The Dark Knight Rises (Batman 3) - No Riddler

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I know this is a joke, but I think there's a kernel of truth here. I sincerely believe Batman won't survive this movie.

I honestly see only two options, death or jail. Nolan loves his foreshadowing, so the last time I watched the Dark Knight, the press conference scene where Dent tells the public that someday Batman will answer to them for his crimes made me spider sense tingle a bit.
 
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I just hope we get something definitive. Not one of those bullshit endings where Bruce is presumed to be dead but no one finds the body. "Batman may secretly be alive everyone, use your imagination"!

I honestly see only two options, death or jail. Nolan loves his foreshadowing, so the last time I watched the Dark Knight, the press conference scene where Dent tells the public that someday Batman will answer to them for his crimes made me spider sense tingle a bit.

C'mon man, Batman ain't going to no jail.
 
Batman is now a big money maker for the studio so they will be conservative about the franchise. Unless Nolan specifically asks for a Batman Beyond type film they won't do it. I'm assuming Nolan is going to be the godfather of the next Batman trilogy by creating the basic premise and then handing it off just like he is doing with Superman.
 
Fuck that. For the next Batman movie...they should wait ten years or so. Don't churn out shit movies. Reboot the series in a decade with new origin story.

I could see them doing a film that is just a one time thing. Like something based off of Dark Knight Returns where a much older actor plays Batman and returns to a crime ridden Gotham where everyone hates him. The years spent doing that film will be time needed to create the storyline for a proper reboot.

Batman can die, Bruce Wayne can not.

I thought it was the other way around. Bruce can obviously die but Batman is an idea. Joseph Gordon Levitt will take on the mantle.
 
Batman 4 is already being filmed. That's what Terence Malick and Christian Bale are up. They're clearly adapting Batman: The Return of Bruce Wayne for the big screen. TDKR ends with Darkseid killing Batman, which leads to Batman 4 in 2014 and the Justice League movie in 2015.
 
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2015. Believe.
 
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I just hope we get something definitive. Not one of those bullshit endings where Bruce is presumed to be dead but no one finds the body. "Batman may secretly be alive everyone, use your imagination"!



C'mon man, Batman ain't going to no jail.

You saw inception right? What do you reckon your chances of getting a conclusive ending are?
 
I just hope we get something definitive. Not one of those bullshit endings where Bruce is presumed to be dead but no one finds the body. "Batman may secretly be alive everyone, use your imagination"!

C'mon man, Batman ain't going to no jail.

Well, judging from the trailer I think he does get imprisoned somewhere at some point by Bane, just not at the end. And I'm willing to bet his identity gets revealed in this movie as a result. Nolan's movies have been building up from the first one the idea that Bruce Wayne is the mask and that Batman is who he really is. Rachel commented on it in BB. Then in TDK, Joker (at first) wanted him to take off the mask. Bruce himself wanted to put down the cowl, but realized he couldn't. He still recognized that Gotham needed a hero with a face though, making Dent the illegitimate hero.

And now in this movie, there's two other things. Nolan said that Bruce is "frozen in time" at the start of TDKR. He's still putting "Bruce" on the side. The trailer seems to hint there's going to be some class warfare stuff in the plot. What better time to reveal then that the spoiled, rich, "prince" of Gotham has actually been Batman, the knight for the little guy the whole time? That gives Nolan's version of the character the closure he's been seeking. He finally reconciles his role as Batman by letting Bruce's actions out into the light. Plus, Gotham finally gets a hero other than Dent to aspire to.

So if everybody finds out who he is, then there's only a couple outcomes:
  1. He definitively dies saving Gotham and becomes a matyr, an everlasting symbol. Donates his inheritance to rebuilding Gotham (because it's going to get fuuuuuuucked in this movie and because it ties into the whole rich vs. poor theme they're setting up with Catwoman).
  2. Nolan gets clever, Batman "dies," Bruce retires and flees. (Don't really see this happening.)
  3. Nolan gets clever, Batman "dies," but maybe he's still out there. (Don't really see this happening either.)

Whatever it is, it's not going to be the "Batman on roof looking at the Batsymbol" or the "he'll always be Batman" ending. We already got that in 89, BB, and TDK. This will be something different, otherwise there's no point to telling this story. It'd be redundant.
 
