SF game, each character is fun. Fucking around in training, doing trials, earning FM, etc. is all fun with the new characters even if I never main them. I really feel like they nailed the uniqueness of every cast member in this game despite the game's overall failings.
Oh, so you're the reason capcoms been fucking up
They can show character art at least.
I don't know if that would have helped S2.
"In addition to Akuma, remember all those characters you desperately want in SFV? Here's none of them!"
You think characters a few weeks from release are going to be in an unshowable state?
The lone dragon doesn't think anything except what his capcom masters tell him to
But also Menat is probably not in a few weeks
lucebuce12
Member
I think the only reason they announced the S1 characters before their release was because they were all in the story mode anyway.
Why wouldn't she be? they end of sept is a few weeks. When the drop her, you really think Zeku will be in an unshowable state even tho he releases less than 2 months after here?
Let's say they're not, they can still tease the character like the did Bison in Nash's trailer.
https://youtu.be/kiss8gcqXoU?t=1m22s
edit: I'm just asking for at least a tease of the next character after word.
They can show artwork for all 6 characters at the beginning of a season no problem, so that's not even a question.
Both seasons kind of had the same reveal.
Season 1: Before the game even launched the PC beta was datamined revealing every Season 1 characters.
Season 2: Before Season 2 was even revealed a leaker correctly leaked every Season 2 character.
Granted, Capcom caved after the datamining and confirmed the names of S1 fighters (but nothing else) whereas S2 is more of a open secret.
Regardless, I'd prefer names but everything else a secret. Every veteran reveal was exciting because SFV often dramatically revised the characters.
sixteen-bit
Member
Also, they were leaked.
lucebuce12
Member
By far the simplest thing they can do without having to explicitly spoil the next character would be at the end of the trailer, to show the Capcpom logo being affected by the moveset/type of power that the next character has.
- Like for Kolin, they show the Capcpom logo being covered in ice.
- For Ed, they show the Capcpom logo being covered with Psycho Power.
- For Abigairu-Kun, they show the second C in Capcpom not being there originally but having a "falling sound" get louder and louder for 4 seconds before the C falls down from above (his grab)
- For Menat, they could have her fireball or whatever the fuck she has revolving around the logo before wandering off.
- For Zeku, they could I don't even know what the fuck this guy will do. Throw a Nike sponsorship in there or something?
Well yeah, but the announcement was planned anyway.
Turbanator
Member
FWIW, I've been told every S2 character has been done since like December iirc.
Done as in models and animation I suppose
Really? So what, do they have all of S3 done, too by now?
If this is true I wouldn't be TOO surprised because I assumed the S1 characters were probably ready by launch. The story mode versions were like 99% complete.
lucebuce12
Member
This is all pointing towards a SSFV.
#BelieveinCapcpom
But seriously, the Season Pass would be a lot better option if you could get a FM refund. Even F2P games do this. Paladins refunds the gold you spent on heroes if you pay for the pack that has all the heroes".
#BelieveinCapcpom
But seriously, the Season Pass would be a lot better option if you could get a FM refund. Even F2P games do this. Paladins refunds the gold you spent on heroes if you pay for the pack that has all the heroes".
Paxxon
sixteen-bit
Member
Shitcom
That's actually a good point. Goddamnit, I'm getting hopeful again.
SNK
sixteen-bit
Member
Well SNK did poach Neo_G form Campcom
TheSpoiler
Member
Yeah I'm thinking it's more of a "models and such were done but maybe not all of the moves/balance/additional pieces of content" situation. FWIW the season pass isn't something you should fuck with unless you trust the company and the content otherwise wait for the DLC to drop and then go in.
I don't mind them not showing them off but some better hints would be nice. Since they aren't as frequent en masse like other titles such as NRS games might as well keep the hype going.
lucebuce12
Member
Tekken 7 season pass was at least better since they specified
(a) that you're saving 5$ by buying the season pass as compared to ala carte
(b) the timeline for all 3 content drops
(c) that there would be 2 characters and both would be guests.
(d) announced one of the characters at least 4-5 months beforehand.
(a) that you're saving 5$ by buying the season pass as compared to ala carte
(b) the timeline for all 3 content drops
(c) that there would be 2 characters and both would be guests.
(d) announced one of the characters at least 4-5 months beforehand.
I guess. I mean, I bought both SFV and T7 season passes so I don't think either implementation is bad.
(a) That info is available but yeah, I guess Capcom should have specified because the savings are pretty huge. A Season Pass is $30 and all of that content by itself is $60 ($64 for S1)
(b) But it's very vague (seasons of the year) whereas SFV had some rough outlines they missed. Will see if T7 misses a date because the first DLC was dated August 2017.
(c) When they announced S2 they said Akuma + 5 new characters. They could have specified what qualifies as "new" but it was mostly clear.
(d) That one is fair but Geese's announcement was still 1.5 months after launch of T7. I guess the biggest difference is that T7 hasn't released any Season Pass content yet and announced two of three packs. SFV announced 1 "pack" (character + costume) out of 5 before you could buy the pass.
Dat sauce sure is reliably
lucebuce12
Member
The Tekken Bowl mode is coming in September so it kinda already did lol.
Both season pass implementations are still season passes at the end of the day but at least I don't feel "starved" for information as I do with the Capcpom season passes.
To be fair no one even pointed out that comment until (I think) Ed was out.
Turbanator
Member
This is true.
So did that guy leak anyone but Sagat and Sakura for S3? It's about that time last year he revealed the entire season.
Comcept
lucebuce12
Member
Comcast
Turbanator
Member
Idk, ask that Finnish retailer, thr German one, or Shinkendo.
Two months early, bro.
But you were hyping up gamescom, I mean it was just a few pages ago homie. 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Turbanator
Member
Because that's what made the most sense. It's the last event before the actual anniversary.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
People don't like it when supposed insiders speculate without making it clear what is their own speculation and what is leaked info.