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[FalconPunch]

GDDR6 is a significant upgrade of GDDR5X, the generational gap in architecture from GCN4 to RDNA 2 is easily large enough to be far more than "hardly" and don't get me started with "BuT tHe FlOpS" because FLOP count by itself is meaningless without considering the rest of the hardware.

GDDR6 is not an upgrade at all. It has less memory bandwidth than the Xbox One X which was using GDDR5. In fact, the memory bandwidth is paltry on the S. It may also have the GPU features on RDNA 2, but it really doesn't matter since the gpu is to weak to utilize most of the features.

The series S' biggest issue isn't being better than last gen upgrades, but is being a significant downgrade from the series X and PS5. The same architectural upgrades that the X supports, the S also supports but doesn't have the extra power to run it as well. I couldn't care less about the console since I game on PC, but the hyperbole against the series S hardware is getting ridiculous.

The series S issue is it's lack of ram, lack of memory bandwidth, worse gpu than the Xbox One x so you can't even play X enhanced titles, etc. It's just a shitty product.

 

[Ogbert]

What about Switch?

 

[Malak]

 

[SNG32]

I’ll play the PS5 version when it comes out for the story and then the PC version for the mods. Not surprised by this at all. This is why it’s always great to have a console handy.

The online revamp of the game will probably be on PC before GTA 6 comes to it.

 

[twilo99]

jfc judging by some posts here GAF has really become garbage.

Worse than ERA even, what an accomplishment !

What do you mean?

 

[onQ123]

Lol.

Tom is an Asshole lol

Funny but wrong .

Feature wise Series S is capable of everything Series X is capable of the problem comes in with the fact that they are tethered together

 

[Thirty7ven]

Regarding Series S I see no reason why devs won’t be able to make the games for PS5/Series X that they want and simply gut it to run on S or delay the game on Xbox like it has happened. Games have come out with that simply disable visual feature on S and run at it at lower res and or framerate also.

 

[ThatOneGrunt]

I can wait. It will still be the best version of the game.

 

[Malak]

 

[twilo99]

Why is everyone here celebrating 720p30fps when we could’ve had 1440p/4k - 120fps on mid to high end Windows machines?

 

[Gen.Grievous]

Well it is to be expected. Anything else would have been a huge surprise. Also it doesn't really matter than much anyway. A good game will still be a good game a year later. They can also improve the graphics a lot by that time because some areas look a bit dated.

I still remember going to the toy store to pick up my physical copy of GTA 5 for the PC. Think it came on 3 DVDs in a nice case. The last physical game I bought.

 

[dcx4610]

Here we go again. Not falling for it this time. GTA 5 on PC was and is incredibly profitable for them. They want the double dip of you buying it on consoles and then when sales start to go down, they release it on PC for a bump.

I’m in no rush. I’ll wait on the PC version.

 

[rodrigolfp]

What do you mean?

Console warriors cheering on $70 bad IQ, bad performance, downgraded graphics/ screen aspect ratios, monster input lag, handicapped controls, no mods, paid online...

 

[GoldenEye98]

I don't have the same weird hatred towards Series S like many seem to have but I suspect the potential issue with a large dense open world game like GTA will be traffic/pedestrian density and draw distance.

I think resolution differences are somewhat overrated and this game is likely going to be running at 30fps regardless but lower traffic and pedestrian density can compromise the immersion a bit.

 

[Senua]

What do you mean?

The first page especially is just full of system wars shite

 

[charles8771]

Console warriors sheering on $70 bad IQ, bad performance, downgraded graphics/ screen aspect ratios, monster input lag, handicapped controls, no mods, paid online...

Input lag, bad perfomance?
Are we still in the 7th gen where games ran like a powerpoint slideshow?

 

[rodrigolfp]

Input lag, bad perfomance?
Are we still in the 7th gen where games ran like a powerpoint slideshow?

Did you miss RDR2 record input lag?

 

[twilo99]

Console warriors cheering on $70 bad IQ, bad performance, downgraded graphics/ screen aspect ratios, monster input lag, handicapped controls, no mods, paid online...

It will be more surprising if they didn’t ..

 

[GudOlRub]

Man, I missed that meme so much, I remember seeing versions for GTA V, then RDR2 and now GTA VI, life really is a circle.

 

[MidGenRefresh]

Shame but what can you do. I’ll play compromised version day one on a console. Thanks, Rockstar.

 

[charles8771]

Did you miss RDR2 record input lag?

It wasn't still bad as Undead Nightmare on PS3

 

[Windom Earle]

Yeah, not doing the dance this time. PS3 version pretty much ruined the PC version for me. Nothing can bring back that first experience. I can wait and this New Rockstar is not my thing anyway. All the good people left.

 

[rodrigolfp]

It wasn't still bad as Undead Nightmare on PS3

It is worse. Almost 500ms.

