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The Black Culture Thread |OT19| - You Still Can't Say Tanned

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Crocodile

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Is that "Black Samus" thread going as shitty as all race threads on Gaming Side go? I'd say the only reasonable answer is "Yes if they do a complete reboot" no?

Regarding the bolded, It's definitely a perspective that needs to be considered. On one hand, there are definitely women (PoC or not) with a body (or ass to be more specific) like Twintelle's. It's not some blatantly unrealistic thing. I do notice that some people (understandably considering how female characters are usually treated) have an aversion to any sort of "assets" for a female character, as if it couldn't exist. But nevertheless, I can't really fault a non-white woman looking at the design and potentially having issues with it.

I've been caping for her a bit because it's a noteworthy PoC character for Nintendo's new game for their new console, which is genuinely neat to see, and obvious "assets" aside, her design looks great.

I highly doubt that Nintendo is unaware of how the Internet reacts to a girl with an ass, but no clue on whether it's unconscious bias or not to give it to the PoC character. That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. Ultimately however, my opinion is that she's basically a good example of how to make an attractive character without it having some embarrassing aspect to it. Where said design is tasteful, rather than it being a weird hill to die on. Not to mention there's 3 other characters that look different from one another, so it feels like that makes it more okay to have that one character that's clearly supposed to be the "sexy" one. If it was some obvious trend or if she was the only female character, it'd be a lot easier to criticize on my part. I just feel like we're just kind of currently intertwined in how the Internet reacts to characters like her, but if we just briefly ignore that for a moment, I felt like it's safe to say what Nintendo created is perfectly fine. I felt like the refreshing addition of her having some actual muscle, as well as the whole class/elegance thing, also helps to not make her come off as a caricature of sorts.

I would not be surprised if the designer was looking up pictures of Beyonce, so I'm going to say it's "unconscious", but it's still "questionable", especially since I believe this may be the first Black woman playable character that Nintendo has created.

These are pretty good, naunced responses. Thanks.

Turning in early before the fuckery starts

She got a lightning bird

I mean she's not the only character with an Electric-type default ARMS but LOL nonetheless
 

LionPride

Banned
My teacher gave my an N in conduct meaning I am not an honor student this quarter and will not graduate as one. I actually hate her.
 

LotusHD

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Is that "Black Samus" thread going as shitty as all race threads on Gaming Side go? I'd say the only reasonable answer is "Yes if they do a complete reboot" no?

I'll generally never say to hypotheticals like that, because of course I'm down for more PoC characters. That being said, rubbed me the wrong way he posed the question, with him saying:

Say a future Metroid game is marketed as a reboot, and at the end, Seamus Samus removes her helmet revealing she's a black woman.

I don't like the thought of my skin color being used to surprise people out of nowhere. If one is to make a Black Samus, then don't drag your feet, put that shit at the forefront instead of making it out to be some surprise twist.
 

Crocodile

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I'll generally never say to hypotheticals like that, because of course I'm down for more PoC characters. That being said, rubbed me the wrong way he posed the question, with him saying:

I don't like the thought of my skin color being used to surprise people out of nowhere. If one is to make a Black Samus, then don't drag your feet, put that shit at the forefront instead of making it out to be some surprise twist.

I would also argue that since its 2017, there is no real value in "shock" race/gender/sexuality reveals. It shouldn't be a shock that the main character can be or is a woman and/or PoC and/or gay.
 

Kreed

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Is that "Black Samus" thread going as shitty as all race threads on Gaming Side go? I'd say the only reasonable answer is "Yes if they do a complete reboot" no?

The OP is asking how people would feel if they got to the end of a Metroid game and Samus turned out to be Black after she took her mask off, but most of the responses are people giving their opinions on if they would want a Black Samus or not.
 

Slayven

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Why is it called pandering when it isn't anything but white and straight?

And if it is pandering why is it a negative?

The media isn't going to leave white and straight out
 

LotusHD

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Why is it called pandering when it isn't anything but white and straight?

And if it is pandering why is it a negative?

The media isn't going to leave white and straight out

I never really got this either. We need to get more PoC characters in the first place, then we can talk about whether it is actually "forced" or "pandering". But let's be real, barring some colossal misunderstanding of the group they're trying to represent, it is more than welcome.
 

