Running back and forth on the train hoping to find the right room to move the story along? no thanks.
I would absolutely love a proper Wii U Paper Mario. I think it's time after two spin off games.
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Super Unpopular Opinion: Paper Mario 3D: Sticker Star is goddamn amazing...
- Thread starter The Mana Legend
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Running back and forth on the train hoping to find the right room to move the story along? no thanks.
I would absolutely love a proper Wii U Paper Mario. I think it's time after two spin off games.
tkscz
Member
This. There is no reason the fight regular enemies. It's a waste of sticks and if you run, they vanish anyway. Don't get me wrong, love the game, just wish there were more RPG elements to makes the fighting worth while.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Right...........
My wife hated this game and has played every one in the series.
It's on sale so I suspect that drove your desire to make this thread. Avoid the game.
My wife hated this game and has played every one in the series.
It's on sale so I suspect that drove your desire to make this thread. Avoid the game.
I really wanted to like Sticker Star, since I was a big fan of the previous Paper Mario games (Super Paper Mario was one of my favorites of this gen, as a matter of fact), but I wound up putting the game down after 8 hours. The couple of boss fights I did were great, but the standard battles were completely unnecessary and some of the puzzles were just unclear and frustrating. Honestly, Sticker Star was probably my biggest disappointment of the year after Assassin's Creed III.
Hell, if they just put in the standard RPG leveling and such in, I probably would have had more fun with it. It would have given the battles actual meaning to them.
Hell, if they just put in the standard RPG leveling and such in, I probably would have had more fun with it. It would have given the battles actual meaning to them.
VeryGooster
Banned
I had a good laugh though in that so many people yelled "STOP HELPING ME!" to Fi while playing Skyward Sword, meanwhile Kersti is ridiculously useless for any help whatsoever.
eXistor
Member
I agree, Sticker Star is an underrated masterpiece. The adventure vibe and charm, great locations, stellar music all add to an already solid base. I suppose the only downsides to the game would be the random locations of the items and their uses during times (some boss-battles). After TTYD the best Paper Mario imo.
/edit: Yeah the whole "no hand holding" was great, it's damned if you do and damned of you don't I suppose. The game generally gave subtle hints at what you had to do at all times, you just had to pay attention. I will agree that it could have been a tad clearer at times, but I'd rather have it this way than the Skyward Sword way (which I also loved btw).
/edit: Yeah the whole "no hand holding" was great, it's damned if you do and damned of you don't I suppose. The game generally gave subtle hints at what you had to do at all times, you just had to pay attention. I will agree that it could have been a tad clearer at times, but I'd rather have it this way than the Skyward Sword way (which I also loved btw).
100% this
BishopLamont
Banned
I would say its up there with the best M&L games, considering its far superior. =]
VGChampion
Member
I like all the Paper Mario games. I love Super Paper Mario and I love this game. I thought the OT had a bunch of people that really enjoyed the game?
Aquamarine
Member
OP, I also have to agree with you. I love the reinvention of Paper Mario to a more gameplay-oriented, streamlined experience that's tailored for handhelds.
Indeed.
I just finished Sticker Star, and I really liked it, despite it being totally different from TTYD, which I loved. I kind of resent liking it, because it might send the message that I approve of Miyamoto's meddling with the story; I feel that it would have benefited from more distinct secondary characters and more story.
Vane_MagicCity
Banned
What's open about it?
It's an excellent game -- the adventure/puzzle solving element of the game was extremely well done, and the battle system was just as fun to mess around with as in the previous games. The people who hate it must be terrified of change, because they can't come up with any legitimate criticisms of it beyond "it's not like the other Paper Mario games!"
Sammy Samusu
Member
I give Sticker Star a glorious 9.5, I beat the game in two, three days? I could NOT stop playing it. I already regret selling my copy. 
As a Paper Mario game, it's fucking disgusting, even more than Super Paper Mario. Nintendo is the one to blame here, they promised an RPG and deliverd an adventure game.
Why not create a different series for games like Super Paper Mario and Sticker Star?
As a Paper Mario game, it's fucking disgusting, even more than Super Paper Mario. Nintendo is the one to blame here, they promised an RPG and deliverd an adventure game.
Why not create a different series for games like Super Paper Mario and Sticker Star?
Perfect reply.
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
Terrible game. Enough to put me off Paper Mario for good. Super Paper Mario was bad, but this is a whole other type of boring.
Bad story.
Poor dungeons.
Music is alright.
Terrible battles.
I got it for 29.99 and I paid 10 too much.
Bad story.
Poor dungeons.
Music is alright.
Terrible battles.
I got it for 29.99 and I paid 10 too much.
DeviousAngel
Member
I'll make it brief: I really liked this game, but I liked TTYD better.
Vane_MagicCity
Banned
It's not like other Paper Mario games has a large scope and is a perfectly legitimate criticism.
- No Star Points (exp)
- No badges
- No items
- No partners
- No open world, just a series of levels on a map
WrenchNinja
Member
Weird, the criticism Ive read is that the game has obtuse puzzle design, a lack of progression, a pointless and even more dumbed down battle system and a lack of interesting characters.
There is such a thing as change for the worse.
You don't have to do the stages in order? It's not open world but it's not a traditional Mario setup.
Game is great. I love Paper Mario and TTYD but kind of hated SPM. I'm glad they got reigned back in after that atrocity, and this game ended up being pretty damn good and unique.
I'd need an example. I beat the game without the use of any guides and never felt hopelessly stuck.
The Hermit
Member
I liked the game, but I don't think I'll replay it. I always enjoyed M&L franchise more anyway.
