The Dark Knight Rises Unsafe (?) Hype Thread |5 Spoiled, 2 Of Them Mods!|

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Would be soooooooooooooo good

Freeze and his wife could've been one of the few scientists/engineers working under Lucius Fox at Wayne R&D. After the weapons get stolen from Wayne, you could've had Bane fucking shit up, eventually cryogenically freezing his wife using the prototype "Ice gun". BAM, Origin.

*creates fanfiction*

He could've easily be one of those late villians similar to Two-Face (and would add more seriousness to the winter/cold atmosphere of the current Gotham). The EMP gun could've been used to shut down the Ice gun. Meanwhile Freeze would go nuts and in desperation fucks more shit up.

Too much? Yeah, too much.
 
I would be disappointed. It's far too simple and easy for the story Nolan's been telling.

Exactly. Plus Alfred's "I won't bury you. I've buried enough membuhs of da Wayne family."

Plus, Bruce has yet to die canonically in the comics. Even Batman RIP skirted around it and he was basically alive the whole time.

I remember how I almost got scolded when I mentioned how that would totally be a cop out for Nolan. Because that's what the story has been hammering into us for the last two films.
It's what people expect, and it would be somewhat disappointing.
Weird. I'm surprised you guys feel that way.

I disagree that it is "easy" or "obvious" or "expected". As Andrex said, it hasn't happened in the comics. Batman dying would be shocking because it hasn't really been done before on a visible scale.

The past two movies haven't made it obvious that he'll, die, but if he does a lot of the dialogue will have more meaning. Especially Ra's talking to Bruce in his cell at the start of Begins. It would be a beautiful way to thematically tie everything together. What ending would you guys prefer?

Bruce continuing to be Batman?
Bruce retiring because he's too old to keep up, or because he sustained a severe injury, or because he's made peace with his inner turmoil?

Uh...

I can only think of the two options listed above plus the option of him dying as possible scenarios for the ending. If he is still Batman by the end of the film, I'm not sure how it will feel "conclusive", something Nolan has been harping on for years now. I'm pretty sure we can rule that out.

Bruce just giving up or quitting is something I personally don't want to see. I don't want a story of inner redemption, where Bruce finally heals from his parents death and attempts a normal life. There will always be work for Batman to do, and Batman as the "symbol" can't just quit for personal reasons. That would strip away everything I love about the character. The amount of psychological sacrifice he has to make combined with the psychological pain that drives him is one of the main reasons he's such an emotionally resonating character.

Batman sacrificing himself though, maybe even still with the public perception of him being a murderous outlaw, would be perfect. Giving his life to the masses that hate him. Committing the ultimate act of protection knowing full well that people either won't know about it, or will twist it to make him the villain.

Hell, it could be that Bane will straight up murder Batman. He will finally be outclassed, and permanently defeated. But he will still live on and win the day through the actions of Catwoman and JGL who were inspired by the symbol of what Batman stood for.

Years from now, it isn't going to matter if rabid obsessive fans who have been speculating for years correctly guessed the ending beforehand. The impact may not be as intense for them because it isn't a surprise, but that is no fault of the story telling. Bruce's death would unify the entire trilogy and would ensure that these movies go down as one of the most unique movie experiences ever.
 
Freeze and his wife could've been one of the few scientists/engineers working under Lucius Fox at Wayne R&D. After the weapons get stolen from Wayne, you could've had Bane fucking shit up, eventually cryogenically freezing his wife using the prototype "Ice gun". BAM, Origin.

*creates fanfiction*

He could've easily be one of those late villians similar to Two-Face (and would add more seriousness to the winter/cold atmosphere of the current Gotham). The EMP gun could've been used to shut down the Ice gun. Meanwhile Freeze would go nuts and in desperation fucks more shit up.

Too much? Yeah, too much.
NOT FAR ENOUGH I SAY! Toss in Poison Ivy somewhere.

That scenes makes me want to see Walt as The Joker, dat laugh gives me goosebumps
 
My prediction?

