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That 90's Show - Topher Grace, Laura Prepon, Ashton Kutcher, Mila Kunis, and Wilmer Valderrama Returning for Sequel Series

All the 90s bands who had a massive one hit wonder and would have jumped at the chance, and they get someone to perform the song in the trailer that isn't recognizable and doesn't even sound like the 90s. Other than "Cheryl Crow isn't a crow" type jokes, this isn't going to seem anything like the 90s or even be appreciable in a nostalgic sense, is it?
 

Faust

Perpetually Tired
that 70s show GIF by IFC
 


The new cast seem like horrible Disney/Nickelodeon rejects and I'm getting 2020's vibes not 90's vibes
thumbs down GIF

Not only is the humor terrible, that group of friends is so "checklist diverse" that it lacks any chemistry.

Another dud for Netflix, gg.
Getting captain planet vibes myself. Not a good thing. But yeah late 90s at best. And as with anything where you've lived it personally, a period piece is bound to have more inaccuracies in your eyes than if you didn't. Even as someone who wasn't alive in the 1970s I never thought the 70s Show was all that 70s.

However that one was funny and this... doesn't seem to be
 
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TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Here is a trailer for the original show as a comparison piece:


The difference is the cast had talent they could do serious & comedy and was watchable by teens and adults.
The new cast do look like they from some Disney/Nickelodeon teen show like someone mentioned and they brought their acting skill with them to boot.
I'd give it a chance but I have no hope for it.
 

Moneal

Member
I don't know if 90s nostalgia works as a sitcom. The creators of the Goldbergs tried and it was terrible. This looks so bad too.
 

Ownage

Member
Not only is the humor terrible, that group of friends is so "checklist diverse" that it lacks any chemistry.

Another dud for Netflix, gg.
That white girl is gonna turn out to be a lez with the black girl, and this shit is gonna morph into sexual discovery and inclusion drama aka "On a very special episode of Blossom..."
 
The difference is the cast had talent they could do serious & comedy and was watchable by teens and adults.
The new cast do look like they from some Disney/Nickelodeon teen show like someone mentioned and they brought their acting skill with them to boot.
I'd give it a chance but I have no hope for it.
I judged both trailers as they were without using this as a base of judgment. Both trailers were very similar in feeling from that point of view and I'd say maybe one joke hit the mark in the older trailer I posted. A big issue is that most of us here carry a ton of nostalgia for the show and all of the actors in the original. We also know that they went on to do great things in life in addition to their acting work, so we're unfairly comparing the past 15 years of their legacy to something that is literally brand new and barely getting it's footing.

I do agree that the one misstep I see is that from the trailer it feels less like 2000s Fox and more like 2000s Nickelodeon/Disney. At the same time, there were quite a few 2000s Nickelodeon and Disney shows that were actually really good for what they were, so we will see how this goes.

I want to give the show a fair chance and view it through a fair lens.
 

BadBurger

Many “Whelps”! Handle It!


It's pretty much the same show with new people, at least it looks that way to me. Same vibe and humor.

I guess the cast doesn't have any noticeable standouts, but I'll give them a chance. I'm fearing this one will go down the same path as That 80's Show, because they failed to cast actors who are immediately arresting.

I think their biggest issue is the direction. It just doesn't look like something from the 90's. Or even the 2000's. It looks off.
 

Hugare

Member
Are the kids supposed to the same age the original cast was?
They look a bit younger
They look a lot younger

I have watched what, 2 episodes of the original series? So no nostalgia here. And yet, I think the old one is so much better.

They had so much charisma. As others have already said, those kids look so ... Disney/Nickelodeon

Seems like kids today cant act like kids from the 90s
 

JonSnowball

Member
They look a lot younger

I have watched what, 2 episodes of the original series? So no nostalgia here. And yet, I think the old one is so much better.

