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[cajunator]

There are certain members of GAF who say that Fumoffu is all you need. These people are charlatans who are no doubt in cahoots with the ne'erdowells who insist you skip ZZ Gundam.

Fumoffu is a fine banquet on its own but as I have learned FMP is an entirely different course.

i've tried... and found the first 20 episode hella boring... maybe 1 or 2 funny moments in the entire 7 hours of watching...
I am gonna sit down and read the manga some day when I catch up on some others I read in hopes that I can get to some point where it gets better (and then pick up the anime from there) since it's so praised... but currently it being well regarded makes about as much sense to me as gangnam style being the most popular video on youtube.... I just don't get it at all and don't see why it's talked about at all.

I think if you dontl ike it at that point it might not be for you. Its like Galaxy angel,. Either its your kind of comedy or it isnt.

In what other show is a gross bug thing super moe and shy and a main character falls in love with it?

Spoiler

I'm setting this up for sassy comments on romance anime please do deliver animegaf

Wait what is this?

Was it this.

If it is, this scene killed me with laughter. Best moe bug ever.

Oh god. I just found a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHvTtUiieOY
That was pretty hilarious I have to say.

 

[BluWacky]

Terror in Resonance 03
I hate the way this show is structured. Characters I don't care about operate inside vacuums, their paths crossing only through muddled online messages that fail to entertain or push the story forward well.

Is this a "general" hatred of this kind of storytelling, leaving aside the online messages part? I enjoy the "tease" of when the various plotlines will finally intersect. For instance in Madlax (not the pinnacle of entertainment, admittedly) much of the series was about seemingly unconnected plotlines being drawn together which was entertaining in itself. The distance between two different plotlines in Terror in Resonance is part of what I like about it - I want to see how it all ties together effectively. My main concern , as I think I've mentioned previously, is that Watanabe won't manage to do this with Lisa's character in particular.

 

[/XX/]

Jarmel, don't forget to watch the Ani＊Kuri15 short by Mr. Shinkai... masterpiece right there!

I could swear I was told it looked so rough because it was almost literally a one man production.

I think so. I remember there was an interview thing with it where Shinkai said he worked on this alone using his computer and some digital drawing software.

Done in seven months using a Power Mac G4 of the time, as explained on one of his interviews:

2D Animation in the Digital Era: Interview with Japanese Director Makoto Shinkai - Tested
http://www.tested.com/art/movies/44...a-interview-japanese-director-makoto-shinkai/

Following the steps of early proponents (like Hisashi Ezura) of using in the workflow Adobe After Effects with custom plugins instead of the entire RETAS!PRO suite that is very usual inside the Japanese animation industry really paid of in the end, judging by the reception.

 

[NaDannMaGoGo]

The shameful things you do during semester breaks...

Knights of Sidonia 02-12

So yeah, for some reason I binge watched this shit in no time. I guess it wasn't too, too boring because the plot at least kept moving forward but... other than that...

I think there isn't a single redeeming quality about this. Maybe some of the background art and the setting with those humongous 'Seed Ships'.

I hated the...

• visuals
• soundtrack and overall sound effects (so much buzzing noise, what the fuck)
• characters
• mechs
• writing, especially in regards to character deaths and harem elements
• battles

Deserving of special credits are the fucking bear lady (like... why is that even a thing?), Kunato who's part of the top pilots but risks humanity's or at least their seed ship's odds of survival because of minor jealousy, some of the worst use of flashbacks I've ever seen and, at last, the blushing. I kid you not, that blushing looked so awful with their CGI that I kept asking myself "if you can't even do blushing right in CGI, why use this for anything at all for crying out loud!"

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Terror in Resonance 03
I hate the way this show is structured. Characters I don't care about operate inside vacuums, their paths crossing only through muddled online messages that fail to entertain or push the story forward well. At best character motivation is revealed through blunt and unnecessary exchanges that flatly amount to "bombs haunted me and my parents in the past!". It is impossible to imagine anything cogent or thoughtful about the delicate themes being dealt with here coming together later in the show's life.

I imagine that it being the first full episode we got with this new main character they wanted to get out his batman syndrome now. Before this episode it seemed like his characterization would be subtle. Well see coming next episodes.

