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The Ashes Thread (Cricket) -- The Great Rivalry

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I can't fucking believe it -- we (Aussies) lost to Bang-your-fucking-desh in the one-dayer! :(

I'm convinced though it's all for show, and Ponting and the boys are playing up, just giving the Poms some self belief just before the series -- then they'll crush 'em 5-zip when it matters (or 2-0, or 3-0 pending on the crap English weather). ;)
 
It's bad enough when England make you look like Bangladesh in the Twenty20, but when Bangladesh make you look like Bangladesh...

Hope you've got giftwrap for those ashes. :)
 
I'd like to inform our Aussie friends that the British media is in no way gloating over this result. However, the derision from Sky Sports is classic Murdock press and the guy doing sportsday on BBC News 24 couldn't stop laughing.... of course the BBC is an impartial and non-partisan news organisation.
 
This ashes series is gona be great, for once in my lifetime, England will actually have a chance of winning.

Go Aussies!!

Martyn and Clarke took way too long to get going, ok they were in trouble early, but they still should have made runs quicker.

Aussies should have kept symonds in, they would have won with him belting the crap out of it the last few overs.

Oh well, night time.
 
I couldn't watch after the aussies got within 30 runs of winning, surely yet another case of England snatching defeat from the jaws of victory :(

SECOND TEST - MATCH SUMMARY (Day 4) :
England 407 & 182 bt Australia 308 & 279 by two runs

Unfookingbelievable :D

Test series level at 1-1, so much for the whitewash, eh those arrogant aussies. :)
 
England took the last wicket in the Second Test Match against Australia to win by just two runs and level the series one-all. More from the BBC:

BBC Sport said:
Australia were on the brink of victory when last man Michael Kasprowicz gloved Steve Harmison behind for 20. Kasprowicz and Brett Lee, who hit 43 not out, put on 59 for the last wicket, chasing a ground record target of 282. Shane Warne had begun the day with a defiant 42 before he trod on his wicket playing back to Andrew Flintoff. Man of the match Flintoff, who did the damage on the third day with an innings of 73 in England's second innings 182 then taking three wickets, finished with 4-79.

Full story here.

I watched the last part of this match and I've got to say it was a real nailbiter...


EDIT: Argh, just noticed there's already an Ashes thread... sorry! Perhaps a mod could delete/lock/merge this post?
 
Wow, best match I've ever seen. The last three batsman put the others to shame, Flintoff and Warne were outstanding, Brett Lee showed some balls at the end, and the series is levelled. Shame that McGrath needs to get injured to bring Australia down to anyone else's level though.
 
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BITCH!!
 
Are you English Shinobi?

England have just won the 4th test to take a 2-1 lead into the final test match. Good stuff Cricket, even for the impartial spectator.
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Yeah I was born in London England, moved to Toronto Canada in '89. Haven't seen the cricket matches and I can't say I'm a closer follower of the sport, but I've been trying to keep up to date on this test series. From all accounts England beating the Aussies would be a major upset, so I'm rooting for them.
 
Heh, cricket doesn't exactly strike me as being a great radio sport. :lol But thanks for mentioning it...I'll probably tune in next time.
 
It's quite funny actually.. over here in Australia there are many discussions, both professionally critical and usual pub banter at work about the Aussie team needing to have a huge overhaul in their team selections. The sad truth is, the England side have won both their tests on very slim margins, both of them being absolute nail-biters for both supporters. Credit is due to the English cricket side, their bowlers are supreme and Flintoff is a cricket God.

I want to see Hayden back in form for the 5th test on a pitch that favours his old batting style - slogging it all over the park. Other than that, Australia need fresh blood otherwise they'll just turn into the next England side of 10 years ago.. relying on 40 year old vets to get them over the line. WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER GRAHAM GOOCH!
 
tracky_dacks said:
I can't fucking believe it -- we (Aussies) lost to Bang-your-fucking-desh in the one-dayer! :(

I'm convinced though it's all for show, and Ponting and the boys are playing up, just giving the Poms some self belief just before the series -- then they'll crush 'em 5-zip when it matters (or 2-0, or 3-0 pending on the crap English weather). ;)

i love hindsight :lol
 
This thread wouldnt be here if England were getting w00ped as usual, but what the hell, im all for jumping on moving wagons.


GO ENGLAND.




By the margins England are winning though they'd better hope Mcgrath isnt fit for the next test, he could easily prove all Australia need to retain the ashes.
 
Shinobi said:
Heh, cricket doesn't exactly strike me as being a great radio sport. :lol But thanks for mentioning it...I'll probably tune in next time.
cricket is a great radio sport when the bbc commentators are covering it! this series apart, they are usually more entertaining than the game itself
 
What he said, cricket's the best radio sport. Just have it on in the background while you're doing something else, there's nothing better.