They had so much charisma. As others have already said, those kids look so ... Disney/Nickelodeon

Seems like kids today cant act like kids from the 90s
I watched the original That 70s Show in its entirety. That felt like a bunch of teenagers hanging out character wise, the trailer for this new show looks like they took the kids from the glee club/who sit alone in the library and got them to act like they're teenagers. Netflix is so pathetic they can't even put together a sitcom. This is the next bust after their "Blockbuster" show.
 

Rockondevil

Member
I was mildly interested until this trailer. I then went searching and realised that the OG cast is only in 1 episode.
I might watch that episode and that’s it.

And not a single thing felt like the 90’s I experienced.
 

Trilobit

Member
If this gets a good word of mouth I might watch one episode, otherwise it doesn't yet spark any joy or feel like the 90s.
 

daffyduck

Member
Getting captain planet vibes myself. Not a good thing. But yeah late 90s at best. And as with anything where you've lived it personally, a period piece is bound to have more inaccuracies in your eyes than if you didn't. Even as someone who wasn't alive in the 1970s I never thought the 70s Show was all that 70s.

However that one was funny and this... doesn't seem to be
Meh. Alive for part of it, not long enough to remember much, but it still seemed 70s enough to me.

I don't know if 90s nostalgia works as a sitcom. The creators of the Goldbergs tried and it was terrible. This looks so bad too.
To be fair, The Goldbergs was created as and is an 80s period piece/nostalgia. The current episodes are set in the 90s only because the show has lasted so long.

To your point, tv show period pieces have historically been set about two decades into the past, but only now are 90s set shows arriving.
 

Moneal

Member
Meh. Alive for part of it, not long enough to remember much, but it still seemed 70s enough to me.


To be fair, The Goldbergs was created as and is an 80s period piece/nostalgia. The current episodes are set in the 90s only because the show has lasted so long.

To your point, tv show period pieces have historically been set about two decades into the past, but only now are 90s set shows arriving.
I was talking about the failed spin off attempt Schooled. I haven't watched the Goldberg since season 3 or 4.
 

KrakenIPA

Member
That white girl is gonna turn out to be a lez with the black girl, and this shit is gonna morph into sexual discovery and inclusion drama aka "On a very special episode of Blossom..."

Wow that read like a stinger for a fake show from 'American Dad'. I'm gonna skip this bs even though I loved That 70's Show. (Laura Prepon was a fox, she had that sexy but crazy vibe! Redheads haha!)
 

JonSnowball

Member
I've got it! It finally clicked in my mind! The kids in That 90's Show are the exact kind of kids that'd get the shit beaten out of them in That 70's Show! Literally. They'd poop their pants from such a horrific heavy handed relentlessness beating. It's all fiction but even fiction sucks now. I say we bring back enjoyable media, you know - legacy style. I borrow Robocop on VHS from you, you in turn borrow a black label issue of Penthouse magazine off of me. It'll be great.
 

Denton

Member
The trailer is not great, I only smiled during scene with OG cast, but that Leia actress could be good if given the chance..
I will watch it (if only for Red and Kitty) with an open mind.
 

NecrosaroIII

Ultimate DQ Fan
I hope in season 2, the fat fudge packer fan buys a ps1 and FFVII and becomes obsessed with rumors he found on gamefaqs
 
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xrnzaaas

Member
New cast looks shit, exactly what you'd expect from Netflix's focus on diversity above all else. I also fully expect the humor to be horrible and full of references towards modern (leftist) society.
 

Aesius

Member
New cast looks shit, exactly what you'd expect from Netflix's focus on diversity above all else. I also fully expect the humor to be horrible and full of references towards modern (leftist) society.
Wouldn't be surprised if they somehow shoehorn a reference to Trump in.
 

BadBurger

Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
I got the first episode in. As far as writing goes it is literally like an episode of That 70's Show set in the 90's. They really picked up where they left off.

It just doesn't feel like the same magic. People who were unfamiliar with the 70's watched the original show because it kind of echoed modern humor through an older lens. Despite the writing feeling the same, it just doesn't feel like this is the kind of lightning they can make strike twice. We'll see. I liked the first episode enough to stick it out for another.
 