Still, having the BoomBox playing Star Maze was awesome! I wish more games used that tune...
Still, having the BoomBox playing Star Maze was awesome! I wish more games used that tune...
WiiredShawn
Member
After completing everything the game had to offer, I would say that Sticker Star plays around with a few neat ideas that aren't fully exploited (e.g., the battle system), but suffers from a really bare-bones story (for a Mario RPG, anyway; it's little more than a slightly elaborated version of the story in the NSMB games), which encompasses the lack of characters and dialogue. Kersti is cool, but she's about it, outside of the toads (who are also sometimes cool).
It is a generally polished game, with a decent challenge in both the boss battles and the "puzzles" (there's surprisingly little hand-holding at times), and the humor that is present is typically amusing. It just lacks...ambition, I suppose. Maybe Nintendo didn't supply IS with much of a budget on this one.
I will say, however, that SS is the best realization of the "paper" aesthetic yet. The art style and its little nuances are all very charming.
It is a generally polished game, with a decent challenge in both the boss battles and the "puzzles" (there's surprisingly little hand-holding at times), and the humor that is present is typically amusing. It just lacks...ambition, I suppose. Maybe Nintendo didn't supply IS with much of a budget on this one.
I will say, however, that SS is the best realization of the "paper" aesthetic yet. The art style and its little nuances are all very charming.
No badges again? Aww that's one of the best things in the series.
Vane_MagicCity
Banned
jacob armitage
Banned
I completely agree The Mana Legend.
I found it to be a pretty amazing experience and one of my favs from portables from last year. It needs to be approached like an adventure puzzle game and not an RPG though.
Superb levels, very fun. Absolute incredible music. I enjoy how a lot of the puzzle and boss battles have you require a very direct way of tackling and finding out the solution can be very rewarding, I've heard some people say the puzzles where too random but i really loved how they worked.
I was always surprised by the reception the game received and hope that down the road we'll reflect on it warmer. Perhaps it wasn't the game people wanted it to be, or expected, but its still superb. My fav of the paper mario franchinse with TTYD close behind. Which i really love, but its a bit long winded at times, where i found sticker star to be genuinely entertaining the whole way through with a few more surprises in the levels to keep things fresh until the credits roll.
And i respect this entry from moving further away from traditional mario RPG mechanics with Mario and Luigi 4 on the horizon, as we didn't need two portable mario RPGs in 8months.
I found it to be a pretty amazing experience and one of my favs from portables from last year. It needs to be approached like an adventure puzzle game and not an RPG though.
Superb levels, very fun. Absolute incredible music. I enjoy how a lot of the puzzle and boss battles have you require a very direct way of tackling and finding out the solution can be very rewarding, I've heard some people say the puzzles where too random but i really loved how they worked.
I was always surprised by the reception the game received and hope that down the road we'll reflect on it warmer. Perhaps it wasn't the game people wanted it to be, or expected, but its still superb. My fav of the paper mario franchinse with TTYD close behind. Which i really love, but its a bit long winded at times, where i found sticker star to be genuinely entertaining the whole way through with a few more surprises in the levels to keep things fresh until the credits roll.
And i respect this entry from moving further away from traditional mario RPG mechanics with Mario and Luigi 4 on the horizon, as we didn't need two portable mario RPGs in 8months.
Fox the Sly
Member
That's probably why you like Sticker Star then.
I dunno, I'm playing through it right now and I don't think it tops the original Paper Mario, yet anyway. I never had the love affair that everyone else does with TTYD so it's already surpassed it on merits of presentation alone in my mind.
Things that've struck me while playing:
Things that've struck me while playing:
- Adventure game structure: seriously, it's more an adventure game platformer than it is an RPG, even with turn based battles. The majority of the game is finding where to use the obscure inventory item you just acquired.
- What DOES suck about this is having to trek back to town whenever your guess was off just because those important stickers are one-off. Having to reload because of trial and error in boss battles is terrible too, and Mario & Luigi does this way better.
- I actually like the idea of a limited arsenal that the stickers provide. Collecting your battle moves all over the world is actually kind of fun too.
- The soundtrack is fantastic.
- The writing, while not on par with the rest of the series, didn't really take the hit that everyone kept telling me it did. Even if the characters are all Toads, they do have the quirky character that I'd come to expect from them, even if the overall narrative doesn't. Kersti can go shove it, though. She has some fun dialogue in a few places but as a character she's pretty disappointing.
- Emphasizing coins over everything else is also neat, but the battles are not nearly rewarding enough for me to even bother with them.
- It probably shouldn't have been called Paper Mario. Paper makes up most of the aesthetic, moreso than the rest of the series ever did, but outside of that it really has nothing in common with the rest of the games. I can see someone getting disappointed for expecting an actual, full-fledged RPG in here.
Vane_MagicCity
Banned
Once you get to Gran Pulse the game gets good?
By the time you get to Gran Pulse you already finished Sticker Star.
Vane_MagicCity
Banned
I got to Gran Pulse three times and still haven't gotten past 3-1 in Sticker Star.
The Mana Legend
Banned
But Gran Pulse is the worst part about FFXIII.
It's not a case of it making you feel hopelessly stuck, it's just stupid stuff like stickers that are off the main path being essential to progressing through the game. Given the way the game is structured, that's just incredibly stupid design. You could argue most of the game is stupidly designed, even.
But then again, some people who play NES/SNES games obsessively seem to love that obtuse shit so who am I to judge?
Vane_MagicCity
Banned
I agree but it was just an example of people saying "Stick with it, it gets better X hours in".