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Summer 2014 Anime |OT3| where everyone watches doremi for hito
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So I heard a God Eater anime got announced recently. I know its a PSP/Vita series that is a bit of a Monster Hunter clone. I know nothing about it aside that some chick with a huge sword, a plaid skirt and gratuitous underboob is a main character. The only reason this is on my radar is because ufotable is doing it so its near guaranteed to at least look nice. Is there any other reason I should look forward to it? Interesting plot/premise/characters?
Jex
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I deliberately don't show episode 1 to anyone who is watching Berserk.
I don't know much about God Eater's story either, but I think Maaya Sakamoto voices one o the characters who's in both games?
Femmeworth
Banned
Probably not. Then again, we know next to nothing about the anime including the creative staff. I don't know how story heavy the games are so they might actually have some creative freedom.
Wait shit, they announced the staff? Who's directing? I feel so out of the loop.
Well, the same thing happens in the manga.
Jex
Member
That's not surprising because the manga starts out kind of crappy. It's not like the anime even begins to adapt that particular arc either, it just takes a small piece of it (while changing some of the details).
Femmeworth
Banned
Sorry, that's not what I meant.
Well, the very first page of the manga is a really dumb, misogynistic, and cliched pulp fantasy scenario that doesn't fit at all with Guts' later established character, LOL.
Oh.
If it's just Ufotable, it's really a toss up I think. Especially since it's an adaptation of a videogame. Their Tales Of stuff is pretty bland out of what I've seen of them. On the other hand the God Eater FMVs they worked on were directed by Hirao. I dunno if he'll want to work on a TV series adaptation though. With all their key staff from F/Z working on F/SN too (and presumably Heaven's Feel after that), I really want to know who's working on God Eater.
A Black Falcon
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That's good news. Better animation would be nice, yeah... the show obviously has no budget at all. :lol And on the note of budget, episodes longer than two minutes each would be pretty cool too!
It's about power and control, first. You are right on this point. Power, control, and testosterone-fueled violence. I can't understand how you could somehow miss that every single one of the situations you described fit the definition perfectly, though!
So she does something he doesn't like, and he beats her for it. Power and control. Disgusting behavior that others should speak out about, but don't. What are you saying, that she "deserved it" because she was doing things he didn't like? You can't force someone to obey you through physical violence, that is badly dated thinking not acceptable today. We have laws about this kind of thing now. This is also why most schools today do not allow corporal punishment. And yes, that you see teachers hitting their students sometimes in anime is also something quite disturbing.
Of course, you're also continuing to ignore that his real reason for focusing on her isn't just that she's one of the leads, it's because of his buried feelings for her. If someone else was the lead, I don't think he'd react that same way; the idea is that he's attacking her because he likes her and wants her to focus more on the club, as he wishes, and not do what she wants... and maybe focus on him that way, instead of those girls, I would guess.
Yeah, so now she's not only doing things he dislikes, she's SAYING silly things too? This is perfect grounds for physical assault and causing injury!
On a related note, the whole episode was really stupid anyway, because of course the sane thing to do is, at some point, clue her in to who writes that manga. I know they're all keeping it secret, but Nozaki earlier on said that he'd tried to tell people but they hadn't believed him. Maybe she wouldn't have believed him, or them, but they don't even try, they just leave her in the dark, causing an unnecessary situation caused solely by a lack of information. I know stories love this kind of convenience, but it's bad writing.
It's textbook cases of domestic violence.
No, it's really not like that. Before you mentioned tsundere violence. That's usually done to a man who has either intentionally done something wrong, like peeking in the bath, or inadvertently dome something wrong, like falling in there by accident, as happens all the time in some series. So she hits him for that. I don't like the violence, but that's a different scene from this. Hori throwing things at Kashima and injuring her because she misunderstands why he had that manga in his bag is not at all like generic comedic tsundere violence! And also, of course, gender DOES matter, you can't ignore it. Of course violence against men is a problem, but in the real world, in relationships, it's violence against women that is far worse.
She IS a woman, so this doesn't matter one way or the other. But anyway, I think you are wrong, as I said earlier; Hori doesn't behave that way towards anyone else for a reason. It's a disgustingly sexist way of showing that he likes her in this awful "comedic" way.
And of course, she doesn't mind the violence and excuses it away with dumb reasons, but that's to be expected.
Note how all of your examples are guys. And I didn't like most of those, either. I actually kind of like tsunderes as characters, apart from the violence part... (Despite the overdone hitting-him-over-the-building violence, Naru's my favorite Love Hina girl...)
I think that the results are what they are regardless of intent, really.
