I should also say that generally speaking there's nothing wrong with using rape/sexual assault as a plot point but you have to earn that right by instilling a certain level of seriousness and drama in your story beforehand before you deal with those kinds of issues. Sexual assault, unlike straight up killing, hasn't yet been so heavily devalued in storytelling that you can just toss it off as a kind of generic threat or look-how-evil-this-guy-is and not bringing in larger issues.
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Summer Anime 2015 |OT| SharingMana
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BassForever
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Hopefully never
After the movie no doubt.
Femmeworth
Banned
I didn't find it too heavy until the end of the season.
"Do you think it's too late for me?"
ultimatemegax
Member
It was more than that that turned me off of Space Dandy, but it's been over a year since I saw it so I can't recall a lot of details nor do I want to see it again. It wasn't just the context too.
I feel differently about the power-hungry jerk being a power-hungry jerk in episode 24 because it's the villain being unabashedly a villain there. Kidnapping Asuna from the log-outs of SAO (along with 300 other people) and trying to get her to willingly submit to him is definitely a simplistic villain move, but it's not bad other than being lazy writing. There's likely worse elements in other shows that don't get a quarter of the attention because people want to hate SAO.
(I'm not defending the creepy tentacle scene in episode 21. That's a creepy tentacle scene and I want nothing to do with that.)
BassForever
Member
*defends SAO awful rape scene, bashes Space Dandy for being offensive*
What is this I don't understand?
Joyful
Member
Bojack showing up at the ghost writer convention was what broke me.
Like I said, using sexual assault as lazy shorthand for 'look hur dur i'm evil' has a huge set of problems beyond the mere laziness of it.
Just because worse things exist doesn't make SAO less culpable.
I want more Girls und Panzer. Unexpectedly great show.
ultimatemegax
Member
Nah, I'm done. There's elements I can't defend regardless if people are using incorrect terminology.
Later.
Later.
Cornbread78
Member
See, I brought up SAO and it's been discussed for three pages now. Someone needs to link Firehawk's SAO rant post now to complete the cycle.
Whoa, Ultima changed his avi, lol.
Whoa, Ultima changed his avi, lol.
Just walk away slowly and do not make eye contact.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
SAO discussions are so tired at this point.
Madoka's last two episodes. That was because of the Earthquake I believe, not their fault, really.
Yeah, I mean, Shaft always redoes pretty much everything in the BD releases, but (except for Hana), I don't think their own production ever forced any delays. I commented on how the E7 AO delay was also probably partially out of Bones' control there. I was trying to look for stuff where it was definitely stemming from internal problems.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
There's Yatterman and Gatchaman, if you count those finales.
Attack on Titan!
If you mean the Crowds DC episode, that one slipped my mind. Though I'm not sure what the full story was there,
What happened with Yatterman? Didn't watch that show.
I remember there was the recap episode in the middle but I'm not sure if that was a delay or planned, since the series finished properly in its original April-September timeslot. I know there was some stilted animation and the infamous purple bricks near the end of the first half of the show though; forget if there was anything else.
I guess if you're talking about how every episode had about 20 animation directors working themselves sick on it, that's something I wouldn't know how to look up easily for other series though, or at least not for a lot of series at once.
super late edit: ah damn, the current season confused me and I accidentally referred to the first season of Crowds as Insight as well. Fixed now.
Not a major delay but So, I Can't Play H! had a episode delay 1 week. They aired a recap episode that week.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-08-17/future-so-i-cant-play-h-episodes-delayed-by-1-week
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-08-17/future-so-i-cant-play-h-episodes-delayed-by-1-week
I feel bad for chuckling at this.
I remember hearing some stupid rumor that Ninja Slayer originally wasn't supposed to be like that but production scheduling issues forced them into the Inferno Cop style. I haven't seen any evidence or whatever so it's probably someone taking the piss.
Honestly most shows nowadays unless they're KyoAni, barely finish on time and it's a mad rush to just put something on the screen. KLK finished hours before it was supposed to air with seemingly half the studio dead once it was out. Attack on Titan probably had people literally living at the studio when it was airing.
Right, but like AoT they still managed to show the original number of planned episodes in the season. I'm thinking more of stuff like GuP, or the ongoing God Eater, where they weren't able to broadcast everything as originally intended and need a chance to finish later.
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I guess the kind of thing I was originally thinking of really is rare enough that it might be limited to what I already found. Sounds like the madcap "working right up until just before delivery" problems are more common than I thought too.
SliceSabre
Banned
funny joke.
ending was unfinished so the last episode has a lot of missing scenes and apparently it doesn't make much sense. animators even told people to watch the ending on BD on twitter and stuff: https://twitter.com/yuyucow/status/582256919211032576
kiunchbb
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I can't believe I missed that discussion. SAO is not a show I ever want to watch again, but it was very satisfying when watching for the first time.
Just look at the internet, Kirito is the role model for so many kids out there.
He probably felt better after making a thread in GAF.
Honestly I'm not sure the current system is feasible either. There must be an insane dropout ratio among new animators because why work in an industry where you are harming your health for less than minimal pay?
Yea that was totally obvious they weren't done. They reused the OP into scenes where it didn't even make contexual sense. Just a mess altogether.
Admiral Woofington
Member
Please tell me that I'm good. Please.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Wakakozake 01-07
This is chill as fuck
Shows about eating food are good
This is chill as fuck
Shows about eating food are good
Joe Molotov
Member
Wakakozake is cute, I'm glad CR picked it up.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
You talking about pink hair? She's hardly a loli.
I'm really starting to realize that, for as much true insight as Shirobako gave us into the realities of anime production, it was still far, far too hopefully, foolishly optimistic.
I feel we got more char. dev. with Emma's romantic rival Eleanor than we did with Emma, not that I'm complaining, she went through a 2-cour character arc while Emma is still pretty much the same, we just know more about her backstory.
William slowly develops as he has to deal with the consequences of a lower class lover interest and has to address his familial problems.
Team #EleanorWasRobbed
I give it a Dennou Coil/Planetes (8/10)
Admiral Woofington
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830 dollars for that?
brb designing simple dresses.
brb designing simple dresses.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Her voicing Hana gives her a free pass for life from me
Though thats hardly expensive for a dress.
It's kind of a running joke, but Jitsu wa has a lot of those.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I actually don't know if it was a production issue or a time issue to be honest. I just remember it because of the "controversy" about here.
The final episode was basically like Gunbuster where it was all sketchy and rough because they couldn't finish it. lol
I still find it weird that in Asia, they'll use white models for fashion samples.
The only controversy I can remember was how Sentai failed to get the DC episode for their R1 release and how it was either their fault of the licensor's. Don't remember anything from when it was airing aside from the fact that the TV ending was confusing as fuck.
edit: ah, looks like hosanna explained it below.
hosannainexcelsis
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There was a half-episode clip show inserted into the front half of episode 11, so half the originally planned content of episode 12 had to be taken out and then reinserted for the BD. Now why the Director's Cut release didn't take the clip show out and restore the last two episodes to their original plan, instead including the TV version of episode 12 and then tacking on another episode that repeated half of episode 12 and only then got to the new content, thus expecting viewers to sit through the exact same content twice - that's something I've never been able to figure out.
For Tsutomu Mizushima to keep putting his heart into directing anime the way he does, he has to have a certain amount of love of the industry despite its flaws.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I never even thought to check, but I assume the final disc must be out by now.
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