Batman looks up at the sky as he is lying next to Bane's dead body. Everything fades away and he is once again at the slopes of the mountain he needed to climb in order to reach Ra's Al Ghul. He goes up all the way to the top and his parents are waiting for him along with Katie Holmes. The Dark Knight Rises.
 
it's not going to be the "Batman on roof looking at the Batsymbol"

The sun is rising, Joseph Gordon-Levitt is having a cup of coffee watching Gotham from his window. On the radio in the background a newscaster is announcing the death of Batman. A bird lands on the window's frame... it's a robin. He smiles. Black screen.
 
Batmans crawling on all fours in a grim, rain-swept alleyway. He pushes to hoist himself up, but Banes boot sweeps down again crushing him. He breathes hot air; his lungs burning, fists clenching dirt and mud. Another kick, again and again. Blood trickles down his cheek as he pulls himself along limp and broke, Bane walks behind him swaggerly. Batman looks down the narrow street as his vision dims, he sees in the fog and night two shadows. The figures illuminate, Thomas and Martha Wayne stand on a autumn road, leaves dancing round their feet. "It's ok Bruce" Thomas tells him "you don't have to be afraid anymore"... Bane raises his foot one last time."Father" Bruce efforts to whisper, the strength escaping him. "what's that Mr Wayne? Do you have something to say?" Bane demands, halting the fatal blow.
 
Batmans crawling on all fours in a grim, rain-swept alleyway. He pushes to hoist himself up, but Banes boot sweeps down again crushing him. He breathes hot air; his lungs burning, fists clenching dirt and mud. Another kick, again and again. Blood trickles down his cheek as he pulls himself along limp and broke, Bane walks behind him swaggerly. Batman looks down the narrow street as his vision dims, he sees in the fog and night two shadows. The figures illuminate, Thomas and Martha Wayne stand on a autumn road, leaves dancing round their feet. "It's ok Bruce" Thomas tells him "you don't have to be afraid anymore"... Bane raises his foot one last time."Father" Bruce efforts to whisper, the strength escaping him. "what's that Mr Wayne? Do you have something to say?" Bane demands, halting the fatal blow.

Bruce Wayne and the deathly hallows part 2.

In 3D.
 
Alfred is standing at Bruce's grave, a lonely and broken old man trying not to cry. Suddenly he senses a shadow slowly creeping over him and looks around but no one is there. "Was it his mind playing tricks on him, could it really be Bruce", Alfred in his heart knew the answer. He smiles a little to himself and lays a blue flower down on the grave. He looks onto the horizon, the sun is rising.
 
Everyone is at Bruce's funeral. Everyone, including a man who doesn't seem to belong there.

Wearing a press badge and old-fashioned spectacles, this man, who is larger, more upright than those bred to live and cower in Gotham's shadow, seems to be searching in the distance for something.

In a split-second, he senses what he's searching for. Whether it was a sign, or nothing at all, he isn't sure. He stills his mind and listens again.

"Were you a friend of Bruce?" a woman in gaudy cats-eye glasses ask the man. A fellow journalist, the stranger knows her as Gossip Gerty of the Gotham Gazette.

"No ma'am. Just flew in to report the passing of the world's most obnoxious billionaire playboy philanthropist."

He pardons the friends and family that are shuffling about, sharing their memories of Bruce Wayne. However, the congregation is too noisy, and they're making it difficult for the large man from out of town to confirm his suspiscion about his old friend.

Another split-second, another heartbeat. The reporter was sure this time.

Bruce Wayne is alive, somewhere. Somewhere, in the depths of Gotham, beats the heart of justice, waiting for nightfall to hunt those who would use the dark to rule the innocents.

The spectacled reporter smiles, and walks away with another great story that he will never tell. He surrenders Gotham to its true protector.

ONLY TO COME BACK 2 WEEKS LATER WHEN LEXCORP BUYS WAYNE ENTERPRISES AND LUTHOR TRIES TO TAKE OVER GOTHAM'S UNDERWORLD

BECAUSE THAT GUY AT WAYNE'S FUNERAL WAS SUPERMAN

BRUCE WAYNE FAKED DEATH; IS BATMAN!! REPORTS LOIS LANE
 
Lets say that Bruce does die and they do have some kind of afterlife or supernatural scene going on except they could make it ambiguous, like you could interpret it as happening in Bruce's head, would you be mad? Would that not fit at all with what this franchise is about? For example would you be mad if the last scene of Batman was Bruce seeing his parents again?
 
I think it would be nice, but the story doesn't depend on it nearly as much as Spider-Man 2 needed the Uncle Ben scenes. And those were already a lot like the Jor-El scenes in Superman II
 
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