Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS Thread 2: Where Pilotwings is apparently Minecraft

There were probably a TON of kids who bought Smash just for Sonic and found they had to either play right up until the end of SSE, play a dozen hours worth of fights or 300 vs matches just to play as him.

He should have just been available from the start. Especially this time around if he comes back after how much he's associated with Nintendo nowadays.

Yeah, kids were just so excited to play with sonic after all the great games he gave them this gen.
But yeah, he probably should have been more easily available, considering how much Nintendo promoted him being in the game.
 
Yeah, kids were just so excited to play with sonic after all the great games he gave them this gen.
But yeah, he probably should have been more easily available, considering how much Nintendo promoted him being in the game.
Well yeah a lot of his games up until that point has been mostly shit, but that doesn't change the fact there was an overwhelming amount of fan demand for him to be in the game. Sakurai admitted as much that's why he got in well after everybody else was already planned.

Since Mega Man's already in, I doubt there'll be a similar situation for SSB4.
 
They shouldn't have shown Mario in the trailer and made him an unlockable instead. Shake things up a bit.

They could've pulled an MvC3. Don't show Mario in the launch trailer, then for every reveal after people would just assume they'll show Mario. Then in the end, it turns out they didn't put Mario in because Luigi was good enough.
 
I find it interesting that every Pokemon in the starting roster are Starter Pokemon while all of the unlockable ones aren't.

Very clever, Sakurai...

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They could've pulled an MvC3. Don't show Mario in the launch trailer, then for every reveal after people would just assume they'll show Mario. Then in the end, it turns out they didn't put Mario in because Luigi was good enough.

Year of Luigi, bitches! - Nintendo
 
They could've pulled an MvC3. Don't show Mario in the launch trailer, then for every reveal after people would just assume they'll show Mario. Then in the end, it turns out they didn't put Mario in because Luigi was good enough.

I wonder if it would ruin the games for everyone? SSB4 lack Mario.
 
Luigi and Wario could have a Mario costume to compensate.
 
I wonder if it would ruin the games for everyone? SSB4 lack Mario.

It makes you wonder... anyone here who/knows anyone who plays as Mario as a main? He's such a vanilla character that you would think everyone would play as someone else, haha.

And when you want to unlock a Pokemon into the roster, you have to fight it first. You might as well say you've captured the Pokemon...

When you put it this way...

Man. It's pretty genius! Though I wonder if it's intentional or not :p
 
Ryu with a mustache will be replacing Mario.
 
I have a brother and a couple friends that mained Mario back in Melee.

Though I don't think I've ever heard of anyone maining Mario in Brawl. But in all fairness, he kind of really sucks in Brawl. I don't know what Sakurai was thinking when he balanced a lot of the characters.
 
Mario is always fun for me to use regardless if I suck with him.
 
It makes you wonder... anyone here who/knows anyone who plays as Mario as a main? He's such a vanilla character that you would think everyone would play as someone else, haha.

I actually have a friend who does, along with a friend's friend that does as well. Also, I remember he would win a highschool tournament for Brawl. Crazyness.
 
I have a brother and a couple friends that mained Mario back in Melee.

Though I don't think I've ever heard of anyone maining Mario in Brawl. But in all fairness, he kind of really sucks in Brawl. I don't know what Sakurai was thinking when he balanced a lot of the characters.

He wasn't :P almost all the melee veterans make up the lower tiers while almost all the newcomers make up the higher tiers lol
 
I mained with Mario back in my Melee competitive days, definitely going to find a new main now when getting back into with SSB4, actually really excited to get back in to competitive with this new game
 
Sakurai said Smash 4 will have balance updates right?

Or am I insane and misremembering things?
It was brought up in an interview but the way Sakurai worded his response sounded like he had no idea how to do them like any other online fighter does to not break up the playerbase.

What's wrong with it?
It is ridiculously weak, especially for a character that already has very few reliable killing moves. I don't know what the heck Sakurai was on when he weakened the knockback of her Charge Shot either. Like, what the hell.

Samus is supposed to be slower and stronger in comparison to Zero Suit Samus, but thanks to ZSS's larger variety of easier to utilize killing moves, she honestly feels pound for pound stronger than her armored form.
 
Sakurai says the darndest things!
 
It is ridiculously weak, especially for a character that already has very few reliable killing moves. I don't know what the heck Sakurai was on when he weakened the knockback of her Charge Shot either. Like, what the hell.

Samus is supposed to be slower and stronger in comparison to Zero Suit Samus, but thanks to ZSS's larger variety of easier to utilize killing moves, she honestly feels pound for pound stronger than her armored form.

Oh right. I actually forget all about that. Yeah, Samus need to be buffed.
 
Then there's ganondorf's everything up b. why the heck is it so weak? XD
Oh yeah, I forgot about this one, holy smokes. Ganondorf is flung off of his opponent farther than the opponent is knocked away. How did it go from potentially killing people to that?
 
And captain Falcon's knee...harder to pull off and it's weaker than it was in Melee.

Then there's ganondorf's everything up b. why the heck is it so weak? XD

I miss the old knee of justice. Catching people with that is hilarious. Still fun in Brawl but not as amazing as Melee.
 
I have a brother and a couple friends that mained Mario back in Melee.

Though I don't think I've ever heard of anyone maining Mario in Brawl. But in all fairness, he kind of really sucks in Brawl. I don't know what Sakurai was thinking when he balanced a lot of the characters.

I play Mario every now and then. He's pretty good and handles well IMO. not too slow or fast but his recovery just sucks.

I miss the old knee of justice. Catching people with that is hilarious. Still fun in Brawl but not as amazing as Melee.


one of the best things about Project M. :) Especially if you taunt while hitting it. he yells YES!
 