I don't think England can win with McGrath back (he's been injured in the two tests they won). I saw some stats, and I can't remember the exact numbers, but it was something like

Average score against Australia with McGrath playing: 270
Average score against Australia without McGrath playing: 390
 
:lol




speedpop said:
I want to see Hayden back in form for the 5th test on a pitch that favours his old batting style - slogging it all over the park. Other than that, Australia need fresh blood otherwise they'll just turn into the next England side of 10 years ago.. relying on 40 year old vets to get them over the line. WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER GRAHAM GOOCH!

:lol Graham Gooch is one of the few names I remember from when I was living in England.




anthony said:
i love hindsight :lol

:lol So cruel...




Stevie Gerrard said:
cricket is a great radio sport when the bbc commentators are covering it! this series apart, they are usually more entertaining than the game itself

Interesting...okay, I'll defintely throw 'em on.
 
Man, it was such an awesome night in Dhaka when we beat the aussies, I remember I was at a dinner (I left when Bangladesh were 70/3 chasing) and kept checking the score on my mobile. When we were 163/3 at the 34th over I ran back home to watch the rest of the game. One the best nights of my life.
 
iapetus said:
It's bad enough when England make you look like Bangladesh in the Twenty20, but when Bangladesh make you look like Bangladesh...

Hope you've got giftwrap for those ashes. :)
:lol :lol :lol
 
I think it's OK Ghost, you can stop chewing them now, it's pretty much over.
I don't follow cricket at all but watched this because saw we might have a chance earlier in the innings.

Pieterson was lucky that Warne dropped that sitter earlier, damnit.
 
As much as it hurts to say it, well deserved victory to the poms.

They were the better team and handled the pressure well. It think it would have gone down differently in Australia though.
 
Looks like the poms have it. A good and bad thing, good because it breaks Australia's dominance in the Ashes, bad because the English are not going to shut up about it, they never do. The 2003 rugby world cup victory I can deal with, but they still bring the 1966 world cup up for fuck sake.
 
xabre said:
but they still bring the 1966 world cup up for fuck sake.

Well you know, it's not really the same situation. It's every 4 years, you're not even guaranteed to be in the World Cup if you don't qualify, you sure as hell don't go directly to the final, as a country we're fucking obsessed with football, if you win it it means you're the best team of the hundred plus who enter, and it was in England the only time we ever hosted it AND against our most hated rivals, Germany.

The Ashes on the other hand is every 2 years, England are guaranteed to be there, it can only ever be won by one of these 2 teams, I'm not sure if cricket or rugby is the England's second national sport but regardless it's a mile behind football, if you win it only guarantees you're better than one team, and we've hosted it god knows how many times against our biggest cricket rivals no doubt, but as a country I don't think there's too much ill feeling with Australia.

Anyway, I don't want to diminish this achievement for England, it has to be bloody good to get me watching, but I promise you in 40 years time you won't be able to ask the average person what year this test match happened and get the correct answer.
 
Mama Smurf said:
Well you know, it's not really the same situation. It's every 4 years, you're not even guaranteed to be in the World Cup if you don't qualify, you sure as hell don't go directly to the final, as a country we're fucking obsessed with football, if you win it it means you're the best team of the hundred plus who enter, and it was in England the only time we ever hosted it AND against our most hated rivals, Germany.

Fair point.

In regards to world cup qualifying you're right there, Australia hasn't qualified since 1974 IIRC and its no mean feat for the top tier teams either.
 
Yeah the Poms put one over us.... I think the Aussie boys were way too confident going into the Test Series and definitely lacked match fitness...

Oh well I'm looking on the brightside and what I'm seeing is that Cricket may be getting more even again and Australia wont kill every team they play against... I hate to say it, but its good for the game..
 
xabre said:
Looks like the poms have it. A good and bad thing, good because it breaks Australia's dominance in the Ashes, bad because the English are not going to shut up about it, they never do. The 2003 rugby world cup victory I can deal with, but they still bring the 1966 world cup up for fuck sake.

:lol Sounds like the way Leafs fans talk about the '67 Stanley Cup. Hey, when you haven't won shit in 40 years, you go back to whatever you can for comfort. Though as Smurf stated, the World Cup victory was a lot more difficult.

Anyway, good for England...after last week's debacle in Belfast it's the least they could've done. :lol
 
Ponting is a fuckstick.

Brett Lee can't bowl for shit but looks like Dennis Lillee compared to Shaun Tait.

Warne = dickhead but absolute champion. Best bowler I've ever seen.
 
snaildog said:
No GAF-love for the greatest sport in the world? Oh well.

