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Super Mario 64 DS - Gamespot preview + movies
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I honestly don't care if the controls are somewhat complicated. I can get used to them. I can adapt to different control schemes, something that many gamers seem to have forgotten how to do.
Either way, I'll probably spend more time with the minigames than with the main quest, I bet.
Either way, I'll probably spend more time with the minigames than with the main quest, I bet.
Doesn't sound like they hate the controls, just sounds like they're trying to figure out which of the 3 controls schemes will work out best. I find it somewhat amusing that a game that taught most of us how to control characters in 3D is now revisiting that moment by perhaps teaching us how to play 3D games without an analog stick.
I don't think it'll be quite as successful, but it's an interested parallel regardless.
I don't think it'll be quite as successful, but it's an interested parallel regardless.
Spiritreaver
Member
The control problem isn't surprising, and I was expecting it to be the greatest knock for the game. I still expect that to be the case, or at least end up getting a steep learning curve.
I'm not all that worried though myself. Still plan on getting this and enjoying it. Did anyone else notice justhow much better this game looks texture-wise, in the videos, than the original? Everything really blends well. The first world looks so ugly in the original, since none of the colors run together well, they just clash.
I'm not all that worried though myself. Still plan on getting this and enjoying it. Did anyone else notice justhow much better this game looks texture-wise, in the videos, than the original? Everything really blends well. The first world looks so ugly in the original, since none of the colors run together well, they just clash.
Ford Prefect
GAAAAAAAAY
What is this, The Real World?Norse said:
seismologist
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I'm not big on ports but for having Mario 64 and Zelda lttp on the same system and being able to carry them anywhere you go? Where do I sign up?
Watching all those videos has me more excited than ever.
One thing I noticed is the textures look much nicer. Especially the dirt. It's no longer dark brown, more like a dry dirt tan. Before it looked like Mud all the time. And not very realistic. But now it looks much nicer. I can't wait 3 more days.
I look forward to playing the minigames this time. They actually look fun.
One thing I noticed is the textures look much nicer. Especially the dirt. It's no longer dark brown, more like a dry dirt tan. Before it looked like Mud all the time. And not very realistic. But now it looks much nicer. I can't wait 3 more days.
I look forward to playing the minigames this time. They actually look fun.
Shikamaru Ninja
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Nah. There are a lot of games that are never shown. It's documented by Nintendo programmers. Several games are never shown to the public, many are never released, some games that are released weren't that idea to begin with.
Kirby Tilt N' Tumble was originally a game featuring a monkey.
The Legend of Zelda: Tetra Trackers was originally a game about backseat drivers.
Mrbob said:
There's a control method that uses only the d pad and buttons to control the characters, relegating the touchscreen only to occasional camera control, iirc. And you can use your thumb for that, since it won't be a constant thing. (Camera toggles still available with Y, I believe.)
FeedMeAStrayCat
Member
I think it probably would be a little easier to control using the analog stick instead of the touch screen, but then again, these new minigames would be terrible without the touch screen(if that were replaced with an analog stick). :lol
I'd still like to have an analog stick on the system though. Would be very helpful, but I guess it's not COMPLETELY necessary..
I'd still like to have an analog stick on the system though. Would be very helpful, but I guess it's not COMPLETELY necessary..
Jonnyboy117
Member
In the 64/DS comparison video, note the key difference: in the N64 version, they actually make all the jumps. This game has serious control issues on the DS, and I'm worried about how playable it's going to be in the long term.
MARIO 64
vs.
MARIO 64 DS
In one video they compare DS with 64.
The DS version looks much better featuring a sharper look, better textures, and much better animation.
From the videos it seems they had a MUCH easier time controlling the DS version.
I think this will outclass most platformers, console or not.
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They had the same problem controlling both of them it seems. Even then they had a better time with the DS version.
The jump they did miss was because they didn't hold the yoshi elongated jump. Thats a button problem.
vs.
MARIO 64 DS
In one video they compare DS with 64.
The DS version looks much better featuring a sharper look, better textures, and much better animation.
From the videos it seems they had a MUCH easier time controlling the DS version.
I think this will outclass most platformers, console or not.
Jonnyboy117 said:
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They had the same problem controlling both of them it seems. Even then they had a better time with the DS version.
The jump they did miss was because they didn't hold the yoshi elongated jump. Thats a button problem.