No, I wouldn't say that all violence against women is automatically sexism; of course it's possible for it to be justified. But none of the situations in Nozaki-kun are anywhere REMOTELY near justified.
There I think it's presented as 'she has no idea she's doing anything wrong', which of course is quite unrealistic, but this is manga/anime, everyone's always an idiot. Anime characters...
Theonik
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Not to mention:
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=44699718
It's not a bad plan honestly!
I actually don't remember if Grifith's identity was revealed in the manga's first chapter.
FelixOrion
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phoenix296
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Recently, My Sister is Unusual 11
Bath house episode... I disliked Nisekoi's bath house episode but at least that was funny to some extent.This is just an embarrassment, this show isn't funny. It's just a bunch of awkward and unbelievable situations that lay the foundations for the relationship between imouto and onii-chan. How anyone could fall in love with all the ridiculousness in this series is beyond me.
Bath house episode... I disliked Nisekoi's bath house episode but at least that was funny to some extent.This is just an embarrassment, this show isn't funny. It's just a bunch of awkward and unbelievable situations that lay the foundations for the relationship between imouto and onii-chan. How anyone could fall in love with all the ridiculousness in this series is beyond me.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I mean, I don't think we can have a proper debate because we disagree on something very fundamental, which is that while I agree hori's weird affection for her is a part of their relationship, he doesn't get mad at her from the irritation of hiding his affection (in fact he's pretty open about it even if he doesn't realize it), it's just that he is irritated by her as a leading actress of his club. It's ok to be uncomfortable by the slapstick violence but I seriously don't think that it falls under sexism or domestic violence simply because none of it is under the context of being in a relationship other than one of a boss being irritated by a slacking employee.
I honestly think that a club president being irritated when one of his leading players play hookey or cause trouble in the club should be a pretty well understood concept. I think you can gender reverse (or make it gender neutral) that role and still make it understood.
On a different note...
Barakamon 1-3
Very good adaptation, and it captures the feeling of countryside comfort incredibly well. Dunno why people say that it took too many liberties with the source material. It's honestly pretty faithful from what I've seen.
I'm never going to watch this but have had fun reading your impressions. Looking forward to thoughts on the ending!
Spriggan
This is a really weird movie. The tone is pretty serious and the style aims for a sort of desaturated realism, and yet the plot is off-the-wall anime with ancient biblical artifacts of supreme power, secret international organizations, high school super soldiers, etc. Hirotsugu Kawasaki is a talented storyboarder and director,, and it shows here. The film is very much a sakuga-fest with tons of great action animation, especially during an early chase scene. The background art and designs are also really detailed, naturalistic, and appealing. The story loses a lot of momentum in the last third though, when it tries to get serious and we get some dated digital effects and some unnecessary backstory. I mean, you just can't get too serious when your movie has a scene cut like this:
accompanied by requisite ominous chorale music.
Is it worth watching? I'd say yeah, for the animation and direction alone, but don't expect an original story, or even one with a particularly satisfying conclusion.
This is a really weird movie. The tone is pretty serious and the style aims for a sort of desaturated realism, and yet the plot is off-the-wall anime with ancient biblical artifacts of supreme power, secret international organizations, high school super soldiers, etc. Hirotsugu Kawasaki is a talented storyboarder and director,, and it shows here. The film is very much a sakuga-fest with tons of great action animation, especially during an early chase scene. The background art and designs are also really detailed, naturalistic, and appealing. The story loses a lot of momentum in the last third though, when it tries to get serious and we get some dated digital effects and some unnecessary backstory. I mean, you just can't get too serious when your movie has a scene cut like this:
accompanied by requisite ominous chorale music.
Is it worth watching? I'd say yeah, for the animation and direction alone, but don't expect an original story, or even one with a particularly satisfying conclusion.
Hanayamata-END
This is my anime of the season. Beautiful artwork, incredibly cute and funny, and some excellent character growth. Everything about this show is a pure joy to experience, and I very nearly missed out on it by initially dropping it within the first five minutes. I'm so glad I came back to it.
This is my anime of the season. Beautiful artwork, incredibly cute and funny, and some excellent character growth. Everything about this show is a pure joy to experience, and I very nearly missed out on it by initially dropping it within the first five minutes. I'm so glad I came back to it.
That first episode is pretty pointless in the anime because they don't even cover the arc, only like the first 2 chapters and they still removed/changed a lot of things. I really liked the arc in the manga. Made reading Golden Age a lot better.