 

[dimb]

Is this a "general" hatred of this kind of storytelling, leaving aside the online messages part? I enjoy the "tease" of when the various plotlines will finally intersect. For instance in Madlax (not the pinnacle of entertainment, admittedly) much of the series was about seemingly unconnected plotlines being drawn together which was entertaining in itself. The distance between two different plotlines in Terror in Resonance is part of what I like about it - I want to see how it all ties together effectively. My main concern , as I think I've mentioned previously, is that Watanabe won't manage to do this with Lisa's character in particular.

I think bringing together seemingly unrelated storylines is fine, but I will always question why the story is being told from multiple perspectives. Each individual thread is inherently weaker, so if they aren't working cooperatively or drawing parallels from an early stage then it all seems fairly pointless. The third episode of Terror fixates around the cop character, but what does the check in with the stories other characters achieve outside of reminding the viewer that they exist? Lisa's mom is still delusional and thinks people are maracas. Glasses terrorist guy still has borderline sepia tone flashbacks about immoral testing. These characters can't feel complete when they exist only to slavishly serve the inevitably preachy ideals the show is building towards.

 

[Basileus777]

Tokyo Ghoul 3
This show is really just awful. It has reached Zetman levels of disjointedness.

 

[Caesnd]

Jarmel, don't forget to watch the Ani・Kuri15 short by Mr. Shinkai... masterpiece right there!



Done in seven months using a Power Mac G4 of the time, as explained on one of his interviews:

2D Animation in the Digital Era: Interview with Japanese Director Makoto Shinkai - Tested
http://www.tested.com/art/movies/44...a-interview-japanese-director-makoto-shinkai/

Following the steps of early proponents (like Hisashi Ezura) of using in the workflow Adobe After Effects with custom plugins instead of the entire RETAS!PRO suite that is very usual inside the Japanese animation industry really paid of in the end, judging by the reception.

This is sort of a tangent, but I truly believe that if some worthwhile investments were to be made into the progress of the comfortability and tactility of technology products used in Japanese animation, that it would be a huge boon for everyone, both in regards to productivity and profitability.

The usability of digital mediums is severely hampered by how convoluted they are compared to tried and trusted traditional methods, and making a transition is a very cumbersome thing that in most cases just isn't worth it yet.

The anime industry, whom I would argue could benefit the most out of these sort of changes, is unfortunately not very high on the priority list for many technological companies such as Wacom, Autodesk and Adobe etc.

 

[cajunator]

Just get bravely default. It's a steal, there's like 4 games of content in it.

I loves that avatar

Good choice.

TERRIBLE CHOICE

RWBY Season 2 - 01

Sooooooo glad this show is back! Food fight scene was fucking amazing. Even if you're not a fan of the show I would definitely recommend checking it out.

Can't wait to see what happens this season, time to get on the best ship!



#TeamWhiteRose

Rubyyyyyyyyyyy
Shes so cute. I really must draw her with cat ears sometime.

You seem to puke as lot Wonzo. Might I suggest a change in diet?

Soon to be anime though. Getting an adaptation later this year.

Anime continues to deliver.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

People who hate steins gate need to be rounded off.

 

[Shard]

Tokyo Ghoul 3
This show is really just awful. It has reached Zetman levels of disjointedness.

I am trying to figure out which is the worse adaptation, Tokyo Ghoul or Tokyo ESP.

 

[cajunator]

People who hate steins gate need to be rounded off.

They just dont understand.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

I am trying to figure out which is the worse adaptation, Tokyo Ghoul or Tokyo ESP.

Tokyo ghoul at the very least is hilarious with the reactions and writing. ESP was boring and convoluted and needed to die. What a boring show.

 

[NaDannMaGoGo]

As I was mentioning the sound design in Knights of Sidonia, here's a real gem from episode one.

[NSFW]

why is pretty much everyone moaning

That photosynthesizing and changing clothes must be really, really arousing over there in Sidonia.

 

[/XX/]

This is sort of a tangent, but I truly believe that if some worthwhile investments were to be made into the progress of the comfortability and tactility of technology products used in Japanese animation, that it would be a huge boon for everyone, both in regards to productivity and profitability.