Sch1sm

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Why is it called pandering when it isn't anything but white and straight?

And if it is pandering why is it a negative?

The media isn't going to leave white and straight out

They're pretty much insinuating that the only reason more representative characters are being created is because of pressure from PoC, and not because the writers are leaning toward that organically.

That's the vibe I get, anyway.
 

Crocodile

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So I'm getting the sense the Black Samus thread is going just as I expected LOL (sigh)

Why is it called pandering when it isn't anything but white and straight?

And if it is pandering why is it a negative?

The media isn't going to leave white and straight out

"Pandering" is a word I've come to hate. ALL it means nowadays is "I don't like/care about thing so its bad!". The term has basically lost all meaning (similar to "SJW").

They're pretty much insinuating that the only reason more representative characters are being created is because of pressure from PoC, and not because the writers are leaning toward that organically.

That's the vibe I get, anyway.

Even then, why is the bolded bad? That's how anything in life happens - you do it yourself or you tell the people who can do that you want it to happen. That's how we interact with our politicians no? Aren't businesses supposed to react to demand (hey free market!). I wasn't aware there was an arm of the Black Panthers running around pointing guns to the heads of game developers like some out there feel is true.
 

Shy

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Afternoon BCT
Morning y'all
Mornin' everyone.
Morning/Afternoon all..
Evening all.
Didn't get far at all in American Gods book
Didn't think there would be this many penises seeing the show
How are you enjoying the show so far ?
I didn't get the job I was hoping for, so I'm going to for ice cream!
Sorry to here that fam.

Stay strong, and don't let this setback get you down.

Under his eye.
 

RedSwirl

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Bruhs. My parents just moved into this new neighborhood: gated community, pretty far out there, probably mostly white folks. They're having a "get to know everybody" kind of thing this weekend.

Just letting y'all know in case you don't hear back from me on Monday.
 

D i Z

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Hi D I Z.

Whatup, Shy! How you today?

Bruhs. My parents just moved into this new neighborhood: gated community, pretty far out there, probably mostly white folks. They're having a "get to know everybody" kind of thing this weekend.

Just letting y'all know in case you don't hear back from me on Monday.

Just remember to charge your phone in case you need to flashy thingy your way outta there.
 

Shy

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Bruhs. My parents just moved into this new neighborhood: gated community, pretty far out there, probably mostly white folks. They're having a "get to know everybody" kind of thing this weekend.

Just letting y'all know in case you don't hear back from me on Monday.
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Whatup, Shy! How you today?
Eh. You know breathing. But thanks for asking.

You ?
 

Beefy

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Bruhs. My parents just moved into this new neighborhood: gated community, pretty far out there, probably mostly white folks. They're having a "get to know everybody" kind of thing this weekend.

Just letting y'all know in case you don't hear back from me on Monday.

Get Out
 
Bruhs. My parents just moved into this new neighborhood: gated community, pretty far out there, probably mostly white folks. They're having a "get to know everybody" kind of thing this weekend.

Just letting y'all know in case you don't hear back from me on Monday.

You got a best friend that can pick you up if shit goes south?
 

Sch1sm

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Bruhs. My parents just moved into this new neighborhood: gated community, pretty far out there, probably mostly white folks. They're having a "get to know everybody" kind of thing this weekend.

Just letting y'all know in case you don't hear back from me on Monday.

Godspeed.
 
Bruhs. My parents just moved into this new neighborhood: gated community, pretty far out there, probably mostly white folks. They're having a "get to know everybody" kind of thing this weekend.

Just letting y'all know in case you don't hear back from me on Monday.
Check out the groundskeeper.
 
Bruhs. My parents just moved into this new neighborhood: gated community, pretty far out there, probably mostly white folks. They're having a "get to know everybody" kind of thing this weekend.

Just letting y'all know in case you don't hear back from me on Monday.

R.I.P. breh
 

LotusHD

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Bruhs. My parents just moved into this new neighborhood: gated community, pretty far out there, probably mostly white folks. They're having a "get to know everybody" kind of thing this weekend.

Just letting y'all know in case you don't hear back from me on Monday.

I hope to god you got a friend that works at the TSA
 
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