He does turn himself over to the cops for breaking like over 100 different laws. Last scene is of him sitting in a jail cell next to the Joker.
 
My prediction?

He does turn himself over to the cops for breaking like over 100 different laws. Last scene is of him sitting in a jail cell next to the Joker.
I've never thought of this, but this could be equally as awesome as him dying. Except he won't be sitting next to the Joker :(
 
I could see Nolan just leaving Batman's fate super vague. Like Bane does break him and he dissapears, but his legacy lives on never revealing whether Batman lived or died from bane. Of course I just want to see JGL vs Bane in the end.
 
Clayface immediately came to mind (DAT MOTHERFUCKING MUSIC), but then I realized I didn't want the supernatural villains in Nolan's universe. A nolan version of fries could be incredible, I just don't know how he'd pull it off without crossing over.

I got pretty much what I wanted already: Ras, Scarecrow, Joker,
 
What the hell would be the point of that

The city sees that a member of high society was willing to put his life on the line to save/help them and they get inspired to protect Gotham themselves.

Which leads back to what Alfred told Bruce about Thomas Wayne when they are on the plane in Batman Begins.
 
Weird. I'm surprised you guys feel that way.

I disagree that it is "easy" or "obvious" or "expected". As Andrex said, it hasn't happened in the comics. Batman dying would be shocking because it hasn't really been done before on a visible scale.

The past two movies haven't made it obvious that he'll, die, but if he does a lot of the dialogue will have more meaning. Especially Ra's talking to Bruce in his cell at the start of Begins. It would be a beautiful way to thematically tie everything together. What ending would you guys prefer?

Bruce continuing to be Batman?
Bruce retiring because he's too old to keep up, or because he sustained a severe injury, or because he's made peace with his inner turmoil?

Uh...

I can only think of the two options listed above plus the option of him dying as possible scenarios for the ending. If he is still Batman by the end of the film, I'm not sure how it will feel "conclusive", something Nolan has been harping on for years now. I'm pretty sure we can rule that out.

Bruce just giving up or quitting is something I personally don't want to see. I don't want a story of inner redemption, where Bruce finally heals from his parents death and attempts a normal life. There will always be work for Batman to do, and Batman as the "symbol" can't just quit for personal reasons. That would strip away everything I love about the character. The amount of psychological sacrifice he has to make combined with the psychological pain that drives him is one of the main reasons he's such an emotionally resonating character.

Batman sacrificing himself though, maybe even still with the public perception of him being a murderous outlaw, would be perfect. Giving his life to the masses that hate him. Committing the ultimate act of protection knowing full well that people either won't know about it, or will twist it to make him the villain.

Hell, it could be that Bane will straight up murder Batman. He will finally be outclassed, and permanently defeated. But he will still live on and win the day through the actions of Catwoman and JGL who were inspired by the symbol of what Batman stood for.

Years from now, it isn't going to matter if rabid obsessive fans who have been speculating for years correctly guessed the ending beforehand. The impact may not be as intense for them because it isn't a surprise, but that is no fault of the story telling. Bruce's death would unify the entire trilogy and would ensure that these movies go down as one of the most unique movie experiences ever.

I disagree still. The biblical story of Christ is a compelling one, but it's also a somewhat cliche and simple one to adapt to the story of a hero like Batman. I understand and agree with your points about the thematic implications and strengths of him dying, but I still think it is too obvious and too easy an ending. I expect something more complicated and something more original from Nolan.

I personally think he will voluntarily retire after defeating Bane. As we saw in TDK, Bruce longs for a legitimate hero like Harvey Dent to lead Gotham in a way that he as Batman can't. We also see the groundwork laid for this theme in BB when Rachel talks about "a day when Gotham no longer needs Batman." This isn't to say that crime will be gone from Gotham completely, but simply that Batman as a man won't be necessary anymore because his legend has inspired others to work for progress in the city. Obviously I have no idea what will happen to lead up to this but I trust that Nolan has something more resonating and more complicated than what you seem to think this option is.