The usability of digital mediums is severely hampered by how convoluted they are compared to tried and trusted traditional methods, and making a transition is a very cumbersome thing that in most cases just isn't worth it yet.

The anime industry, whom I would argue could benefit the most out of these sort of changes, is unfortunately not very high on the priority list for many technological companies such as Wacom, Autodesk and Adobe etc.

Exactly, and thankfully the latest one-man army artists that are many Japanese independent animators can adapt much more rapidly to that situation than the sometimes slow to react big ol' animation studios (like many other big Japanese companies too).

As an example, I find significant how precisely one of the big suppliers you mention as is Wacom uses a rising star like Hiroyasu Ishida (tete) as a public face to promote their products on the industry. He is another person who was born as an artist already using the all-digital workflow as his realm, and has been accustomed to that complexity like it is second nature. His accomplishments show how powerful that learning process from the early beginnings could be for anyone working on Japanese animation.

 

[Quasar]

People who hate steins gate need to be rounded off.

I'll take that under advisement. Though I didn't hate it, that would mean I actually had an emotional response to it. Or the little I saw of it.

 

[cajunator]

wasnt Cencoroll done by one guy?

 

[Admiral Woofington]

I'll take that under advisement. Though I didn't hate it, that would mean I actually had an emotional response to it. Or the little I saw of it.

If you didn't get past the first half then you haven't seen why people like it. First half is basically them setting up the characters, setting and situation. It's basically a slice of life with quirky characters. Second half of the show is a pretty damn entertaining Sci fi and all the threads begin to be connected. The start of the second half is marked by a really obvious event too.

 

[Quasar]

Finally saw Voices of a Distant Star. Loved it. Generated plenty of feels at the distance separating them. For some reason it made me think of an issue of the comic Astro City where a persons wife is erased from the timeline due to superhero shenanigans, though the husband alone kept all his memories of his now never existed wife.

 

[cajunator]

Finally saw Voices of a Distant Star. Loved it. Generated plenty of feels at the distance separating them. For some reason it made me think of an issue of the comic Astro City where a persons wife is erased from the timeline due to superhero shenanigans, though the husband alone kept all his memories of his now never existed wife.

When I think of truly depressing anime situations, VOADS is way up there. Incredibly thought provoking situation.

 

[/XX/]

wasnt Cencoroll done by one guy?

Yeah, I think it was what could be considered a 'solo work' (certain assistance is in tow for a production at that level, though).

 

[Turin Turambar]

Terror in Resonance 03

It was a slow episode. Girl's life sucks, her mom is cray cray and she is bulllied, we get it. The riddle part, which in theory it should be a higher tension part with more thrills, dangers and surprises, was actually boring to watch, the audience can't really guess the solution and even the part where the police guess it is uninteresting (the writer/God just determines Detective-san knows a fucking lot about mythology and has a later revelation talking to fatty-san, done). The intentions of two terrorists are still in the dark, so ehh, makes their scenes also not very interesting. I suppose they are searching for someone very smart in the security forces in a very roundabout way?

 

[Quasar]

If you didn't get past the first half then you haven't seen why people like it. First half is basically them setting up the characters, setting and situation. It's basically a slice of life with quirky characters. Second half of the show is a pretty damn entertaining Sci fi and all the threads begin to be connected. The start of the second half is marked by a really obvious event too.

Oh ok. I think I saw only 1/2 episodes just like Chaos;Head (that I thought was just bad). Which is why I still haven't seen Robotics;Notes despite the title making me interested.

 

[Chariot]

Well finally an anime break Frozen's daily streak(though it will still win in weekly sales)

Yay! I guess!

The shameful things you do during semester breaks...

Knights of Sidonia 02-12

So yeah, for some reason I binge watched this shit in no time. I guess it wasn't too, too boring because the plot at least kept moving forward but... other than that...

I think there isn't a single redeeming quality about this. Maybe some of the background art and the setting with those humongous 'Seed Ships'.

I hated the...