Dural

Member
Like real life

Like a small town in Wisconsin in the 90s.

Watched the first two episodes with my wife, it's garbage. I'd been rewatching the original the last couple weeks and its laughable comparing the two. All the kids they chose are horrible at acting, everything is so damn forced, not natural at all. The Asian kid is like the new Fes but fucking annoying. I love how they use modern language with how they talk too. Nothing is 90s about it.
Maybe some people will like watching for how cringe everything is with it, but I'm done.
 
The only traditional comedy I watched now is Mom which is funny af with Alison Janney and Anna Farris . Watched 15 minutes of this and not a single joke land. Am now sad at the state of things.
 
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Dural

Member
An openly gay kid in the 90s is mostly fiction.

Yep.

I was the same age as the characters on the show would be in 1995 and all the guys I knew would call each other fags, it was a constant insult you throw at your friends. I'm not expecting the show to use that term, but the amount of times they used bro in the two episodes I watched was ridiculous. Are the writers in their early 20s or what?
 

BadBurger

Many “Whelps”! Handle It!


Holy shit how have I never seen that one? Hilarious. The Onion used to be so good.

Anyways, I got in a few more episodes, and my conclusion is that the show is uneven. This may delight some: a few episodes so far are mostly focused on Red and Kitty with the teenagers sprinkled throughout. They also introduced a new neighbor who is basically a viewer surrogate who may find themselves in their late 30's / early 40's and still spinning their wheels in life (she's a 40-ish woman with no kids, implied terrible job, and is dating Fez despite it being an awful idea). Because of this the kids never really get much of a chance to shine, to grow their characters. The black girl in particular seems to only be around as cheerful eye candy - they just never let her do or say much aside from the first episode. The character Ozzie, the asian guy, is annoying and unfunny. He's like Jackie from the first season of the original turned up to 12/10.

All that said, it is pretty much the same style as the original show. The glaring differences are the focus on Red and Kitty, and that these young actors don't have the same chemistry. Wilmer Valderrama has a surprisingly large part as Fez across multiple episodes (the rest of the old cast only showed up once or twice for what were essentially cameos). So those yearning for more of the old cast will at least get a ton of Fez, but just be warned they go really, really hard on the eccentricities of Fez. Far beyond anything I remember from the original show.

It's like a 5.5/10 so far I guess? Despite all of the problems I did find myself laughing at times. And Foreman's daughter, the presumably lead character, is really likable and I find myself cheering for her the same way I cheered on her dorky dad back in the day.

An openly gay kid in the 90s is mostly fiction.

The late 90's, at least in media, is when homosexuals and lesbians began being accepted as part of pop culture, which accelerated into them becoming finally normalized by the mid 2000's. Prior to the late 90's they were typically portrayed as sinister or as jokes. By 2000 housewives across America were watching Will & Grace and even NPH, one of the original dude bros, was out of the closet by the mid 2000's.
 
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The neighbor woman is named Sherry and is the mother of Gwen and Nate. In her first appearance she thanks Red for yelling at her kids...

Gwen acts as a cooler sibling-like figure to Leia like Hyde did with Eric in That 70's Show. I thought Ozzie was hilarious in the way a pampered cartoon cat is. Much less irritating than Jackie always was. However, the teenage cast screams 2000's Nickelodeon and sound effects have not been updated to 90's standards. Also, the cameos of Michael and Jacky felt very forced unlike Fez, Leo, and Bob. It was very lame to have so many of these cameos in a vacuum.

My favorite part has been the banter between Eric and Red as it was in the original That 70's Show. This definitely hits home harder than the last season of That 70's Show outside of the wonderful series finale. For better or worse this continues where That 70's Show left off while not distinguishing itself with the emulation of the 90's. Overall, I like it enough to cheer should a second season be approved by Netflix.
 
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