peaceiscloser
Member
I will never understand size debates.
I mean, Bowser in all the mainline Mario games is flippin huge.
Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS Thread 2: Where Pilotwings is apparently Minecraft
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I will never understand size debates.
I mean, Bowser in all the mainline Mario games is flippin huge.
foxuzamaki
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yeah im sure 99.9% of the ridley jokes are made in jest whether ridley makes it in or not, its just a famous smash meme at this point just like no items, fox only, final destination
foxuzamaki
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He's not that huge, big sure but not ridley big, he is either really big or as big as donkey kong
BassForever
Member
The big issue with Ridley is his tail, it's kind of become iconic for its long, whip like properties. His tail always seemed like a bigger issue then his size IMO.
Valjean Lafitte
Banned
Bowser magically changes size from game to game. Ridley, as far as I can tell, doesn't. Since all signs point to Ridley being a stage hazard in the Pyrosphere, it's safe to assume
he will be the same size he was in Other M: too damn big.
Bowser's is from a fantastical color land.
Ridleys home is a bit more harsh and unwelcoming, some one even argue in the first person games, horror even. In my opinion for ridley to retain what ridley is, he has to stay a boss or a stage hazard. Because thats is what he is essentially. It would be like if the eel in mario 64 wanted a spot in smash.
Ridley
special smash bros battle mode version
shorter tail
done
he looked fine here duders
As I will say again , and I am sure many times in the future.
What sakurai put in an intro video has no sway on how the people do Metriod want ridley to be portrayed, and how ridley is actually portrayed.
voltronbadA
Member
Ridley
special smash bros battle mode version
shorter tail
done
he looked fine here duders
This is honestly what always comes to my mind when this debate is tirelessly brought up (yes it is tired at this point). In this video he is honestly not that much bigger than samus and looks great! I agree that when this debate comes up it turns me off for a while but I have been happy that it usually only lasts a few pages instead of days like before
We can't possibly know what they want tbh. Plus "they," being those with the original vision for Ridley are scattered across other teams and/or are no longer working for Nintendo. Sakurai probably has quite a bit of creative license in dealing with this-- assuming he wants to do it (all previous evidence points to him not wanting to do it).
For serious though, whether he gets in or not, I'm for it. I just don't see the point in being against it though.
peaceiscloser
Member
Ridley
special smash bros battle mode version
shorter tail
done
he looked fine here duders
Baby Metroid confirmed for Smash 4
no ridley
MrSaturn99
Member
I never saw Ridley as anything but just providing some really awesome boss fights. Don't actually care for him as a character.
So, I dunno, I guess he should stay a boss. Sakurai probably feels he'd be too much trouble to rework/resize into a Smash environment.
To be fair, that really does sound like something that would pop up on Miiverse. lol
So, I dunno, I guess he should stay a boss. Sakurai probably feels he'd be too much trouble to rework/resize into a Smash environment.
To be fair, that really does sound like something that would pop up on Miiverse. lol
That seriously started on Smashboards, though? Yet another product of the Great Noob Flood of 2005.
WealthyGadabout
Banned
Final smash would involve Repulsion Gel.
I've never said Ridley sucks, ever.
I've used the "too big" image twice.
It's clear he'll never, ever be in the game.
I don't think it gets funnier, but you phrase it as if I post one every day, which is far from the case. Like I said, if you don't like it, ignore it.
I feel like I should step up the ante just to annoy now, but I shall not.
RomanceDawn
Member
The longer Sakurai avoids showing stage hazard Ridley, the more I wonder if that's all he is. I just can't imagine Sakurai hyping a stage hazard the way he has. Of course that could be exactly what he's doing but a part of me wonders if the team on Smash is aware of the Ridley debate and are toying with everyone.
As for Ridley's tail, it lagging behind him like Olimar's trail of 6 Pikmin could work but with no actual hit box on them. Even then it doesn't have to be that long, all every limb in the game does is stretch and expand to hideous levels when characters attack anyway.
