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Scullibundo said:
What a fat pig.
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Scullibundo said:
No more stupid than when Joker arrives at Wayne's party and randomly leaves after Batman and Rachel fall twenty stories and cave in the roof of a cab before laughing about it. ;)
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To be fair, there was a scene shot of him and his goons leaving the party and fleeing the scene in a getaway van. But it was removed. You can find some pics of it online.
 
DMczaf said:
Randomly leaves? Was he suppose to schedule his exit?
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Sorry. I mean we randomly leave the scene. With Joker in Bruce's penthouse and all those people. We end the scene with Batman and Rachel laughing how they shouldn't do that thing that should have killed them again.
 
DMczaf said:
If you stop before Ra's is brought to the party by crazy white lady, sure.

TDK wins.
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Both movies kind of 'suck' at the ending (by their own standards).

I think Begins works better as a whole... if it had a better villain, it could have been the best super-hero movie of all time.
 
Ra's is THE villain. He's one of Batman's greatest foes. And he did great in Begins.

The thing that ruins it for me is that Batman can take several elite ninjas and Ra's but has a difficult time against Joker and his men.
 
Fry8 said:
Both movies kind of 'suck' at the ending (by their own standards).

I think Begins works better as a whole... if it had a better villain, it could have been the best super-hero movie of all time.
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It is the best superhero movie of all time.


KOG said:
Ra's is THE villain. He's one of Batman's greatest foes. And he did great in Begins.

The thing that ruins it for me is that Batman can take several elite ninjas and Ra's but has a difficult time against Joker and his men.
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It's because he forgot he was a ninja come TDK.
 
Scullibundo said:
Sorry. I mean we randomly leave the scene. With Joker in Bruce's penthouse and all those people. We end the scene with Batman and Rachel laughing how they shouldn't do that thing that should have killed them again.
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The cape was slowing them down their momentum, and she was trying to laugh off a near death experience. Whatever!

Fry8 said:
Both movies kind of 'suck' at the ending (by their own standards).
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The final 15 mins of TDK is brilliant.

Scullibundo said:
It's because he forgot he was a ninja come TDK.
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I always figured the dogs were there to alert Joker of Batman being there (also to bite the shit out of Batman), you can be a ninja but you still smell like Batman.
 
Had a chat with my sister today and we got on the topic of TDKR. Eventually we started talking about Bane and... well. She can't wait but she had one question for me. "If Bane's in the movie, where's Poison Ivy? Also, when're they going to put the Penguin in the movie?"

How should I respond?
 
I'll never forgive TDK for that rushed Two-Face transformation. They fucked up Two-Face almost as much as they totally nailed Harvey Dent.

then again, there's no moment in TDK that makes me roll my fucking eyes so hard they almost fall out of my damn sockets like "techinally I'm not killing you if I don't save you, cya later Ra's". No, mothafucker, you're BATMAN. YOU SAVE EVERYBODY. THAT'S WHY YOU'RE BATMAN
 
Scullibundo said:
It is the best superhero movie of all time.




It's because he forgot he was a ninja come TDK.
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well that seriously bugs me.

I'll always like BB more.

I hope TDKR is so good.

I'm not going to lie i'm going to go into TDKR with high expectations. BB expectations.
 
EliteArtist said:
Had a chat with my sister today and we got on the topic of TDKR. Eventually we started talking about Bane and... well. She can't wait but she had one question for me. "If Bane's in the movie, where's Poison Ivy? Also, when're they going to put the Penguin in the movie?"

How should I respond?
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Tell her Anne is secretly Poison Ivy and Alfred gets super fat and becomes the penguin. Most logical thing I can think of.
 
DMczaf said:
If you think they rushed Two-Face, I think you misinterpreted a lot of that movie.
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Dude goes from white knight of Gotham to hunting down an innocent family and putting a gun to a child's head. Cuz of what? His bitch burned up and his half his face look like Rocky Dennis? That's it? That fast? Yeah, ok.
 
ViewtifulJC said:
Dude goes from white knight of Gotham to hunting down an innocent family and putting a gun to a child's head. Cuz of what? His bitch burned up and his half his face look like Rocky Dennis? That's it? That fast? Yeah, ok.
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Did you miss his scene with that lunatic where he is threatening a suspect? Also, he heard his fiance die, and got his face burnt off right afterwards. I think we can safely say he suffered a psychotic break.

Edit: Unless you think he was perfectly sane after that ordeal.
 
ViewtifulJC said:
Dude goes from white knight of Gotham to hunting down an innocent family and putting a gun to a child's head. Cuz of what? His bitch burned up and his half his face look like Rocky Dennis? That's it? That fast? Yeah, ok.
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Did you miss that whole scene where he almost wasted that fake Joker cop from the parade for gunning Gordon? Basically told you the dude had a huge dark side.