I believe that didn't get revealed until the end of the first arc. It's still before the flashback though.
phoenix296
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Recently, My Sister is Unusual 12 & Series Impressions
Warning: Spoilers ahead for those really care
EP 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11
Final episode impressions first... That ending has got to be the worst ending I have ever seen. At the beginning of the episode, creepy girl named Neko puts a spell on onii-chan and he does whatever the fuck he wants with no filter including groping his big bosomed childhood friend. We also get more stupid "jokes" like this.
While home alone with onii-chan, imouto is getting undressed in her room because she always seems to do that. While she is doing this, zombie sexual deviant onii-chan barges in. He leans up against her while she isn't wearing any pants and leans down to say "stop wearing those scary pantsu". He then breathes a sigh of relief and leaves. However, this moment triggers enough "happiness" for ghost girl to reach the gates to heaven and we can finally be rid of this ridiculous plot.
So ghost girl is gone, imouto no longer has to deal with scary pantsu and all is well. Some sappy music plays for the loss of a main character and imouto is feeling a bit of melancholy... WHY? This ghost has done nothing but torture you for her own perverted pleasure! Don't feel bad for her passing, be happy you are finally rid of her! But all is not well... Ghost girl shows up once again and this is sprung on the audience.
Fuck. This. Anime. Turns out they've only reached floor two so back comes the chastity belt and the haunting ghost. A "romance" that goes no where, embarrassing situation after embarrassing situation, stupid jokes that aren't funny and an ending with absolutely no pay off. This has got to be the worst ending I have ever seen to finish off one of the worst anime I have ever seen.
Series Impressions
This anime isn't worth my time to do a write up. Fuck it.
Warning: Spoilers ahead for those really care
EP 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11
Final episode impressions first... That ending has got to be the worst ending I have ever seen. At the beginning of the episode, creepy girl named Neko puts a spell on onii-chan and he does whatever the fuck he wants with no filter including groping his big bosomed childhood friend. We also get more stupid "jokes" like this.
While home alone with onii-chan, imouto is getting undressed in her room because she always seems to do that. While she is doing this, zombie sexual deviant onii-chan barges in. He leans up against her while she isn't wearing any pants and leans down to say "stop wearing those scary pantsu". He then breathes a sigh of relief and leaves. However, this moment triggers enough "happiness" for ghost girl to reach the gates to heaven and we can finally be rid of this ridiculous plot.
So ghost girl is gone, imouto no longer has to deal with scary pantsu and all is well. Some sappy music plays for the loss of a main character and imouto is feeling a bit of melancholy... WHY? This ghost has done nothing but torture you for her own perverted pleasure! Don't feel bad for her passing, be happy you are finally rid of her! But all is not well... Ghost girl shows up once again and this is sprung on the audience.
Fuck. This. Anime. Turns out they've only reached floor two so back comes the chastity belt and the haunting ghost. A "romance" that goes no where, embarrassing situation after embarrassing situation, stupid jokes that aren't funny and an ending with absolutely no pay off. This has got to be the worst ending I have ever seen to finish off one of the worst anime I have ever seen.
Series Impressions
This anime isn't worth my time to do a write up. Fuck it.
Best series impression. Look what you did Mike!
I don't recall domestic violence in Nozaki-kun. Wouldn't that require someone turning up with mysterious injuries that they blame on falling down the stair and insisting that someone is a good man and they don't actually mean to be violent and they need to be with them to help them.
A far cry from what happened in the show which was more like olololol I was late so he got well mad at me again olololol
A far cry from what happened in the show which was more like olololol I was late so he got well mad at me again olololol
MikeHattsu
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rrvv
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*scream internally*
Need Inaho somewhere
the OP is out? or you mean this ED
because we going to have black martian latter
Passive Assassin
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Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Yeah the last scene was so cruel. In fact it wasn't even like Nozaki's usual denseness but it felt like he actually knew and was teasing Chiyo. I really wish they would stop following the manga and make the anime have a more conclusive end when S2 comes.
I tried watching Guin Saga when it was airing and found it dull and cliched before dropping it, but the clips of the dub really make me want to try it again.
Passive Assassin
Member
i think i'll watch it dubbed now ... just to share in the suffering that everyone in this thread goes through.
hooooooooo-leeeeeeeeeeeeee shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
A Black Falcon
Member
At least harem protagonists don't beat the girls who like them, in most cases!
I kind of like Tom & Jerry. It's so ridiculously over-the-top, you can't take it seriously... Some episodes go too far, though. I've probably seen most of the series, it played all the time on TV for so long...
I don't think the fact that she's his lead actress has much of anything to do with it. He'd treat her the same way if she was some minor member of the club, I'm sure.
