...hardly, because they are not cited that often.
A real problem in this vain though is that review articles tend to get massively overcited, whereas original research is often largely ignored.
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...hardly, because they are not cited that often.
A real problem in this vain though is that review articles tend to get massively overcited, whereas original research is often largely ignored.
Trigonometrize.
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Hell yeah, almost broke into the top 800.
UnemployedVillain
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My bad. I thought I followed the quote chain back far enough
I don't know what to say, other than that I didn't make it up and this is simply how it is. Acquiring accolades has long been an American thing and is now something that Chinese universities are heavily pushing towards. Most of Europe has not really participated in this, because they have less of a history of competitive funding acquisition or job insecurity. Of course not all of these awards are something you have to actively work towards.
I'll say in favor of CWUR that they have a rather even split, 10 US awards versus 7 European awards. Most of them Scandinavian though. In any case a country like Germany doing poorly in this list could simply be an absence of German awards.
there's nothing weird about that. in UK-only rankings they trade blows every year and it often depends on the methodology of the ranking.
High five, dude. What are you studying?
You think a lot of people from western europe actually travel to the US to get their medical degree? Lol.
Temporary internships, fellowships and research positions in the US, maybe. That's how I got my ass planted at Harvard for a bit.
But beyond that? I strongly doubt it, unless you think that a sub single digit percentage of students is 'so many'.
Memento_Mori15
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Graduated from a top 50 college, nice. Maybe one day I'll go back to do a graduate program...
1.21Gigawatts
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Given that the US is basically the main science hub of the world the ranking makes sense for the methodology they used. Although there is a certain inherent bias they should have addressed.
Thatswhy I strongly disagree that their methodology determines the "best" universities. Especially the criteria they used for Quality of Education and Quality of Faculty is, in my opinion, not suited to determine these things.
Thatswhy I strongly disagree that their methodology determines the "best" universities. Especially the criteria they used for Quality of Education and Quality of Faculty is, in my opinion, not suited to determine these things.
lol I'd say that our small size is skewing that result.
Reverend Funk
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Lmao didn't make top 1000
TestMonkey
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World ranking 376. Not bad for a state school.
Tony Redgrave
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296 here, I've always liked my Uni.
uncleniccius
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These lists are nothing more than an indicator due to the parameters being problematic. Only 2/8 are adjusted for size which is hugely important.
Still helpful though. It should be noted that there are multiple lists all with slightly different results. For the most part you can work out if a college/university is good without using lists like this though. Reputation usually says a lot.
Edit: Mine is #187. I'm doing a semester abroad at William and Mary though, that feels very low for them.
Still helpful though. It should be noted that there are multiple lists all with slightly different results. For the most part you can work out if a college/university is good without using lists like this though. Reputation usually says a lot.
Edit: Mine is #187. I'm doing a semester abroad at William and Mary though, that feels very low for them.
CyberPunked
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These numbers have virtually no meaning like this. They should be percentages of total universities in each country. For example, the US has 4726 Universities/Colleges, where's the UK has 130.
PdotMichael
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The difference is that research in Germany or other European countries aren't focused primarily on the universities in the way it does in the USA. Germany for example has the Fraunhofer Society for applied science and engineering and Max Planck Society for basic science.
spiderman123
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UFT IS 30TH ? BULLSHIT LIST
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Actually, getting an MD from outside of the USA puts you at a huge disadvantage for getting a residency (and subsequently fellowship) in the USA. So in that sense, yes all USA MDs are pretty much superior to any international ones. It's less about "pedigree" and more about residencies preferring students from the USA schools much more heavily.
That doesn't mean there aren't many international grads that are US doctors, just relatively few. And it has gotten a lot harder than it was in the past few decades to be an international medical school graduate and train in the USA.
Graduated from #25 (UW Madison). I'm pretty sure that means I'm 25 times smarter than everyone else.
Being back in school now, I can't believe how much I wasted that experience. Wish I could go back and, among many other things, major in something that's actually useful and that I could be proud of. On the one hand I have a degree from UW Madison. On the other hand........yeah. =/ Small chance I'll be going back there to finish a degree in electrical engineering.
Being back in school now, I can't believe how much I wasted that experience. Wish I could go back and, among many other things, major in something that's actually useful and that I could be proud of. On the one hand I have a degree from UW Madison. On the other hand........yeah. =/ Small chance I'll be going back there to finish a degree in electrical engineering.
White_sox
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Why would that matter?
Maybe it's because they can't get into Harvard because their CV isn't up to par.
Just a thought.
hockeypuck
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That is more dependent on specialty. There are going to be little to no international medical graduates (IMG) in dermatology residencies. This is the original quote I took issue with:
In the context of this thread, regarding universities, that statement is bogus. Hardly anyone outside the U.S. should be considering to apply for a U.S. medical school, and the main reason is cost. It makes sense that only 1,300 foreign applicants applied in 2010, with 171 matriculating (for 20,000 spots). That's a 13% acceptance rate. IMG performance in the 2015 Match for U.S. residencies, on the other hand, was 50% successful match for first-year positions by non-U.S. citizen IMG applicants. That doesn't include matches for mid-residency openings.
Even if your chances of getting a residency spot is lower as an IMG than as a U.S. med school grad, it's still higher than getting an acceptance into a U.S. med school.
The vast, vast majority of dutch med students are honestly never even considering to get their MD in the US unless they want to move there permanently for some reason. The thought doesn't even enter the equation.
Like I said, just opportunistic internships or research periods. But even those are really not all that special.
Over here people generally don't give a damn what university you got your medical degree from because all dutch universities are up to a high standard anyway. It's all about how you did, the stuff you did on the side, the experience you have and the local connections you have made.
And in that case, i'd say people who went to study in the US for six years are actually somewhat at a disadvantage when they want to enter certain specialties back in the Netherlands, despite their degree from a prestigious institution.
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QUOTEE=Timbuktu;212640174]It always seems that Americans have a lot more emotional attachment to their universities than over here in the UK.[/QUOTE]
For some cities, their entire economy is based on the success of their local university. Throw on top of that college sports and that right there explains 90% of the emotions US citizens have for their university of choice.
Also, anytime we're "#1" at something, we like to make sure everyone knows.
For some cities, their entire economy is based on the success of their local university. Throw on top of that college sports and that right there explains 90% of the emotions US citizens have for their university of choice.
Also, anytime we're "#1" at something, we like to make sure everyone knows.
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91st!
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It's the MIT of the UK, STEM and business. To my knowledge they don't do any humanities. It's also seen as a sausage fest filled with socially awkward nerds
Arthr2ShdsJcksn
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UW-Madison #25 Represent!!!!
Lol. I had a friend of mine go there on Erasmus, and he fits the description.
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