As an American, I've gotta admit I've always been curious as to what Cricket actually looks like when played. All most of us know about it is that it was a precursor to baseball and has a bat and ball but that's about it. I've tried to read some things online about the rules and such, but they often use so much terminology that it's hard to get a solid picture in my head of what goes on.

Could someone try to summarize the game for us Yanks or link to a good site that goes light on the terms? A little backstory would be nice too. I think I read somewhere that Australia does really well in this here Ashes tournament or something when back in the day the British used to dominate. Or am I remembering it wrong?

So you have guys that pitch, and you try to bat the ball and then run back and forth between the 2 bases scoring points before they can take the ball and smash those thingies off the wickets or whatever? Also the guy can keep scoring runs over and over until they can get him out? Games last days and have dinner breaks?

Jesus I must sound like a total retard, but we Americans don't have any access to Cricket footage on ESPN or anything like that :|.
 
Woah, We (Aussies) lost? We lost in Cricket? W?T?F?

Oh well, we had an awesome run. When did we last choke? 1987 or something?
 
Shinobi said:
Anyway, good for England...after last week's debacle in Belfast it's the least they could've done. :lol

I'm surprised cricket never really took off in Canada. It's generally quite popular throughout countries with current or past ties to the commonwealth.
 
Mr. Bigglesworth said:
Warne = dickhead but absolute champion. Best bowler I've ever seen.

No doubt about it, he is the greatest bowler ever in my mind. Don't care much for what he does off the field, but on it, he's a God. The last 4 Tests, there was no doubt about it, England were the better team, but he'd always (almost single handlely) give us a glimmer of hope of winning whether it be bowling (2 10fer's in the series me thinks) or batting (I was crushed to see him go oh-so-close to getting his first ton). Freddy Flintoff was a deserved player of the series, but Warnie -- despite being on the losing side -- would have been a real close second.

Well done to the Poms though, deserved winners. Enjoy it while it lasts because you'll be handing it back over when you defend it in 2 years time... on our turf. :)
 
xabre said:
I'm surprised cricket never really took off in Canada. It's generally quite popular throughout countries with current or past ties to the commonwealth.

Perhaps baseball's popularity here excluded the need to play cricket. But that's just a guess.
 
Mr. Bigglesworth said:
Ponting is a fuckstick.

Brett Lee can't bowl for shit but looks like Dennis Lillee compared to Shaun Tait.

Warne = dickhead but absolute champion. Best bowler I've ever seen.
Agreed :lol
 
Shane Warne is the MAN. One day he's sexing up the ladies two or three at a time, the next he's tearing through the English batting lineup.

Seriously, I don't think he's as much of a dick as everyone says. He was an arsehole to his wife, but he does runs a charity for children, he did all that promotional stuff for the tsunami disaster, and his attitude on the field is superb.
 
snaildog said:
Shane Warne is the MAN. One day he's sexing up the ladies two or three at a time, the next he's tearing through the English batting lineup.

:lol

In any case, it's a sad day for Australian cricket. I wonder who's first on the chopping block? Besides Gillespie of course, he's long gone...
 
You know what I love the fact that Bret Lee is in the middle(ish) phase of his career while the Australian Team spirals downwards. Awesome :lol
 
The correct result I think, we played like shit for most of the series, the only consistently good player being Warne (who was fucking amazing). Seriously, if Warne hadn't already proved he was one of the greatest players ever (and in my mind the best bowler ever), he certainly did in this series. Anyway, although it was the right result (England totally outclassed us in almost every facet of the game), I can't believe it came at the hands of Pieterson, that fucking cunt. Only a complete git would have such a haircut. He's an a-grade bogan, and not the loveable type of bogan you find on the Australian team, but the type that inspires an irrational desire to do grievious harm to their person with a pickaxe. I'd have liked to see Flintoff finish us off with the bat, but instead we get Pieterson, king of the fucksticks. If only South Africa had held onto him. Oh well.

Anyway, here's hoping that we replace our out of form has-beens with promising young players...I don't want to see a ten year slump in the Australian side ffs.
 
Optimistic said:
Anyway, although it was the right result (England totally outclassed us in almost every facet of the game), I can't believe it came at the hands of Pieterson, that fucking cunt. Only a complete git would have such a haircut. He's an a-grade bogan, and not the loveable type of bogan you find on the Australian team, but the type that inspires an irrational desire to do grievious harm to their person with a pickaxe. I'd have liked to see Flintoff finish us off with the bat, but instead we get Pieterson, king of the fucksticks.

:lol :lol :lol

So true. Man, after Pieterson scored his century (and virtually secured the Ashes) I just wanted to run on to the ground, grab one of the stumps and stab his face. Like you said, had it been Flintoff I would gone on to my knees and bowed at his feet -- it truly would have been fitting finale to what was the best Ashes series I've ever seen. But yeah... fucking Pieterson.
 
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