Village, I see people say things like often, things to the effect of "it's not what the creators intended." When it comes to Smash bros that is biggest bull crap ever. Sakurai takes so many liberties I doubt anyone is sitting over him like "no you can't do that I'm sorry." The closest to that that we know of is actually the Pokemon characters and the Pokemon company lets Sakurai go nuts with their sizes. Beyond that though, do you think Sakamoto likes that instead of Samus's suit disappearing when she transforms, she gets to chuck the broken pieces at enemies? I bet he could care less, maybe even thinks it's cool.
What about Peach and her exploding butt? Without knowing anything about Peach's creation I can say for a fact Miyamoto never intended for that. Olimar is giant now and uses Pikmin like a club? He throws them sure, but like a bludgeoning instrument? Maybe he did and I missed that part. Not to mention the many characters who went from literally nothing to full on Smash move set. I get Fox's reflector inspiration, but fox fire? How about Ganondorf? That has to be the biggest F U to Sakurai's character creation process.
The fact is Ridley was small before, he can be small again and was depicted as being smaller in Melee. No one cared and I'm certain no one at Nintendo gave it a second thought. He doesn't have to be Metroid small but he doesn't have to big as Zero Mission Ridley. Ridley can't even stay consistent in his own games. Just look through every Ridley appearance on YouTube, there is no rhyme or reason to his changing size aside from most likely gameplay necessity.
Sakurai acknowledges size with Kirby and Olimar, as the two shortest characters in the game. He even labels Olimar as the shortest yet he is still taller than Kirby. The characters are fighting on a stack of children's playing blocks for crying out loud, where is your size argument there?
When I consider what Smash is(maybe was), a collection of toys and dolls fighting on books and pencil holders, pretending these props are actual stage pieces, any type of canonical series logic goes out the window.
I don't think Ridley is likely, though I do find Sakurai's constant teasing of him a little suspect and he certainly likes the character enough to have him featured in each Smash bros so far. But I have to step in when I read a truthful "too big, the creators wouldn't like it, look at all his games but that one." What I really love is when Ridley haters go on to preach for King K Rool. Compared to Donkey Kong, K Rool is a giant on the SNES and only got bigger, especially on the N64. I wonder were these same people pissed when Honey Queen was shrunken down for Mario Kart 7? But it's a spin off they'd say right? Well so is Smash.
As for Ridley's tail, it lagging behind him like Olimar's trail of 6 Pikmin could work but with no actual hit box on them. Even then it doesn't have to be that long, all every limb in the game does is stretch and expand to hideous levels when characters attack anyway.
Village, I see people say things like often, things to the effect of "it's not what the creators intended." When it comes to Smash bros that is biggest bull crap ever. Sakurai takes so many liberties I doubt anyone is sitting over him like "no you can't do that I'm sorry." The closest to that that we know of is actually the Pokemon characters and the Pokemon company lets Sakurai go nuts with their sizes. Beyond that though, do you think Sakamoto likes that instead of Samus's suit disappearing when she transforms, she gets to chuck the broken pieces at enemies? I bet he could care less, maybe even thinks it's cool.
What about Peach and her exploding butt? Without knowing anything about Peach's creation I can say for a fact Miyamoto never intended for that. Olimar is giant now and uses Pikmin like a club? He throws them sure, but like a bludgeoning instrument? Maybe he did and I missed that part. Not to mention the many characters who went from literally nothing to full on Smash move set. I get Fox's reflector inspiration, but fox fire? How about Ganondorf? That has to be the biggest F U to Sakurai's character creation process.
The fact is Ridley was small before, he can be small again and was depicted as being smaller in Melee. No one cared and I'm certain no one at Nintendo gave it a second thought. He doesn't have to be Metroid small but he doesn't have to big as Zero Mission Ridley. Ridley can't even stay consistent in his own games. Just look through every Ridley appearance on YouTube, there is no rhyme or reason to his changing size aside from most likely gameplay necessity.
Sakurai acknowledges size with Kirby and Olimar, as the two shortest characters in the game. He even labels Olimar as the shortest yet he is still taller than Kirby. The characters are fighting on a stack of children's playing blocks for crying out loud, where is your size argument there?
When I consider what Smash is(maybe was), a collection of toys and dolls fighting on books and pencil holders, pretending these props are actual stage pieces, any type of canonical series logic goes out the window.