If he dies it won't be bad, and I'm sure Nolan will make it compelling, but it will feel a bit underwhelming to me.
 
I remember how I almost got scolded when I mentioned how that would totally be a cop out for Nolan. Because that's what the story has been hammering into us for the last two films.
It's what people expect, and it would be somewhat disappointing.

Would you rather he do a kojima, and have Ra's come back from the lazarus pit and CQC hug batman, at Thomas Wayne's grave?
 
Ha no point just throwing random bs speculation out there.

I think I would kinda hate it if they revealed his identity to everyone.
He'd have to have a good reason to turn himself in of course. He came very very close to doing it in TDK, so if Bane ups the stakes I could see it as a possibility. But yeah, if Batman's identity becomes public knowledge I'm not sure how I'd feel about it
 
He'd have to have a good reason to turn himself in of course. He came very very close to doing it in TDK, so if Bane ups the stakes I could see it as a possibility. But yeah, if Batman's identity becomes public knowledge I'm not sure how I'd feel about it

He'd have to find someone that can protect Gotham other than him, whether it's still behind a mask or publicly (Harvey Dent) otherwise there is no point of Batman revealing himself - it would defeat the purpose of Batman. The only thing that we can see that would be close to this theory is Bruce Wayne hanging out with JGL in all those pics. He could be "mentoring" JGL to be a public face (like Harvey Dent) which Gotham needs. Which then, Batman could finally turn himself in, unless of course Bane fucks him up before
 
He'd have to find someone that can protect Gotham other than him, whether it's still behind a mask or publicly (Harvey Dent) otherwise there is no point of Batman revealing himself - it would defeat the purpose of Batman. The only thing that we can see that would be close to this theory is Bruce Wayne hanging out with JGL in all those pics. He could be "mentoring" JGL to be a public face (like Harvey Dent) which Gotham needs. Which then, Batman could finally turn himself in, unless of course Bane fucks him up before
JGL is supposed to be a relatively young cop, right? There's no way he will have enough experience and know-how to be the type of figure Dent could be. Unless they meet before the 8 year gap and he undergoes some serious training during that time period.

Also Batman doesn't WANT to turn himself in, nor should he. He only almost did it in TDK to save innocent lives, but I don't want him to do it after he's done being Batman. He values true justice over broken laws, it wouldn't fit all that well with the character if he did it because he feels bad about committing illegal acts.
 
Evan Rachel Wood was Christopher Nolan's first choice to play Ariadne, but she turned it down. Nolan considered casting Emily Blunt, Rachel McAdams and Emma Roberts, but chose Ellen Page instead.

The Hollywood Reporter reported that Brad Pitt and Will Smith were separately offered to play the role of Cobb, but both actors passed on the role.
 
Has anyone with talent turned down Nolan?

Yup.

Evan Rachel Wood was Christopher Nolan's first choice to play Ariadne, but she turned it down. Nolan considered casting Emily Blunt, Rachel McAdams and Emma Roberts, but chose Ellen Page instead.

The Hollywood Reporter reported that Brad Pitt and Will Smith were separately offered to play the role of Cobb, but both actors passed on the role.
 
I don't believe Brad Pitt turned down Inception. He's made too many good films, he's not a moron. Will Smith on the other hand, I believe. The guy turned down Matrix and Django Unchained after all.
 
I don't believe Brad Pitt turned down Inception. He's made too many good films, he's not a moron. Will Smith on the other hand, I believe. The guy turned down Matrix and Django Unchained after all.

He kinda tripped out on the past decade of movies, didn't he? Fuck being a parent, I mean god damn.
 
Will Smith in Inception would have been awesome! We could have had Jaden and Willow cameos as Cobb's kids.

Will Smith can be a great actor. Not sure why you're hating on the fact that he gets his kids roles. I sure as hell would do the same thing.
 
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