 

[damidu]

It is worse. Almost 500ms.

its not much better on pc, but you probably already know lol

 

[mckmas8808]

Take Two knows a bunch of folks won’t wait for the PC release and will reluctantly buy the console release so they don’t miss out. Then those folks will buy it again for PC when it ships a year later so they can run it at 60+ FPS with everything maxed on their 5090s.

It's the perfect plan. I'm glad Sony has learned from Rockstar with their 1st party games.

 

[rodrigolfp]

its not much better on pc, but you probably already know lol

You can get around half on pc.

 

[damidu]

You can get around half on pc.

yeah if you start saving today for a gpu to play this at 120fps. should line up nicely with the pc release date

 

[Windom Earle]

This game looks like a GTA5 mod so it should run on a potato.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

These reaction videos are funny af

 

[Banjo64]

I don't have the same weird hatred towards Series S like many seem to have but I suspect the potential issue with a large dense open world game like GTA will be traffic/pedestrian density and draw distance.

I think resolution differences are somewhat overrated and this game is likely going to be running at 30fps regardless but lower traffic and pedestrian density can compromise the immersion a bit.

As someone playing Hogwarts on Switch right now yeah, density is a big issue. Also depends how muddy they have to make it. I thought Elden Ring and Hogwarts looked like mush on Series S, TBH I think GTA is going to look like shit on it.

 

[Jayjayhd34]

I don't have the same weird hatred towards Series S like many seem to have but I suspect the potential issue with a large dense open world game like GTA will be traffic/pedestrian density and draw distance.

I think resolution differences are somewhat overrated and this game is likely going to be running at 30fps regardless but lower traffic and pedestrian density can compromise the immersion a bit.

Now everyone read this and, take long hard think about how much extra work the series s going need, and game can't come out till its done. I love some xvox games to death but I've saying this since series s wsd announced its going slow development down massively. Microsoft clearly was not thinking of developers when making it.

 

[DeaDPo0L84]

The insecurities on display here by people who can't afford nicer things is insane.

 

[Three]

I think in a cryptic way he's saying they're going to abandon that thing as some short lived "past gen" come 2025 with a possible new console/X revision.

 

[Rendered Tangent]

What is it with Rockstar and pc ports?

Is it simply a culture where they see themselves primarily as console developers and pc is just an afterthought?

Seems very strange, especially in 2023...well, 2025 at release.

 

[Kenpachii]

What is it with Rockstar and pc ports?

Is it simply a culture where they see themselves primarily as console developers and pc is just an afterthought?

Seems very strange, especially in 2023...well, 2025 at release.

It's a grift to push maximum profits forwards. Release the shitty version on consoles first that barely runs, then release the better version on PC, then release enhanced stuff + better version on next gen consoles, then update the PC version way later, then move to gta 7.

 

[ChiefDada]

 

[Flutta]

 

[Flutta]

Even when the leaks was happening I seen casuals all over socal networks saying " I have to get a PS5 for this"

What the hell has Xbox done to themselves?

Gamepass happened..

 

[FrankWza]

simply gut it to run on S or delay the game on Xbox like it has happened.

This place would explode.

 

[FrankWza]

Lol.

Crazy coming from him because he seems to sway green.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Gamepass happened..

Gamepass

 

[ZVWQP-9B8TM-VH9CT]

Not sure, but I can imagine MS offering a whole team of engineers to make sure all goes well. lol. GTA is too big.

yeah, those who created their success, redfall.

 

[Jayjayhd34]

What is it with Rockstar and pc ports?

Is it simply a culture where they see themselves primarily as console developers and pc is just an afterthought?

Seems very strange, especially in 2023...well, 2025 at release.

There putting most effort in the platforms generate the most money even as a primarily pc gamer it makes most sense.

 

[Jayjayhd34]

Crazy coming from him because he seems to sway green.

I don't even think the most die hard xbox fan could justify the existence of the series S

 

[H From Steps]

Fuck me guess I’ve hit a crossroad time to buy a console

 

[FrankWza]

I don't even think the most die hard xbox fan could justify the existence of the series S

 

[ReBurn]

lol savage

 

[charles8771]

What is it with Rockstar and pc ports?

Is it simply a culture where they see themselves primarily as console developers and pc is just an afterthought?

Seems very strange, especially in 2023...well, 2025 at release.

Its doesn't matter which year we are, technology evolves, some things change but some things remains the same.

The PC version of GTA 4 came out 8 months later and had zero optimization in which the highest end PC of 2008 struggle to run it.

Its more easier to develop games for consoles than PCs, because consoles are just one set of hardware/driver

 

[Moses85]

 

[Jayjayhd34]

I've been here while actually couple years ago when the gen was starting but think things like this the and the way games are running on system speak forselfs. You literally very blind not see how effecting game development.