That's probably the upper end of my price range. Hoping to not go curved though.How much is breaking the bank?
LG C6 has been down to $1500 for the 55" and has 34ms of input lag in 4K HDR after the latest update.
That's probably the upper end of my price range. Hoping to not go curved though.How much is breaking the bank?
LG C6 has been down to $1500 for the 55" and has 34ms of input lag in 4K HDR after the latest update.
The difference between 65" and 75" is massive - 33% larger area.
IPS panels may not have the best contrast but are better than VA panels in every other way.
VA panels have clouding problems, very slow response times with dark colors, ugly gamma and color shifting with wide viewing angles.
With large VA panels, the viewing angle problems are clearly visible in the corners of the screen even if you are sitting directly in front of it. Anyone sitting off-center gets a bad image.
That Sony is probably not what I would have bought, but it really depends on what your priorities are.
What is your current speaker set-up? If it is only 5.1 you could save yourself some cash and use the optical out of your new TV (make sure the one you buy has one first obviously)
I just downloaded the Amazon Video app on my LG E6 - I thought it supported 4K and HDR? I'm in Canada if that makes a difference.
Huh. I'm not seeing it in the app....It does but you need to play the 4K HDR supported video on the app. Amazon lists two different versions for some reason.
Are there no good sub-40" 4K HDR sets? I want something for my bedroom and anything bigger is overkill. I'm looking around but am worried about wasting money on "Fake HDR" or some Sharp shit I found at Walmart that's listed as 4K but apparently doesn't even support the form of HDMI required for it or something.
Hate being almost completely in the dark here. :/ Lots of TVs also seem to be difficult to find reviews for apart from the huge $1000+ ones.
I agree with all your points, but even if I sat at an angle, I'd still never buy an IPS display! But also some of these IPS panels have terrible uniformity with dark scenes, most of those issues that VA panels have can be overcome with buying quality, and maybe some dark streaking and faded corners you can't beat, but for enthusiasts like most of us, an IPS in whatever situation will never be an option.
The difference between 65" and 75" is massive - 33% larger area.
IPS panels may not have the best contrast but are better than VA panels in every other way.
VA panels have clouding problems, very slow response times with dark colors, ugly gamma and color shifting with wide viewing angles.
With large VA panels, the viewing angle problems are clearly visible in the corners of the screen even if you are sitting directly in front of it. Anyone sitting off-center gets a bad image.
That Sony is probably not what I would have bought, but it really depends on what your priorities are.
No, there aren't any. Manufacturers don't care about >40", and it shows. All you're going to find is edge-lit garbage, with weak blacks/brightness, and terrible contrast ratios. If you do find an under 40" HDR, it'll be HDR in name only.
I bought one for general purpose family use and it's good. Rarely does it get viewed in low light and almost always in moderate light. Viewing angles are very wide so VA wasn't an option. I still feel it was a good call. If Sony or LG comes thru with a fantastic bunch of OLED improvements in the next few years I'll slide my current OLED in there, which I think would be ideal.
I just downloaded the Amazon Video app on my LG E6 - I thought it supported 4K and HDR? I'm in Canada if that makes a difference.
Same here. Not getting any hdr and can't find specific content. I'm from France and we finally have access starting today.Huh. I'm not seeing it in the app....
FALD is very space intensive. That's why it is normally offered in 65" or up. It also makes no sense to offer expensive technology in some situations sizes meant for the budget conscious.No, there aren't any. Manufacturers don't care about >40", and it shows. All you're going to find is edge-lit garbage, with weak blacks/brightness, and terrible contrast ratios. If you do find an under 40" HDR, it'll be HDR in name only.
Huh. I'm not seeing it in the app....
Same here. Not getting any hdr and can't find specific content. I'm from France and we finally have access starting today.
Everything works for me internet wise, I have 4K/HDR with Netflix working fine via the TV app.does your internet speed support 4K?
are you using wireless or wired connection?
My Amazon App was acting funny a few days ago... but after exiting out and back in, it labeled the titles correctly. I was testing Mad Dogs...then watched the second episode of Grand Tour.
Everything works for me internet wise, I have 4K/HDR with Netflix working fine via the TV app.
It's a tough decision because TVs are typically only using 1000:1 IPS panels compared to the ~1700:1 panels appearing in mobile devices.I agree with all your points, but even if I sat at an angle, I'd still never buy an IPS display! But also some of these IPS panels have terrible uniformity with dark scenes, most of those issues that VA panels have can be overcome with buying quality, and maybe some dark streaking and faded corners you can't beat, but for enthusiasts like most of us, an IPS in whatever situation will never be an option.
Well those are different issues.Backlight uniformity is even worse on an IPS panel (+ IPS glow)
Yeah same for me, everything is peachy on Netflix. Locked in 1080p on Amazon though on both the ps4 pro and the LG app.Everything works for me internet wise, I have 4K/HDR with Netflix working fine via the TV app.
A bit of a pain, eh? I sent an email to Amazon, I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't include it on purpose to fast track the app.Yeah same for me, everything is peachy on Netflix. Locked in 1080p on Amazon though on both the ps4 pro and the LG app.
Yeah, I was looking forward to finally watching The Grand Tour in HDR tonight. Guess not.A bit of a pain, eh? I sent an email to Amazon, I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't include it on purpose to fast track the app.
Well those are different issues.
Clouding/Mura is typically a VA problem and it's a panel uniformity issue.
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I'm wondering if I should invest in an a/v receiver just to connect multiple devices to my C6 TV since it only has 3 HDMI ports...