• visuals
• soundtrack and overall sound effects (so much buzzing noise, what the fuck)
• characters
• mechs
• writing, especially in regards to character deaths and harem elements
• battles

Deserving of special credits are the fucking bear lady (like... why is that even a thing?), Kunato who's part of the top pilots but risks humanity's or at least their seed ship's odds of survival because of minor jealousy, some of the worst use of flashbacks I've ever seen and, at last, the blushing. I kid you not, that blushing looked so awful with their CGI that I kept asking myself "if you can't even do blushing right in CGI, why use this for anything at all for crying out loud!"

Thank you very much, you erased the last regret of mine that I didn't Moans of Sidonia.

People who hate steins gate need to be rounded off.

They just need education. We must help them, not shun them.

I am trying to figure out which is the worse adaptation, Tokyo Ghoul or Tokyo ESP.

I can't speak for Tokyo Ghoul, but I read the Tokyo ESP manga and couldn't barely connect to the first episode and kept screaming at my monitor in the second. I am pretty sure that I punch a dog in the third.

wasnt Cencoroll done by one guy?

Technically yes, but I think he had more help from others than Shinkai with Voice of the Distand Stars.

Oh ok. I think I saw only 1/2 episodes just like Chaos;Head (that I thought was just bad). Which is why I still haven't seen Robotics;Notes despite the title making me interested.

Stay away from Robotic;Notes. Chaots;Heäd is ok, as long as you stop by episode 7. but Robotic;Notes is just a pile of disappointed with nice songs. Buy the OST and stay happy.

 

[BluWacky]

If you didn't get past the first half then you haven't seen why people like it. First half is basically them setting up the characters, setting and situation. It's basically a slice of life with quirky characters. Second half of the show is a pretty damn entertaining Sci fi and all the threads begin to be connected. The start of the second half is marked by a really obvious event too.

Did you watch the show as it aired? I tried to. Apologies for being repetitive, but all the shitty otaku dialogue and VN boiler plate characterisations put me off in the first few episodes. Okarin and his fat friend were the worst kind of nerd (speaking as an enormous nerd myself), the childhood friend character has silly vocal affectations, and then I got to Feyris NyanNyan and gave up. Other than people who'd played the visual novel saying "omg it gets amazing" (which is like trusting someone praising a light novel...), I had nothing to go on but the dreadful desaturated art and otaku-tastic characters.

For all of Robotics;Notes being rather boring, it manages to go a bit longer before introducing the super genius hacker girl that speaks in memes.

How do people "get past the first half"? We're running into the usual Gintama/One Piece trap of "just watch this show you don't like very much for three to six hours and THEN you'll like it!".

 

[cajunator]

Oh ok. I think I saw only 1/2 episodes just like Chaos;Head (that I thought was just bad). Which is why I still haven't seen Robotics;Notes despite the title making me interested.

Chaos Head is terrible but its great comedy
Robotcs;Notes is pretty good and it has Aki <3

 

[Quasar]

When I think of truly depressing anime situations, VOADS is way up there. Incredibly thought provoking situation.

Doubly so I guess because of the now pretty large timegap should they ever reunite.

 

[Chariot]

Chaos Head is terrible but its great comedy
Robotcs;Notes is pretty good and it has Aki <3

Aki and for that matter all characters were alright, but Robotic,Notes just forgot to show important plotpoints, which made the finale a pile of random convinient deus ex machinas.

 

[cajunator]

Aki and for that matter all characters were alright, but Robotic,Notes just forgot to show important plotpoints, which made the finale a pile of random convinient deus ex machinas.

the ending did leave something to be desired but I enjoyed the journey (and Akiho)

 

[jgminto]

Robotics;Notes suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks! What a total letdown that show was...

 

[Caesnd]

Exactly, and thankfully the latest one-man army artists that are many Japanese independent animators can adapt much more rapidly to that situation than the sometimes slow to react big ol' animation studios (like many other big Japanese companies too).

As an example, I find significant how precisely one of the big suppliers you mention as is Wacom uses a rising star as Hiroyasu Ishida (tete) as a public face to promote their products on the industry. He is another person who was in born as an artist using the all-digital workflow as his realm, and has been accustomed to that complexity as a second nature. His accomplishments show how powerful that learning process from the early beginnings could be for anyone working on Japanese animation.