I don't think Ridley is likely, though I do find Sakurai's constant teasing of him a little suspect and he certainly likes the character enough to have him featured in each Smash bros so far. But I have to step in when I read a truthful "too big, the creators wouldn't like it, look at all his games but that one." What I really love is when Ridley haters go on to preach for King K Rool. Compared to Donkey Kong, K Rool is a giant on the SNES and only got bigger, especially on the N64. I wonder were these same people pissed when Honey Queen was shrunken down for Mario Kart 7? But it's a spin off they'd say right? Well so is Smash.
Dimitri LH
Member
Were getting way too hostile towards each other....WE NEED TO MAKE IT TO THE 300TH PAGE AND ALERT THE NINTENDO NINJAS!
Red Arremer
Member
No, it's not clear. It's only clear once he is deconfirmed as a playable character.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
smashgaf is about love, and smashing eachother.....in a game of smash ofcourse.
I'll eat my computer screen live on Twitch.TV, for you if it ever happens.
MrSaturn99
Member
Red Arremer
Member
I'd rather have you stop being so disgustingly smug.
I'll stop being smug if we can both agree to disagree and stop prolonging this.
I get it, you don't like unfunny jokes, I'll stop them from now on.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
guys guys
Love and Peace!
Love and Peace!
KillerTravis
Banned
I don't get why people want Ridley so much in Smash. He's so ugly in all of his incarnations. Maybe if he talked like in the manga and showed signs of intelligence.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
stahp
Red Arremer
Member
Thank you.
I don't get why people want Geno so much in Smash. He's so ugly in the one incarnation he appears in. Maybe if he was more interesting.
I don't get why people want Sonic so much in Smash. He's so ugly in all of his incarnations. Maybe if he stopped stuffing his face with chilidogs all the damn time and showed signs of intelligence.
nckillthegrimace
Member
...he's a space dragon. Self-explanatory, really.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Favorite Chara announced (I caught wind of it yesterday) that goddamned TOON LINK is back!...whew!....thought he was a goner, though it'll be difficult since I'll be using he and only Megaman lol....
talk about LTTP
B_Boss
Member
Not only that, he's a damned space pirate! and pirates rule, period.
talk about LTTP
Oh you...if you only knew my life lol. Better late than the party being over eh?
Dimitri LH
Member
Im gonna feel terrible if it does happen, even if im laughing my ass off, just know I will feel eternally sad for your monitor and your digestive system.
Nah but really I think sakurai will make things interesting this time around with new comers. it was in the past 3 games, it will be the same this time around, I see Ridley having as much chance as anyone else.
Now....ENOUGH RIDLEY TALK! its time to discuss the next confirmed new comer that is also repping Namco.
KOS-MOS will wreck you and all you love :3
KillerTravis
Banned
But he doesn't have any space powers... It's actually a purple boring dragon. I love the Metroid games, but I don't see the bosses as much more than big, ugly alien monsters. Except for the MP3 bosses, those were awesome.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
It's gonna be a painful meal.
Best get to work on the "Lil' Mac is too small!" jokes now.
Nah, kidding. Hope he shows off the Galaxy stage soon.
Red Arremer
Member
I actually think the fully grown Ridley design from Other M is not that horrible. Generally I don't think that visually, Other M was bad by any stretch of the imagination.
I imagine however that if he was in Smash, Ridley would be more of an amalgam of all the games he appears in, just like Link or, well, Samus.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
It will end soon hopefully D:
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Hmm...
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Just tell him hes mad beause ridley wont fit on the 3DS screen lol
Dimitri LH
Member
Bah....wont be awake for the 300th page. Hope all this Ridley talk gets blasted away by the new pic. Night guys, hope to see you alive after your attempts of online murder. < =P
Poor K. Rool. I would have bet by this game his chances would be really high.
It's a shame Retro and/or Nintendo wants the Kremlings to take a hike. Ah well, I'll enjoy Dixie's reveal.
But hey, if 3D World really does has more inspiration from Mario 2 than meets the eye, Wart would be a good replacement for K.Rool.
I seem to remember some guy thinking king boo was a better choice than K. Rool.
I think he was being serious, too.