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Testimonies of Hell.

The physical realm is located in the center of the earth. Like Physically. This is where the souls go.


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So every time a volcano blows, that's bits of Hell escaping and turning to rock?

Isn't Hell supposed to be eternal? That's a bit awkward seeing as Earth has a shelf life linked to the death of our Sun.
 
I was told that heaven is "where everything you've ever lost returns to you."

If that is true, then is hell where you keep losing everything, or are reminded of those losses for eternity?
 
I find the concept of hell, eternal damnation, etc. to be stupid. I'm agnostic myself, but I cannot fathom how can someone deserve en ETERNITY of excruciating pain.

Could also be it's just the natural state of things. It might not be as much of deserving that but it might be how things just are. If you are in tune with the source of love, you will naturally be there when you die. If you are not in tune in any way with the source of love, you just logically and naturally can't be part of that and you will be part of the opposite of it and the extreme lack of it. God is a magnet that attracts when polarities are in balance and repels when polarities are out of balance.
 
I was told that heaven is "where everything you've ever lost returns to you."

If that is true, then is hell where you keep losing everything, or are reminded of those losses for eternity?
Aren't these two statements mutually exclusive? How can you be reunited with a lost loved one in heaven if they're in hell?
 
What if your a flat earther?
Flat Earthers actually do believe in Hell.

The Earth is actually encased in a dome (the Firmament) and there's Hell beneath the Earth, deep below. On the sides are some great ocean and beyond the dome is Heaven.

It's kinda like the old Greek mythology cosmology. If you played God of War 1 - 3 it's kinda like that.
 
Could also be it's just the natural state of things. It might not be as much of deserving that but it might be how things just are. If you are in tune with the source of love, you will naturally be there when you die. If you are not in tune in any way with the source of love, you just logically and naturally can't be part of that and you will be part of the opposite of it and the extreme lack of it. God is a magnet that attracts when polarities are in balance and repels when polarities are out of balance.

I agree with that and portraits my vision of the afterlife better than a black and white hell and heaven.

If you are evil, it's not that you are punished with hell fire but where your very essence drives that person it would be hell for a soul of light.
 
I was told that heaven is "where everything you've ever lost returns to you."

If that is true, then is hell where you keep losing everything, or are reminded of those losses for eternity?

What is there to lose? Loss is only change and change is a constant. The idea of permanence, of ownership, is the misunderstanding.
 

I actually read a third of it before giving up. Nothing there that would change my mind about Earth's core in the slightest, but if you have a strong belief I can see why you'd find it convincing.

All that stuff about Jesus not being aware of volcanoes and the core is pretty meaningless. Stories of volcanoes would have spread far and wide, but even so, fire is a natural thing to depict a place of pain. If Hell had been described as a barren land of darkness and ice, that author would have just said 'how could Jesus have known about Antarctica?'

Anyway, we know the Earth formed over 4 billion years ago, and we know it will die when the Sun eventually dies. Was Hell just sat there in the middle of the planet until 80 thousand years ago when humans eventually showed up? It's only 5 thousand years since humans started forming societies. 5 thousand years v 4.5 billion years that 'Hell' existed inside the Earth. Come on, that's clearly ridiculous. Was Satan roasting naughty dinosaurs?

Serious question; how would a person exist in Hell? Clearly it's not a physical body as the remains stay on Earth. Is it a ghost? Does a person take up space? How far back does the choice of who goes to Hell extend? Christianity? The ancient Greeks? Egypt? Cavemen?

To be burning in Hell there would have to be some physical presence capable of being burnt. If volcanoes are evidence of Hell as you seem to believe, we know it's physical larva and fire. However, even a small fraction of all humans who have died (an estimated 107 billion) would physically and vastly outnumber the size of the Earth's core.

And again, what happens when Earth eventually dies?

Lastly, the Earth would die without the core, so are you saying Hell is good?
 
Lastly, the Earth would die without the core, so are you saying Hell is good?

This is always an interesting philosophical moral conundrum imo. Everything can only be measured in context of opposition. We understand white because of black, light because of dark, hot because of cold, good because of evil, etc.

Any condition is only perceivable due to contrast. In other words, "good" utterly depends upon "evil". Without it, it would be nothing at all. So is evil good and vice versa? They cannot exist in isolation. In order to make any claim of "goodness" you must acknowledge your dependence upon its opposite.