It's not just slapstick violence! Him throwing a tray at her, injuring her, then in the next scene she has bandaids on her head and says something about how she deserved it... that's not slapstick. That's violent sexism. Throwing the bag at her from the window might be sort of 'slapstick'. Maybe. But that other scene, or the stuff from their first episode? No way.
Gender-reversed, like that? I can't think of anything I've seen with something quite like this.
UltraGunner
Banned
It's your standard post-apocalyptic series where Teenagers are forced to fight monsters while inexplicably being dressed in lavishly stylish clothes. As far as MonHun clones go it's probably one of the better ones.
I know.
A Black Falcon
Member
... Uh, but I don't like lolis. Sexualizing children is wrong.
On that note...
Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya 2wei - 1-10 (all) - Yeah, it was good. Bazzett is a really tough opponent! This was better than I was expecting. I mean, I liked S1, but I remember the 2wei manga being fanservicier than the first series, and with less plot too. Well, maybe it's because of having to cut stuff to fit it into the anime -- even though this is only the first half of 2wei, I'm pretty sure some stuff is cut from the manga -- but the series, while unpleasantly creepy thanks to the "fanservice" with such young characters, isn't as bad as I remember the manga being. If they did cut some of that stuff out, that's great. Fortunately, none of the good side of this franchise -- the well-done fight sequences, the "power of friendship" victories, and such -- was cut, I don't think. The season ends with the long Bazzett fight, and it's pretty serious, and pretty good. This is a formulaic show for the most part for sure, but it's entertainingly so. Also, Illya's mother Irisviel is a more regular character through much of the season! This is awesome, as she's a great character, maybe the best in the show (it's either her or Rin!). I don't know if she was in the manga as much... but anyway, she's a character who needs to appear more. She's always entertaining and funny, and smart too.
As for Kuro, her backstory is sad and sympathetic, but she's the poster child of the worst of the stupid fanservice, so overall I can't like the character. No, anime, real siblings do not have incestuous feelings, and fanservicey stuff with characters this young is unpleasant... but as I said, there wasn't as much of that stuff as I was fearing based on the manga, so that was good. I wasn't sure if I'd actually be able to get through this or if I'd drop it, but I watched the whole thing and liked it overall. The second half of the series, focusing on Bazzett and with more Irisviel appearances, was the better part; the first part, focusing on Kuro, isn't as great. Really I probably should have dropped this franchise a long time ago because of the loli "fanservice" and incestbait parts, but I started because it was interesting to see something Fate/Stay Night related which isn't mostly about being horrendously depressing and/or incredibly sexist even by anime standards, and it is indeed that. Optimistic F/SN can exist, though this series has its issues too just like all the others do. The writing in the serious parts of Fate/Kaleid is good. If it wasn't there's no way I'd have stuck with this, but it is. And on that note, I'm kind of looking forward to 3rei's anime, if that happens; that manga's the best of the three, so far, and probably has the most serious plot, and the least fanservice, of the three serieses (1, 2wei, 3rei). I wish this was a better, non-creepy franchise, but that I haven't dropped it shows that it's not nearly as bad with that stuff as some shows are. If this franchise had tentacles or anything else like that there is no way I'd still be watching -- I still haven't watched one episode since that horrendously awful second episode of Hyperdimension Neptunia, for example.
That you even can make such comparisons says so much bad about anime/manga, of course...
Hana Yamata 8-10 - The constant manufactured drama continues! This series is obviously six parts drama and four parts moe antics, with only minimal actual dancing, but it does work. It just gets old after a while... I'm not a fan of this kind of constant annoying drama. There's always something, every time! Nothing can ever quite go all right for them. Oh well. It's a good series overall, and I'll probably keep watching.
Sabagebu 8-11 - Why is this show almost over?? The best anime of the season needs to continue! This is such a funny, funny show... sure, it's often incredibly stupid, but it's funny even more often, and it manages to make almost everything work. These four episodes all work great, for sure! Great stuff. I want more than one more episode for certain. This show has funny characters, some unique elements, and plenty of crazy comedy. I like that the main character is very definitely a flawed person, the weird quirks of each other character, and such... but just as important are the crazy scenarios they're constantly being tossed into in the airsoft matches! Whether it's a fight against old people in the Australian desert, against cat aliens, or against some somewhat obsessed fangirls, it's all great stuff. The other skits in these episodes were great as well. The long bit in ep. 11 about their mascot animal helping out that crab was so crazy, and so entertaining... yes, I really like this show. It's got no significant flaws, and plenty of strengths -- characters, comedy, decent production values, and more. I presume it'll bomb hard, because Japan never seems to like good anime...