My sound setup is pretty crappy (I have 2.1 Logitech speakers and RS 185 sennheiser wireless headphone) so I'm thinking av receiver may actually be overkill, but then I need a device that can support 4k@60hz 4:4:4 (for pc) so HDMI switch is out of question.
I'm currently looking at Onkyo TX-NR545, price seems decent and it offers 6 HDMI ports, though I'm still not sure if I should get one or just get a 4k switcher for other devices and plug my PC directly to the TV...
Sorry if this isn't the right place but I need some confirmation Audiophile GAF!
My theatre system went pop on Sunday just gone so I've been looking for a replacement. A couple of years ago my mum bought an ONKYO TX-SR577...and she want's to give it to me (she want's to buy a Q Acoustics M4 Soundbar instead - very nice).
Awesome, right! Except it's HDMI 1.3a!!
I want to connect my PS4 Pro to it...will there be any incompatibility with this AV Receiver? I know I can use Optical Out for audio but I thought PS4 and PS4 Pro used HDMI 1.4 for video.
OK. When I get a 4K TV I can continue to run Optical to the receiver for sound and connect my PS4 Pro directly to the TV via HDMI for 4k...rather than doing it all through a single HDMI.Yes that will be an issue, you need HDMI 2.0a with HDCP 2.2 for full compatibility with the Pro.
OK. When I get a 4K TV I can continue to run Optical to the receiver for sound and connect my PS4 Pro directly to the TV via HDMI for 4k...rather than doing it all through a single HDMI.
Thank you.
I'll have a look tonight for you!I'm not sure how Motionflow settings are named now in newer models. Impulse was the old name for the backlight strobing mode. But just turn on Game Mode and see if anything Motionflow-related is available.
I will try this tonight after work and let you know how I go!The Resi 7 demo has 2 calibration modes for HDR, one for peak nit brightness which goes up to 2000, and another for general HDR brightness, mine gets to 1400 till the box disappears, see what you think.
Haha that's when you know it's a decent set. My girlfriend insisted that she wouldn't be able to tell the difference and it'll be "just a TV", but then she was left speechless in awe during certain shots in The Revenant, she actually started laughing at how good it looked haha!I watched the Secret Life of Pets via UHB Blu-Ray/HDR on the B6. Good christ that was stunning. My wife, who doesn't give a wit about picture quality/HDR, blah blah walked in the room and was like "Wow, that looks amazing!".
Love this TV.
Devils advocate, but wouldn't LG having the most recent multi-year experience with OLED give them a leg up over Sony and Panasonic? I'm a huge fan of Sony AND Panasonic TVs (love my plasma with a fiery passion), but I'm not sure I expect their 2017 models to be significantly better than LGs (and they will most likely be more expensive, rumor aside).
Thoughts?
Devils advocate, but wouldn't LG having the most recent multi-year experience with OLED give them a leg up over Sony and Panasonic? I'm a huge fan of Sony AND Panasonic TVs (love my plasma with a fiery passion), but I'm not sure I expect their 2017 models to be significantly better than LGs (and they will most likely be more expensive, rumor aside).
Thoughts?
I'd expect pretty big things from Sony and Panasonic, they both have excellent image processing!Devils advocate, but wouldn't LG having the most recent multi-year experience with OLED give them a leg up over Sony and Panasonic? I'm a huge fan of Sony AND Panasonic TVs (love my plasma with a fiery passion), but I'm not sure I expect their 2017 models to be significantly better than LGs (and they will most likely be more expensive, rumor aside).
Thoughts?
Well, Sony will be using LG panels and applying their own image processing and Smart TV OS. I think at the very least Sony's OLED will be better than LG's 2016 models at handling sub 4K content and possibly shadow detail. It's not possible to improve the blacks, and I doubt they'll squeeze more brightness out of the panels than LG has so far.
It'll be interesting to see who's 2017 model is better though (if Sony even releases one).
Yeah, well said...I guess the bolded is what I'm trying to say.
Curious to see if another manufacturer will be cheaper than LG for OLED since others likely won't be supporting Dolby Vision.
Honestly, I think the Sony will be due to the interface and x1 chip. First part is all subjective, but the x1 is just amazing
I believe it was thought the Xbox One uses the same linear gamma line as the 360 resulting in non-optimal results when calibrating. If game devs adjust for it, you shouldn't get crushed blacks. If they didn't, then it will crush. Earlier games having the most issues.
http://filmicgames.com/archives/14
There was lots of threads about, especially around launch.
2013
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=722069
2015
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=988325
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=869927
Yeah I'd opt for WebOS over Android or Firefox OS personally, but the X1 is pretty good at processing.
I wonder which OLEDs will remove 3D and push brightness as high as possible.
Any good rundowns of the Sony rumors? Just heard them for the first time today in this thread.The rumored Sony prices sound to be in line with current prices. So here's hoping 2017 pricing is lower all around
I imagine most will. If they could get OLED to about 1000 bits without aggressive ABL it'll be glorious.Yeah I'd opt for WebOS over Android or Firefox OS personally, but the X1 is pretty good at processing.
I wonder which OLEDs will remove 3D and push brightness as high as possible.
Any good rundowns of the Sony rumors? Just heard them for the first time today in this thread.
I imagine most will. If they could get OLED to about 1000 bits without aggressive ABL it'll be glorious.
Not too bad for their first run of OLED
That's basically half of what the E6 launched at in the US I think. Didn't think prices would come down that drastically.