Edit- Lol me and Clayton think alike, and post alike.
 
it kinda bothered me that he didn't shoot Joker.

If he had killed Joker and then the rest of the movie was about him, maybe that'd be better?

It'd be better than that stupid boat thing.
 
KOG said:
it kinda bothered me that he didn't shoot Joker.

If he had killed Joker and then the rest of the movie was about him, maybe that'd be better?

It'd be better than that stupid boat thing.
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The boat thing was dumb. But he flipped the coin to see if he would kill joker. Just like everyone else. He was already too far gone to do anything logically. The coin ruled him, he no longer had a choice in his decisions.


WonkersTHEWatilla said:
Question: which movie has Batman killing the most people?
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BB. Because he refuses to kill the murderer, he ends up killing dozens more and still kills the murderer.
 
ViewtifulJC said:
Dude goes from white knight of Gotham to hunting down an innocent family and putting a gun to a child's head. Cuz of what? His bitch burned up and his half his face look like Rocky Dennis? That's it? That fast? Yeah, ok.
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Because people who lose the love of their life and have half the body burned and can never return to living a normal life think clearly? He was pissed off at the Joker and the world, and everyone in it. Joker was able to convince an emotionally vulnerable man by giving him a reason for what happen, who just wanted to make sense of everything that just happened to him. It also showed just how weak he was, and proved Joker right from his interrogation that he was trying to prove with the ferries.

"You see, their morals, their code, it's a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you."

With the final standoff, I believed Bruce was trying to save the Harvey he knew but finally realized the Harvey he believed in was gone or probably never existed.
 
DMczaf said:
"You see, their morals, their code, it's a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you."
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I've seen that scene so many times, I read it automatically in Heath's voice.
 
ViewtifulJC said:
Dude goes from white knight of Gotham to hunting down an innocent family and putting a gun to a child's head. Cuz of what? His bitch burned up and his half his face look like Rocky Dennis? That's it? That fast? Yeah, ok.
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Did you forget the part where Two-Face thought Gordon was a dirty cop and was responsible for Rachel's death. Hence Two-Face went after Gordon and his family. Besides, Dent's hate for cops (especially the moles in GPD) had enough screen time already. Its pretty clear that you either didnt get it and or a TDK rewatch is required for you.
 
DMczaf said:
Because people who lose the love of their life and have half the body burned and can never return to living a normal life think clearly? He was pissed off at the Joker and the world, and everyone in it. Joker was able to convince an emotionally vulnerable man by giving him a reason for what happen, who just wanted to make sense of everything that just happened to him. It also showed just how weak he was, and proved Joker right from his interrogation that he was trying to prove with the ferries.

"You see, their morals, their code, it's a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you."

With the final standoff, I believed Bruce was trying to save the Harvey he knew but finally realized the Harvey he believed in was gone or probably never existed.
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Yeah, and to me that is the saddest part of the film.
 
Clayton Bigsby said:
Did you miss his scene with that lunatic where he is threatening a suspect? Also, he heard his fiance die, and got his face burnt off right afterwards. I think we can safely say he suffered a psychotic break.
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Andrex said:
Did you miss that whole scene where he almost wasted that fake Joker cop from the parade for gunning Gordon? Basically told you the dude had a huge dark side.
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THAT'S the scene that's suppose to establish his dark side!? Goddamn, that's weak as hell. I really wish they had shown more of his supposed "huge dark side" to make his turn into Crazy McEvilness more believable.

And where the hell was the conflict with the coin? The internal strife of his two personas? Ya know, the Two-Face shit? Instead, he's just a fun visual with a gimmick. He flips a coin that decides if he kills people or not. And if doesn't work the first time, he'll just do it again. Great.

DMczaf said:
Because people who lose the love of their life and have half the body burned and can never return to living a normal life think clearly? He was pissed off at the Joker and the world, and everyone in it. Joker was able to convince an emotionally vulnerable man by giving him a reason for what happen, who just wanted to make sense of everything that just happened to him. It also showed just how weak he was, and proved Joker right from his interrogation that he was trying to prove with the ferries.

"You see, their morals, their code, it's a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you."

With the final standoff, I believed Bruce was trying to save the Harvey he knew but finally realized the Harvey he believed in was gone or probably never existed.
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Oh please, don't give me that "Well, he wasn't in his right mind, he's crazy now" shit to explain contrived story decisions. From that logic, he could have ran around in clown make-up and joined Joker's gang for a laugh. He's CRAZY and EMOTIONALLY VULNERABLE. Dude is a damn District Attorney and doesn't even attempt to call Joker out on his bullshit, sitting there looking mad.

God, what a fuckin' huge missed opportunity that was. The biggest disappointment in the Nolan Batman series so far. Then Batman accidently kills him, you think somebody would have mentioned that, but Nolan plays fast and loose with killing bad guys so whatever, right?
 
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