Captain Falcon's knee needs an oil change.
 
Though I don't think I've ever heard of anyone maining Mario in Brawl. But in all fairness, he kind of really sucks in Brawl.
Them be fightin' words. He isn't my main, but I have a pretty decent one. I think my Mario usually gives SmithnCo a good run for his money.
today's match against Smith was too close though
 
This thread just made me download Wario Land 4 because I am a 3DS Ambassador, let's see what this is about :P
Every time ambassadors post like this, I get sad when I realize Nintendo is bringing GBA games to the Wii U and not 3DS anymore.
I missed the boat on that one ;-;
 
Every time ambassadors post like this, I get sad when I realize Nintendo is bringing GBA games to the Wii U and not 3DS anymore.
I missed the boat on that one ;-;
I seriously have no clue why on earth Nintendo thought that was a good idea. What do ambassadors get out of later customers not having access to GBA games on the 3DS? They still got all that stuff for free!
 
Every time ambassadors post like this, I get sad when I realize Nintendo is bringing GBA games to the Wii U and not 3DS anymore.
I missed the boat on that one ;-;

It is funny, I still want a 3DS XL, but I am 99% sure that I can't transfer those games, but I do want a 3DS XL haha
 
Being an ambassador introduced me to the Warioware series. Being an ambassador is fucking awesome.

There should really be GBA games on 3DS, but I have a WiiU so whateva
Games are games, a less desirable way is still a way :/
 
You can transfer those games. Not an XL, but I have my ambassador games on a Fire Emblem special edition 3DS.

Don't quote me on this but I thought they could be transferred over.

You definitely can.


Oh man, if it wasn't for me about to spend over a thousand bucks these next couple of months, but a 3DS XL might be bought soon, that Pikachu One is sweet.

Or, maybe a SSB4 3DS XL will come out and I'll bite at that.
 
Every time ambassadors post like this, I get sad when I realize Nintendo is bringing GBA games to the Wii U and not 3DS anymore.
I missed the boat on that one ;-;

Really weird, is there a reason they won't just release them? Do they not want to put them up without sleep mode or something?

I wanted more 3DS GBA games, more portable that way. Nice to be able to play on a TV with WiiU but... eh.
 
GBA Ambassador games don't have sleep mode or save states, or even a reset option for games that don't have them already. They aren't feature equal to other VC games, which I imagine is why they won't sell them.

I don't even think they're running on emulators, its all native on the 3DS. Maybe Nintendo can't get an up-to-standards emulator running on the system or something.
 
I only found Mario mains online and very few of them were any good. It's a shame too since he is a character I would have liked to see more of. Him and DK are the pure and raw definition of vanillla as far as I'm concerned. They seem like the least played characters ever. At the same time that's why I like DK so much because he is so unloved in Smash.

Brawl newcomers had really zany and creative move sets compared to almost everything from Melee and 64. Not only that but they all had some real killing moves. I mean what in the heck was Sakurai thinking?! Snake's neutrals and titls are just insane!

What I really loved though were his personal explanations of th characters.

1 - Link is stronger than Toon Link but Toon Link is faster. Sounds right... Wait what!?!?!? Toon Links knock back was insane compared to everything Link did. All Toon Links Smashes sent you flying further and his bombs did as well. Toon Link outclassed Link in almost every aspect. I'll give Sakurai some slack sense he sad only Link and Sonic were the characters he did not balance.

2 - Samus is more powerful than ZSS but ZSS is more agile. It only sounds fair so lets see... WTF??!?!?!? Holy crap! Maybe ZSS's smashes didn't send you too far but she had some moves with that whip that were so useful for killing. ZSS is DK's, Bowser's and DDD's worst nightmare. I consider myself a very experienced player but there were two people who had a command of ZSS that would 3 stock me occasionally. That paralyzer coupled with those quick flips were devastating. All the while Samus's claim to fame was nerfed so bad. Lucario would be blasting people into the stratusphere while Samus had to get characters to insane percentage to kill them.

3 - Ness's PK Rocket hits you with one big hit, while Lucas hits you with multiple smaller hits. Ok what's wrong with this one. Lucas outclasses Ness at almost every turn as well. Lucas's PK Rocket hits you multiple times with more knock back! His up and down smashes are devastating compared to Ness's and his tilts and neutrals are so much more effective.

I love Sakurai and just dealt with the balancing flaws in Brawl but man did many of the older characters get the shaft. He has no business balancing anything all by himself again.
 
Toon Link was my favorite from Brawl I think.
Something about the speed and attacks just clicked with me.
Disliked using Mario (DK even more so)

GBA Ambassador games don't have sleep mode or save states, or even a reset option for games that don't have them already. They aren't feature equal to other VC games, which I imagine is why they won't sell them.

I don't even think they're running on emulators, its all native on the 3DS. Maybe Nintendo can't get an up-to-standards emulator running on the system or something.
As long as they release a good stream of GBA games on the Wii U for a low price, I'll probably get the system and buy them.
I won't like it and would've preferred a more portable experience but I've missed many games during that gen and want to play them.
 
Link's gale boomerang is a double-edged sword boomerang.
 
Landing consecutive hits with Toon Link's down aerial is satisfying.
 
I'd say that it's likely but not very likely. I always thought of assist trophies as "a step away from being playable characters". I fully expect some of them becoming playable, specially Isaac and Little Mac.

Highly unlikely. I'd say it's not going to happen, but obviously I don't know for sure.

So we find out in about 5 hours if we get a MH4 Stage/Rep.

Odds are
1:9999999999
of this happening.
Keep your expectations low.
 
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