Yes, I am an avid admirer of art created from limited assets and with a narrow focus, and I agree that the ones who have managed to embrace the digital media fully have produced some amazing work, but even so it is indeed in how unlimited and wide it is that makes it hard to approach for lots of creative individuals, whom grew up with the pad and pencil.

I know several amazing draftsmen and artists who I know would make amazing digital work if only the technology would allow them to do so. Things that just their traditional methods would not allow them to do. Nevertheless, the fineness and malleability of a pencil or brush on paper is infinitely more precise than even a Cintiq is for now, and people who focus on the minute changes of a stroke will have it much harder to adapt as opposed to people who work in more broad and rough manner.

Hiroyasu Ishida touched upon that it seems a bit in the interview you linked, and how more advanced technology has helped incorporate his methodology into a whole new realm of possibilites( that is, again, the tablet vs drawing on screen comparison), while also streamlining a previously complex workflow into a much simpler one.

I'm thinking about the logical next step, where the analog mindset can be allowed to truly intermingle with the multifaceted nature Digital. 3D elements, vector graphics, as well the plethora of options of filters, layer options and such that are easily applicable in most commercial applications even today, just exposed to a new crowd.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Did you watch the show as it aired? I tried to. Apologies for being repetitive, but all the shitty otaku dialogue and VN boiler plate characterisations put me off in the first few episodes. Okarin and his fat friend were the worst kind of nerd (speaking as an enormous nerd myself), the childhood friend character has silly vocal affectations, and then I got to Feyris NyanNyan and gave up. Other than people who'd played the visual novel saying "omg it gets amazing" (which is like trusting someone praising a light novel...), I had nothing to go on but the dreadful desaturated art and otaku-tastic characters.

For all of Robotics;Notes being rather boring, it manages to go a bit longer before introducing the super genius hacker girl that speaks in memes.

How do people "get past the first half"? We're running into the usual Gintama/One Piece trap of "just watch this show you don't like very much for three to six hours and THEN you'll like it!".

As it aired it mightve been more difficult to watch, unless you were in a thread like this and others kept watching and could confirm the show got good.

But agreed on all the VN crap at first. It's very hard to recommend this show to friends who haven't watched anime for a while and aren't used to how Otaku it can be at points. The fat guy is literally the fat nerd friend. Even has that typical fat guy anime voice where speaking sounds like a chore. The childhood friend with her catchphrase are annoying. Okarin/houououin is better in the sense that there aren't many male leads in anime who are as goofy as him. So a break from the "typical high school kid" lead was great.

As a fan of Sci fi the second half is great and it's where Houououin shines as a character. It's when you see he's just a regular guy who happens to have out of the box ideas. That he's by no means a genius. The time travelling aspect of the show is really well thought out as well. I think the last film I watched with that much thought put into it is Primer (great film btw). I know it's similar to Gintama recommendations but I do say it's true. I think these are 2 of very few shows I can tell people that a large portion of the first half doesn't give justice to how good the show gets. I mean there are other shows like Gurren Lagann where I largely prefer the second half but the first is still good.

 

[Chariot]

the ending did leave something to be desired but I enjoyed the journey (and Akiho)

I don't know, I did enjoy all aspects of the journey, the mystery was interesting, the characters were enjoyable, the connections to Steins;Gate and Chaos;Head and I could feel the drama

Spoiler

The sickness of our two protagonists and Mizukas death.

But in the end it just didn'T fit together. I think they miscalculated a few episodes. The last third was a giant mess.

Robotics;Notes suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks! What a total letdown that show was...

I disappointed me too. But it did had an awesome OST and good, I enjoyed the Openings, especially the second.

 

[AmethystEnd]

Yeah... I'm inherently just not a fan of mecha (I've said before; very few exceptions) but I watched Robotics;Notes because I loved Steins;Gate.

I wished I hadn't.

I'm more interested in Occultic;Nine. I wonder if that'll get adapted at some point.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

I have the strangest urge to rewatch anastasia. Was that actually a good movie or are my nostalgia goggles clouding me?