Spiritreaver
Member
Jonnyboy117 said:
Well, I wish they had taken videos with the touch screen control input so we could get a further comparison. Don't get me wrong, I don't think controls are going to be great, I still have my doubts, but I'm quite interested in seeing how the GS guys handled each means of control.
I'm not sure though, they made it across the little bridge in the first world, though a little wobbly (obviously because of the D-Pad), and they made it over all the balls without a problem. The missed jump didn't seem like a control issue to me, but rather they just didn't time that jump right, or held Yoshi long enough.
Regardless, until I get this game in my hands even videos won't do much good as far as controls. I'm hoping they get more info up soon, or someone does before I get it Sunday.
FeedMeAStrayCat
Member
Well, we don't know if they're "tolerable" or not yet.. none (or I should see nearly none) of us have had actual hands-on time with the game.. it may turn out better.. or it may turn out worse, who knows...
I can definitely see problems where you need to navigate over a small ledge or bridge, or something of the sort, though.. but hopefully touch screen will come through..
I can definitely see problems where you need to navigate over a small ledge or bridge, or something of the sort, though.. but hopefully touch screen will come through..
Yeah, it really does seem like Nintendo is moving backwards in terms of controls. First, the GameCube controller didn't have analog face buttons unlike its competitors, and now it won't even provide an analog stick of some sort for the DS. Nintendo is beginning to cut too many corners now. At least when they cut past corners, like the Super NES's shitty processor or the Nintendo 64's cartridge format or the GBA SP's lack of headphone jack, it didn't affect gameplay.
snapty00 said:
*yawn*
Drinky? Greekboy?
The GameCube controller works wonderfully. OH NO! THE STICKS DONT CLICK!
And are the octagonal guides really a step back?
Super NES's shitty processor? Did that matter in the least? The Super NES has some of the best looking game I have ever seen. Not just of that era, but even now.
I hold that Yoshi's Island looks better than just about every sidescroller since.
Super Mario RPG is one of the cleanest, nicest looking games I've seen.
Yeah, I know, it wasn't really an issue until GameCube. Till GameCube, Nintendo was leading the industry, with the analog stick. Now, with the lack of face buttons on GameCube and the total lack of analog control on DS, I can't help but wonder if Nintendo is cutting too many corners.lockii said:
Spiritreaver
Member
Well, I must say that the only problem I have with the GC controller is the damned small D-Pad. Rogue Leader was annoying when I'd accidentally have my wingmen flee instead of going after some fighters.
As far as that though, I've never had a problem with the GameCube controller. I really like actually, especially with the Wave Bird and all. Now the controller that really bothers me, is the PS2 one. I really dislike how the thing feels as a whole, and the D-Pad is just not fun to use. The analog is fine I think, but the clicky sticks are a little annoying to use sometimes as the sticks are rather loose.
I love it with FFXI though, I don't think I would have played with anything else. You almost don't even need the keyboard (except to chat) once you've got that in your hands. So many buttons..
As far as that though, I've never had a problem with the GameCube controller. I really like actually, especially with the Wave Bird and all. Now the controller that really bothers me, is the PS2 one. I really dislike how the thing feels as a whole, and the D-Pad is just not fun to use. The analog is fine I think, but the clicky sticks are a little annoying to use sometimes as the sticks are rather loose.
I love it with FFXI though, I don't think I would have played with anything else. You almost don't even need the keyboard (except to chat) once you've got that in your hands. So many buttons..
Have you actually played with a DS unit? I messed around with one yesterday at eb playing the metroid prime demo and just using my thumb on the touch screen the control was smooth and flawless.
I'm guessing most of the people here bitching about the lack of an analog stick haven't picked up a ds yet.
The way I see it is that I've already got Nintendo making 3D games on the Gamecube and 'Revolution'. With the GBA being brushed aside, it's sort of upsetting to see handhelds powerful to the point where 2D gameplay is no longer necessary. Often when it's not necessary, modern developers are thus inclined to see the sidescrollers and such as extinct. So if 3D games are inhibited because of disadvantages with the system, then Nintendo may, in more instances, choose 2D.olimario said:
I wish the PSP would do 2D games as well. As it stands, PSP software is games that are either already on the PS2 in some form or would have been otherwise. Considering that I'm not one to play games outside of my house, the PSP is mostly irrelevant to me.snapty00 said: