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Firestorm said:
neojubei's posts in this topic about Vesperia PS3:(neutral) neojubei
is embarrassing.
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To get this straight... you have a 360, did not buy Tales of Vesperia, but can't wait so you're going to get both the JP and NA PS3 versions if possible?


Wow I didn't know I had a stalker. How about this plan, you buy me tales of versperia for 360 with your own money and I'll buy tales of versperia for Ps3 with my own money and we all win.
 
Firestorm said:
To get this straight... you have a 360, did not buy Tales of Vesperia, but can't wait so you're going to get both the JP and NA PS3 versions if possible?

You seem to be bothered by this but that appears to be his intentions.
 
I cannot believe this topic is going to be derailed for something like this. I'm also buying Tales of Versus and Tales of Graces if that matters.
 
rykomatsu said:
Of the 6 books worth of script, 1 supposedly is for skits, 1~2 is new dialogue (there were events w/o dialogue before), and the remaining 3 are from the 360. A lot of it is redoing the 360 version so that Patty can be integrated into the story according to one of the JPN gaming sites.
Well that makes sense. I was confused as 360 version had a crapton of dialog. If they make the NPCs voiced and add Patty as an actual addition instead of a character like Chat (Eternia) then that'd explain the extra content.

PepsimanVsJoe said:
I dunno about the skits. Series mainstay and all that sure but from what I remember of Symphonia and the bits and pieces of Abyss couldn't Namco/Bandai just relegate most of these into conversations during exploring/battles? Like you're in the middle of a bossfight and the main heroine blurts out she borrowed the main hero's toothbrush one night and the other two characters are all "oooooooooh".

Then again maybe they'll grow on me when I get into Vesperia since apparently this time around they're actually voiced.
I brought this up a while ago, but I think they should have the skits play at maybe 50% opacity while you're walking around. They shouldn't pause the game. Would make them a ton better and make the distance between towns feel shorter

Datschge said:
Well, looks like Tales Studio is (also?) involved:

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1491/046j.jpg

And the trailer shown at the event seems to look just like the one for RM2 by Taketoshi Inagaki (稲垣 武俊), with the mix of screens, illustrations and slanted texts. And the game seems to have 2D sprites battles as well?

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/6378/044c.jpg
Holy shit :o Also, imageshack is still banned for hotlinking.

Pankaks said:
Agh, why am I seeing Suzaku from Code Geass? :(.
Isn't it the same artist? Code Graces. I'm actually getting kinda hyped for this one now after hearing the battle system news.
 
AceBandage said:
Graces looks pretty good, especially screens like this:

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picture a side profile of this guy:

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totally long lost twins, separated at birth
 
Firestorm said:
Also, imageshack is still banned for hotlinking.
Heh, I never noticed that imagehosting.com just uploads to imageshack...

ToG's character designer is Inomata again, not CLAMP.
 
neojubei said:
Wow I didn't know I had a stalker. How about this plan, you buy me tales of versperia for 360 with your own money and I'll buy tales of versperia for Ps3 with my own money and we all win.

Shame about your post history. If you weren't so quick to seemingly gloat (so often) at negative 360 news, people wouldn't look so closely at what you post in a thread like this.

I get where you're coming from in this case, but there's a reason people keep doing this to you. :lol

And man, that tag sucks. You really came off like the worst this forum has to offer.
 
Regarding tales of vesperia (in general), I remember reading an interview about the game. The producer and or director mentioned that the plot/themes/ and characters were more "adult" in a sense compared to past titles. For anyone that's completed the game without going into spoilers and such was this true?
 
gregor7777 said:
Shame about your post history. If you weren't so quick to seemingly gloat (so often) at negative 360 news, people wouldn't look so closely at what you post in a thread like this.

I get where you're coming from in this case, but there's a reason people keep doing this to you. :lol

And man, that tag sucks. You really came off like the worst this forum has to offer.

Well I got mine just because my username was spelled as "Hero of legend", they capitalize the "l". :P
 
I didn't even realize it was a different game until I did a double take :lol
Urban Scholar said:
Regarding tales of vesperia (in general), I remember reading an interview about the game. The producer and or director mentioned that the plot/themes/ and characters were more "adult" in a sense compared to past titles. For anyone that's completed the game without going into spoilers and such was this true?
There are parts of the game that this is true for. Definitely true for. Then it goes into typical Tales territory for the last quarter of the game.
 
Thinking about this, the fact that there is a new character that is requiring that they rewrite parts of the script and add new dialog makes me worried about the English release.

Who says they won't just add the new Japanese text/dialog/skits and be done with it?

If it wasn't for the additions, I'd say the chances would be higher for a Western release. Sooner at the very least. All the localization work would have been done.

Hero of Legend said:
Well I got mine just because my username was spelled as "Hero of legend", they capitalize the "l". :P


Yours is funny though.
 
Really tho they could just offer both language tracks and just keep the existing English language track without voices during the new scenes.
 
Firestorm said:
I didn't even realize it was a different game until I did a double take :lol
There are parts of the game that this is true for. Definitely true for. Then it goes into typical Tales territory for the last quarter of the game.

overall it sounds definitely like something to look forward to in that regard
 
Repeating what I said in the other thread, I think by now and after the sales of DotNW, ToV, RM, TotA and ToL, Hometek would know well enough the Tales userbase and its average size here to pull an Atlus for RM2, VS and ToG [at least that's what I'm hoping for]...
 
AceBandage said:
They are shifting focus from the 360 to the PS3, while leaving the same amount of focus on the PSP and Wii.
At least, that's what I assume with my limited understanding of graphs.

Leveraging last year's success with the 360 to further broaden next-gen console development with the PS3....or something like that, translated crudely/roughly.
 
gregor7777 said:
Shame about your post history. If you weren't so quick to seemingly gloat (so often) at negative 360 news, people wouldn't look so closely at what you post in a thread like this.

I get where you're coming from in this case, but there's a reason people keep doing this to you. :lol

And man, that tag sucks. You really came off like the worst this forum has to offer.


Come off as the worst this forum has to offer? I do not engage in personal attacks so I won't stoop to your level. I really do not care for negative 360 news as that is not what I am about. I spend my money my own way, I have a 360 and I purchase whatever games I want for it, if that hurts someone here then I'm sorry but I earn my own money and spend it the way I see fit. The tag was just for something dumb and not meant to be malicious in anyway since I am a fan of Nintendo games and I do have a Wii. That thread is one of my favorites here and my tag lets me link to that thread pretty fast when I want to view it. I could just edit what I wrote but hey what is written is written so I just have to live with the tag, I have no ill will against anyone here.
 
neojubei said:
Come off as the worst this forum has to offer? I do not engage in personal attacks so I won't stoop to your level. I really do not care for negative 360 news as that is not what I am about. I spend my money my own way, I have a 360 and I purchase whatever games I want for it, if that hurts someone here then I'm sorry but I earn my own money and spend it the way I see fit. The tag was just for something dumb and not meant to be malicious in anyway since I am a fan of Nintendo games and I do have a Wii. That thread is one of my favorites here and my tag lets me link to that thread pretty fast when I want to view it. I could just edit what I wrote but hey what is written is written so I just have to live with the tag, I have no ill will against anyone here.
I think the thing that people are really having trouble with is the idea that you have a console but yet you refuse to play games you're obviously interested in on it. It's difficult to resolve that line of reasoning. For most people, the only thing standing between them and a game they're interested in is not having the proper console to play it on. Yes, it's your money, and it's really nobody else's business, but you'll have to forgive people for not being able to 'get it.'
 
Aeana said:
I think the thing that people are really having trouble with is the idea that you have a console but yet you refuse to play games you're obviously interested in on it. It's difficult to resolve that line of reasoning. For most people, the only thing standing between them and a game they're interested in is not having the proper console to play it on. Yes, it's your money, and it's really nobody else's business, but you'll have to forgive people for not being able to 'get it.'


Yea I suppose. Some of my friends always ask me why I do not have cable TV and I say I just do not want it, I guess they must feel the same way. I do not want to derail this topic any further than it is now.

As for Tales of Versperia I am excited for the extra content. I'm glad I didn't spoil myself looking at the ending on youtube.
 
Firestorm said:
neojubei's posts in this topic about Vesperia PS3:(neutral) neojubei
is embarrassing.
(Today, 07:19 AM)
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To get this straight... you have a 360, did not buy Tales of Vesperia, but can't wait so you're going to get both the JP and NA PS3 versions if possible?

I don't think neojubei has a 360. He just probably a PS3 only owner.
 
Kasumi1970 said:
I don't think neojubei has a 360. He just probably a PS3 only owner.


Who cares?????? This thread isn't even about this. Its like I'm in a cult and if I do not buy everything 360 people want to stone me to death. Whether I have a 360 or not it does not make a difference on how I spend my money or what games I want to purchase.
 
WYWY said:
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Sorry, but as much as I like to think of myself as being extremely tolerant where visuals are concerned, even for a (Gamecube x 2), this is GARBAGE.


Agreed, but the Tales games are garbage also so at least theres cohesion.
 
lol what happened in here...

I hope the redhead is the heroine, I like her design. If someone's going to die kill off the loli. :|

Puncture said:
Agreed, but the Tales games are garbage also so at least theres cohesion.

That sure contributed a lot. :P
 
neojubei said:
Yea I suppose. Some of my friends always ask me why I do not have cable TV and I say I just do not want it, I guess they must feel the same way. I do not want to derail this topic any further than it is now.

As for Tales of Versperia I am excited for the extra content. I'm glad I didn't spoil myself looking at the ending on youtube.
I think a better analogy is you own both cable and satellite tv. A show launches on a cable channel and you say you're not interested. Then when it is announced for a satellite channel you're all hyped up and waiting for every piece of information on it saying you'll watch it twice every week it airs in two different languages (one of which you probably don't understand).

Anyhoo, I'd love more info on Tales of VS' sprites thing.
 
Firestorm said:
I think a better analogy is you own both cable and satellite tv. A show launches on a cable channel and you say you're not interested. Then when it is announced for a satellite channel you're all hyped up and waiting for every piece of information on it saying you'll watch it twice every week it airs in two different languages (one of which you probably don't understand).
as much you want to troll him, in hindsight he made the right choice it seems. between this and the similar derail in the ngs2 thread, these are a couple of games that seem to have been worth the wait. everyone has their own personal reasons that mean a lot to them to decide what games to buy for what consoles they own, and as trivial as it may seem to you it clearly has significance in their decisions. people like you need to understand that not everyone in the world shares the same opinions and philosophies about media consumption.
 
Awntawn said:
as much you want to troll him, in hindsight he made the right choice it seems. between this and the similar derail in the ngs2 thread, these are a couple of games that seem to have been worth the wait. everyone has their own personal reasons that mean a lot to them to decide what games to buy for what consoles they own, and as trivial as it may seem to you it clearly has significance in their decisions. people like you need to understand that not everyone in the world shares the same opinions and philosophies about media consumption.
That media should be judged by the content, not the platform they're on? I honestly don't see anything wrong with waiting in the hopes for a more content-filled experience. I just think that when that same person says they'll buy a Japanese version and then the English version of the game, something's up.

Personally, I'd say buying the 360 version and then the PS3 version makes more sense than passing on the 360 version to buy the JP and EN version of the PS3 game. Does being on PS3 really make a game that important? The only reason to pass on the 360 version is so you don't buy it twice when the version with more content comes out. He's saying he'll buy the game twice with the same amount of content on both.
 
The guy's a PS3 fanboy... just drop it lol.
As another PS3 fanboy, I support his endeavor of buying two copies.
I think I'll only dip once though!
 
neojubei said:
Who cares?????? This thread isn't even about this. Its like I'm in a cult and if I do not buy everything 360 people want to stone me to death. Whether I have a 360 or not it does not make a difference on how I spend my money or what games I want to purchase.
nobody would care if you didn't pretend like you own a 360 as an excuse to troll the system.
 
Firestorm said:
That media should be judged by the content, not the platform they're on? I honestly don't see anything wrong with waiting in the hopes for a more content-filled experience. I just think that when that same person says they'll buy a Japanese version and then the English version of the game, something's up.

Personally, I'd say buying the 360 version and then the PS3 version makes more sense than passing on the 360 version to buy the JP and EN version of the PS3 game. Does being on PS3 really make a game that important? The only reason to pass on the 360 version is so you don't buy it twice when the version with more content comes out. He's saying he'll buy the game twice with the same amount of content on both.


Wow. I never knew my purchasing habits are so important. I'm already buying a 70 dollar demo with a free movie attached, so why does it matter if i buy the Jpn version of the game. I don't why is such an issue if I never ever buy the 360 version. After Eternal Sonanta I thought might as well just wait for the RPGs to be ported.

firex said:
nobody would care if you didn't pretend like you own a 360 as an excuse to troll the system.

This is getting so insane. Troll what? There are people that prance around saying that they buy all their multiplatform games on 360 and use their ps3 as a blu-ray player, but me I do not even say such things I just buy games when I want.

Can we just kill this argument I am not even sure what the point is anymore.
 
Aeana said:
I think the thing that people are really having trouble with is the idea that you have a console but yet you refuse to play games you're obviously interested in on it.

Don't think it's so hard to fathom that people prefer to play a game on one system or another, even if they own both. Hell, i wouldn't have bought ToV for 360 if I didn't find it used in a bargain bin for under 2000yen, but I would have (and still will) bought the PS3 version for full price.
 
firex said:
nobody would care if you didn't pretend like you own a 360 as an excuse to troll the system.
It is possible to own both and prefer one over the other. I don't see him trolling anything here, just people attempting to throw down on a subject that is rather pointless in a thread that was mostly cordial.
 
neojubei said:
Come off as the worst this forum has to offer? I do not engage in personal attacks so I won't stoop to your level. I really do not care for negative 360 news as that is not what I am about. I spend my money my own way, I have a 360 and I purchase whatever games I want for it, if that hurts someone here then I'm sorry but I earn my own money and spend it the way I see fit. The tag was just for something dumb and not meant to be malicious in anyway since I am a fan of Nintendo games and I do have a Wii. That thread is one of my favorites here and my tag lets me link to that thread pretty fast when I want to view it. I could just edit what I wrote but hey what is written is written so I just have to live with the tag, I have no ill will against anyone here.

Didn't mean for it to sound like an attack. :lol It wasn't. I was just trying to point something out to you.
 
WinFonda said:
It is possible to own both and prefer one over the other. I don't see him trolling anything here, just people attempting to throw down on a subject that is rather pointless in a thread that was mostly cordial.
seriously, it's not like he's running around screaming "lolxβox360" or something.
 
rykomatsu said:
Don't think it's so hard to fathom that people prefer to play a game on one system or another, even if they own both. Hell, i wouldn't have bought ToV for 360 if I didn't find it used in a bargain bin for under 2000yen, but I would have (and still will) bought the PS3 version for full price.
It's one thing if a version is announced for your preferred console... another entirely if it's not. It is hard to fathom that someone would forgo playing a game entirely just because it's not on their preferred console, if they own the console it is available for. I mean, why do you even own the other console if you're not going to play games that are available for it?
 
Can we just change the topic title to "Tales of this guy wants to make his own purchasing decisions"?

BACK ON TOPIC GUYS!

I think Graces is definitely a step up graphically over DotNW, especially the color, I felt DotNW looked really washed out. :(

Also, I'd kill for a Abyss port for Wii, with added 16:9, and 480p and DPLII if it didn't already have them. The game graphically isn't much worse than DotNW.

New content would be a nice bonus, but not a deal breaker, as I never played it!

But... I could always just get it on the PS2. I've seen it around, and I think it's around $40.

But if it happened, I'd definitely get it on the Wii.

May as well get the PS2 version, it's not even that likely of a Wii port happening anyway, plus I got Klonoa 2 for PS2, just in case BN decided against remaking that.
 
I don't feel like making a new topic about this, but I started playing the original Tales of Destiny on the PS1 a few days ago. I'm not very far into it, but despite being a huge fan of this series since Symphonia I'm just really not feeling the game so far. The combat is really slow and kinda boring and the dialog really seems to be juvenile so far. It honestly doesn't feel like the Tales games I'm used to and love. Does it get any better? I would play the remake but the lack of English dialog is a deal breaker and the translation patch is pretty far out. I'm sorta feeling like giving Eternia a shot though, combat looks a lot better at least.
 
neojubei said:
Who cares?????? This thread isn't even about this. Its like I'm in a cult and if I do not buy everything 360 people want to stone me to death. Whether I have a 360 or not it does not make a difference on how I spend my money or what games I want to purchase.

I'll actually side with you on this issue, it's your money and you spend it however the hell you want, if you want to wait for a late enhanced port, you wait for a late enhanced port, I remember last generation I bought a gamecube first and bought plenty of games for it, but then after I bought the PS2, I think I only bought 1 game for the gamecube. I don't know why people care how others spend their money.

Firestorm said:
That media should be judged by the content, not the platform they're on? I honestly don't see anything wrong with waiting in the hopes for a more content-filled experience. I just think that when that same person says they'll buy a Japanese version and then the English version of the game, something's up.

Personally, I'd say buying the 360 version and then the PS3 version makes more sense than passing on the 360 version to buy the JP and EN version of the PS3 game. Does being on PS3 really make a game that important? The only reason to pass on the 360 version is so you don't buy it twice when the version with more content comes out. He's saying he'll buy the game twice with the same amount of content on both.

Why do you care how he spends his money? Are you paying his bills? Does he owe you money?


EDIT: Anyways, if they put up a demo on PSN and it doesn't suck like the Eternal Sonata demo then I might consider buying it after a price drop to < $30.
 
I don't "care how he spends his money" so much as I am tired of his justification of "I held out for the version with more content" when it doesn't fit logically. He's just a Sony fanchild plain and simple. I don't see how you can go from not having interest in a game to being as excited as he's been in this topic just from a simple console port.

ZealousD said:
I don't feel like making a new topic about this, but I started playing the original Tales of Destiny on the PS1 a few days ago. I'm not very far into it, but despite being a huge fan of this series since Symphonia I'm just really not feeling the game so far. The combat is really slow and kinda boring and the dialog really seems to be juvenile so far. It honestly doesn't feel like the Tales games I'm used to and love. Does it get any better? I would play the remake but the lack of English dialog is a deal breaker and the translation patch is pretty far out. I'm sorta feeling like giving Eternia a shot though, combat looks a lot better at least.
Nah, Eternia's not that much better I don't think. Iplayed it and found it sort of bland. It's hard going back from a newer entry in the series to an older one. The changes in each game seem subtle but they're actually pretty significant. Just wait for the Destiny Remake fan trasnlation instead of playing ToD.
 
-Sidestepping allows movement in a 360 degree angle around the enemy and other maneuvers.

I HEARD YOU LIKE ZELDA SO WE PUT MORE ZELDA IN YA TALES SO YOU CAN PLAY MORE ZELDA

or something like that
 
AranhaHunter said:
EDIT: Anyways, if they put up a demo on PSN and it doesn't suck like the Eternal Sonata demo then I might consider buying it after a price drop to < $30.

The demo on the Marketplace is ass, you don't really wanna judge the game playing the demo.
 
Nah, Eternia's not that much better I don't think. Iplayed it and found it sort of bland. It's hard going back from a newer entry in the series to an older one.
I, on the other hand, think Eternia still holds up pretty well (and think the original Destiny has aged very poorly). I view it as the perfection of the root 2D Tales battle system, before they went all experimental on it with every game that followed.

Then again, I've been a fan of the series for 11 years. It was an amazing evolution over both versions of ToP and ToD back in its day. It's much, much faster than those, doesn't pause the action during large spells, and the AI teammates don't just stand around like complete morons.
 
Rpgmonkey said:
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http://tog.namco-ch.net
Releasing: This Winter
Genre: "Understand the Power to Protect RPG"
-Main character is Asbel Lol Lhant. 18 Years old, from the Lhant territory of the Windlol Country.
-Uses the Style Shift Linear Motion four-word Battle System, which lets characters have more than one fighting style. You can set skills to the A and B button on the Wii remote.
-Sidestepping allows movement in a 360 degree angle around the enemy and other maneuvers.
-Compatible with the Classic Controller Pro.
-Animation scenes done by Production I.G. like always
-May have reused assets due to its existence on the Wii
-Sales may suffer from a backlash due to ToS2's medicore quality. If so, PS2 port will arrive shortly after. Very shortly after. Almost as if it was ready to go at Wii version's launch.

Early screenshots: http://www.4gamer.net/games/088/G008879/20090406045/screenshot.html?num=021

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http://tov.namco-ch.net/ps3/
Releasing: This Fall
-Enhanced, in-your-face bragging rights port of the 360 game "Tales of Vesperia. If you want to know more about it, look it up.
-Has numerous changes/additions you can troll 360 fanboys with:
*New logo
*New character, Patty Fleur, voiced by Chiwa Saito.
*New boss
*New Hi Ougi/Mystic Artes
*New story scenes
*New side quests
*Fully voiced
*Lots of other new voiced content
*New animated scenes
*New costumes
*Content in movie to tie in with the game
*Was made to make neojubei happy
*Will be packaged with free money
*Will contain an option to remotely RRoD a 360 owner's inferior system and copy.
*Is secretly the real mainline Tales game for 2009 (Wii what?)

Early screenshots: http://www.4gamer.net/games/088/G008881/20090406038/screenshot.html?num=049

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http://to-vs.namco-ch.net
Releasing: This Summer
-Action game using Tales characters
-35 characters from 13 Tales games
-Uses a LMBS battle system
-Use Grade points to level and customize characters
-Story mode, minigames, etc., etc.
-Cast:
*Luke Fon Fabre (Tales of the Abyss)
*Richter Abend (Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World)
*Yuri Lowell (Tales of Vesperia)
*Shing Meteoryte (Tales of Hearts)
*Yes, we want good 3D RPG Fighting games to happen on PSP.

Early screenshots: http://www.4gamer.net/games/088/G008879/20090406045/screenshot.html?num=037

Tales of Vesperia: The First Strike

Credit goes to Duckroll for all this:


No, none of these have been confirmed for English releases yet.

Fixed. : )
 
cress2000 said:
I, on the other hand, think Eternia still holds up pretty well (and think the original Destiny has aged very poorly). I view it as the perfection of the root 2D Tales battle system, before they went all experimental on it with every game that followed.

This. And I hope with ToG there will be finally one to do the same for the 3D Tales battle system. Side stepping instead(!) free run would be a great first step in that direction.
 
The Vesperia demo is hot ass. You don't want it. It ranks up there with the worst ever. It's not that it's the worst ever on its own merit, it's just that the game is so good relative to the demo that it's shameful.
 
I think Grace's system will make a lot of progress at bringing what's usually played like a 2D Fighting game, to something that now plays more like a 3D one.

Something I think Free Run didn't do. It's hardly bad or anything because of it, but I think it moved in a slightly different path than where this seems to be going with a 3D system.

Linkup said:
I HEARD YOU LIKE ZELDA SO WE PUT MORE ZELDA IN YA TALES SO YOU CAN PLAY MORE ZELDA

or something like that

I was thinking what I said above, but Zelda never even crossed my mind until you said that. It actually fits pretty well, lol.
 
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