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This is real hell on Earth.
The first link above is CIA censored!
You'll notice it is around 68 pages (give or take). I don't want you read it!
I want you all to read this uncensored version.
This is the reality of what is going to happen.
 
This is always an interesting philosophical moral conundrum imo. Everything can only be measured in context of opposition. We understand white because of black, light because of dark, hot because of cold, good because of evil, etc.

Any condition is only perceivable due to contrast. In other words, "good" utterly depends upon "evil". Without it, it would be nothing at all. So is evil good and vice versa? They cannot exist in isolation. In order to make any claim of "goodness" you must acknowledge your dependence upon its opposite.

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Ying Yang.

I don't think evil exists, just extreme levels of good and bad. A lot of terrible things have happened because of people acting in ways that they believed to be good. Serial killers generally suffer from some form of mental illness that makes them extremely bad rather than actually evil. Perhaps it's just semantics and 'evil' is just another word for extremely bad.

Nietzsche said that it was Christianity that first painted the image of the devil on the door of the world. Not exactly true, as there have been many embodiments of 'evil' such as Set, but yeah the general point is that things are defined by their opposite. Heaven is the promise, Hell is the threat. Probably better explained by Plato's model and copy argument, with the ideal and its gradually deteriorating attempts to live up to the highest standards. From the pure 'just' to the unequivocally 'unjust'.

If by some miracle it's not a load of lies to keep people from 2,000 years ago in check, I'm pretty sure I'll be fine. I've never caused such violent scenes as Jesus during the cleansing of the temple, so if that's the tolerated benchmark it's all good.
 
If you go to hell, you don't get back out.

If by some miracle it's not a load of lies to keep people from 2,000 years ago in check, I'm pretty sure I'll be fine. I've never caused such violent scenes as Jesus during the cleansing of the temple, so if that's the tolerated benchmark it's all good.

That is indeed the benchmark. If you're every bit as good as Jesus you're in the clear.
 
If you go to hell, you don't get back out.



That is indeed the benchmark. If you're every bit as good as Jesus you're in the clear.

Well I've never trashed a business.

Just imagining a hypothetical news report from the time...

"Out of nowhere this angry hippie and his gang ransacked our place of work. The guy was whipping us. Literally whipping us. He was kicking over tables and threw us out on the street. How am I going to support my wife and kids after this? It's a living nightmare! For the love of Jupiter I hope someone stops that maniac."
 
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So this dude saw someone about to spark up a J and his first reaction is to knock it out of his hand?!

Ayo fuck this foo! I hope he goes back to Hell and burns!
 
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Well I've never trashed a business.

Just imagining a hypothetical news report from the time...

"Out of nowhere this angry hippie and his gang ransacked our place of work. The guy was whipping us. Literally whipping us. He was kicking over tables and threw us out on the street. How am I going to support my wife and kids after this? It's a living nightmare! For the love of Jupiter I hope someone stops that maniac."
I don't believe it was ever said that Jesus ever struck anyone with his whip of cords, just that he wrecked the place and drove people out. What was going on in the temple was against the very purpose of it. Also, as Christ He arguably had authority over the temple as opposed to the average person, so being irate and wanting people out makes some sense.
 
I don't believe it was ever said that Jesus ever struck anyone with his whip of cords, just that he wrecked the place and drove people out. What was going on in the temple was against the very purpose of it. Also, as Christ He arguably had authority over the temple as opposed to the average person, so being irate and wanting people out makes some sense.

Doesn't seem very forgiving.
 
Doesn't seem very forgiving.
Not everything about Christ is gentle. People seem to forget that while G-d is a being of love, He doesn't always act in a happy manner. He can get upset and even angry. Anger isn't necessarily an evil quality if it comes out of righteousness and is for the good.
 
What do Christians generally think Hell is and what it looks like or where it even is?

I remember asking a friend who was Christian if Heaven and Hell are basically other dimensions and he thought that idea was silly.
As I understand it, heaven is not a place, per se, but a state of being reunited with and in the presence of God for eternity.

Hell is just the opposite. The blackest void, separate from God's light. Like being trapped in the trunk of a car for all of eternity, with only the sounds of you and countless other lost souls to keep you company.
 
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