 

[duckroll]

~Heart don't fail me now, courage don't desert me~

 

[cajunator]

I have the strangest urge to rewatch anastasia. Was that actually a good movie or are my nostalgia goggles clouding me?

Anastasia is an aweeeeeeeesome Don BLuth movie. I has it on bluray.

Yeah... I'm inherently just not a fan of mecha (I've said before; very few exceptions) but I watched Robotics;Notes because I loved Steins;Gate.

I wished I hadn't.

I'm more interested in Occultic;Nine. I wonder if that'll get adapted at some point.

I have no idea what that is!

 

[AmethystEnd]

Anastasia is an aweeeeeeeesome Don BLuth movie. I has it on bluray.



I have no idea what that is!

At this point, I'm not really sure either. I heard the title over a year ago and thought it'd be a new game but then I saw this:

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-ne...ine-author-clarifies-science-adventure-status

 

[Chariot]

At this point, I'm not really sure either. I heard the title over a year ago and thought it'd be a new game but then I saw this:

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-ne...ine-author-clarifies-science-adventure-status

Man, that article thumbnail

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Man Don Bluth was like a short lived empire. The rise and fall. He has some amazing animated film under his belt. But also some major crap.

 

[AmethystEnd]

Man, that article thumbnail

...how...did I not notice that. Hot. 2lewd4me

 

[cajunator]

At this point, I'm not really sure either. I heard the title over a year ago and thought it'd be a new game but then I saw this:

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-ne...ine-author-clarifies-science-adventure-status

OOoh. I will watch that if it ever makes it to anime.

Man, that article thumbnail

Yeah I saw that. Kurisu looks AMAZING (as usual)
Also, here
http://p.twpl.jp/show/orig/KFNvM

Man Don Bluth was like a short lived empire. The rise and fall. He has some amazing animated film under his belt. But also some major crap.

He made several classic films and a few LEGENDARY ones.
Secret of Nimh is still one of the greatest movies of all time and I stand by that.

 

[AmethystEnd]

WHOA. WHOA WHOA WHOA. HOLD UP.

Sorry if old but, apparently Magic Kaito is getting his own anime in Fall 2014.

Fall is going to just fucking murder me.

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1233201

https://twitter.com/seven4869/statuses/492581306400661504

 

[MikeHattsu]

He made several classic films and a few LEGENDARY ones.
Secret of Nimh is still one of the greatest movies of all time and I stand by that.

Make sure you never get the urge to check out Secret of Nimh 2

 

[cajunator]

Make sure you never get the urge to check out Secret of Nimh 2

What are you talking about? such a thing doesnt exist ^^

 

[Admiral Woofington]

I didn't even know there was a secret of nimh 2 and my curiosity might destroy me. Curiosity killed the Woofdawg.

 

[Chariot]

...how...did I not notice that. Hot. 2lewd4me

The two are just two nerds like us, imagine them being the gaffers hidden behind MikeHattsu and cajun.

Yeah I saw that. Kurisu looks AMAZING (as usual)
Also, here
http://p.twpl.jp/show/orig/KFNvM

Oh thanks for that. Looks amazing.

WHOA. WHOA WHOA WHOA. HOLD UP.

Sorry if old but, apparently Magic Kaito is getting his own anime in Fall 2014.

Fall is going to just fucking murder me.

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1233201

https://twitter.com/seven4869/statuses/492581306400661504

Nice, I can at least try to keep up with that. Conan broke me long ago

I didn't even know there was a secret of nimh 2 and my curiosity might destroy me. Curiosity killed the Woofdawg.

Just watch the Nostalgia Critic Review of Secret of NIMH 2 and be done with it. No need to kill yourself.

 

[MikeHattsu]

I didn't even know there was a secret of nimh 2 and my curiosity might destroy me. Curiosity killed the Woofdawg.

Just don't. It's terrible. Had to turn it off after 5 minutes.

 

[cajunator]

I didn't even know there was a secret of nimh 2 and my curiosity might destroy me. Curiosity killed the Woofdawg.

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONT
Please dont. Just watch anastasia twice or something.
You have so much to live for doggie

 

[TUSR]

How about Wolf Children?

Ugh that made me cry so much

It's on my list. Yolo