Tokyo ESP 2-5 - This series is basically Mood Whiplash: The Show. Constantly jumping back and forth between Serious Action and Silly Comedy, Tokyo ESP isn't a show that really knows what it wants to be. Of course, having both action and comedy in one show is common in anime, but does it actually work? Episode two is the only one of these which is all comedy, but there are bits of it in the episodes after it as well, randomly mixed in with the action, the serious and quite threatening villains who sometimes are silly too, etc. How could they think that going from ep. 1 to ep. 2 was, tonally, a good idea? I might keep watching, I don't know, but this show is messed up and not very good. The characters are only okay, story isn't great, enemies are generic -- ooh, evil psychics who want to kill all the "normals" because prejudice or something, such an original plot! -- and the show, overall, isn't that great either. It's not awful, though. Just tonally dissonant and mediocre. The female protagonist is one of the better characters, but so far has only occasionally had good opportunities to show what she can do.
Seirei Tsukai no Blade Dance 3 - Average harem action/comedy/drama stuff. I saw that "twist" at the end coming a mile away. Now she'll fight the MC, the MC will win and remind her what her true feelings are, etc etc. And all because of idiotic manufactured drama the MC caused by not intervening until AFTER her
summon pet was killed!
Momo Kyun Sword 8-9 - So, ep. 8 is pure comedy... and then 9 suddenly gets somewhat serious? Who thought THAT was a good idea? Well, it wasn't. It's not TOO bad, sure, but seriously... just leave it how it was. The 'serious turn' doesn't make this kind of show better. It's mediocre enough as it is, all that does is make me want to just stop bothering with this previously amusing but dumb show.
Rail Wars 2-4 - More bad harem action, but this time with some TERRIBLE art! It's obvious that all of the budget in this show went into the train CG, not the characters, and that shows. Somehow this show is amusing despite being awful, though. It's completely and totally dumb, but it's more entertaining at it than, say, Blade Dance above. On the negative side, Japanese sexism is all over this show! For one thing, it's got constant male-gaze fanservice. Blatant stuff there. But even beyond that, seriously, in the second episode the female lead... well, first, she's that standard "strong girl who falls for the seems-weaker-but-is-stronger-really protragonist" trash writing that almost EVERY SINGLE "STRONG" ANIME FEMALE EVER IN ANY SHOW WITH ROMANCE ALWAYS FALLS INTO -- and this is a terrible, terrible stereotype which I hate. Anyway, she basically saves the day from a terrorist bomb. The other guy in their group realizes where the bomb is, then the action girl thinks of the strategy to disarm the bomb and disarms it. All MC guy does is stand around, say a few vaguely useful things, and manage to (despite his best efforts) not get them all blown up. And yet... at the end of the episode, HE gets promoted? Why? Yes, I understand why she isn't, she causes too much trouble, but he did NOTHING to deserve it apart from being the MC in a harem anime. So, so stupid. It's not until episode four that he finally does something actually useful to actually help solve one of the problems, I'd say... and even then, it was somewhat a team effort. Ugh.
Idolmaster Puchimas! S2 (all) - Season two of this was just as silly and fun as the first one was! I'd watch more of this if they make it. It's completely adorable, silly, and cute, without ever being creepy. That's sadly rare for anime.
MikeHattsu
Member
Hahaha
UltraGunner
Banned
Did they use the actors that used to dub hentai for this?
striferser
Huge Nickleback Fan
Plot is nothing to special. There's a few cool moment here and there, but nothing really stand out.
The game is good though. Bullet creation really bring the player creative side.
R_thanatos
Member
But you've actually done that , just not the summarry of it.
I dropped it at ep 7 because by then it wasn't going anyway worthwhile.
Turn out it was true.
pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
Fall season looks to be pretty dope. I dunno what to watch.
Yes. I told you in LINE lol.
I keep that site pretty happy on the regular. I dont want to think of how much I have spent over the years.
http://randomc.net/
I really like this one. Others may disagree. I never found out why.
SQUEEEEEEEEEE
Nozaki kun is no more sexist or domestic violence than other harem anime, in which by the way the MALE is the one getting beat up to shit. that is far more common in anime so on the rare occasion it happens to a girl, its not as significant. Not that any of it is right but cartoons have typically been allowed some slapstick leeway and I dont mind it for comic effect. It is a pretty tired idea though. You almost expect a tsundere character to be abusive.
I dropped it after the third. Just couldnt deal with how stupid it was. Thats rare for me but its just that awful.
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