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[nikolino840]

Found when i was looking for some 2d porn...for a friend

The article is long..here's the subject
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But anime’s outward success conceals a disturbing underlying economic reality: Many of the animators behind the onscreen magic are broke and face working conditions that can lead to burnout and even suicide.

The tension between a ruthless industry structure and anime’s artistic idealism forces animators to suffer exploitation for the sake of art, with no solution in sight.

Anime’s slave labor problem

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The dark side of Japan’s anime industry

Anime brings in more than $19 billion a year. Its artists are earning barely enough to survive.

www.vox.com

 

[Nester99]

Wait, there is a non dark side to anime?

 

[CrapSandwich]

They pulled their salary data from Kotaku which sourced it from a 4chan thread.

 

[bender]

Found when i was looking for some 2d porn...for a friend

 

[down 2 orth]

I mean... that just sounds like working in Japan as a whole.

 

[Cunth]

did you cum?

 

[ManofOne]

did you cum?

It was prob pixelated .

 

[Lupingosei]

What kind of hentai do you have to search for if you get the dark side of anime as a result?

Latex? Ebony? Blind fetish? Blindfold?

 

[DESTROYA]

This is nothing new and well known for a long time, there is a dark side to every seedy industry.

 

[nikolino840]

What kind of hentai do you have to search for if you get the dark side of anime as a result?

Latex? Ebony? Blind fetish? Blindfold?

On twitter accounts

 

[nikolino840]

did you cum?

Nah

 

[Lupingosei]

On twitter accounts

 

[Sakura]

Don't they just outsource a lot of the animation to korea and shit now?
They don't get paid a lot, because anime doesn't make a lot of money. Nobody becomes an animator thinking they're going to be making good money.

 

[King of Foxes]

They are all pedos. So are the people who jack off to that shit.

 

[Mistake]

They are all pedos. So are the people who jack off to that shit.

I don’t jack off to it. My auto erotic asphyxiator does it for me

 

[Lupingosei]

They are all pedos. So are the people who jack off to that shit.

He's back?

 

[BluRayHiDef]

This has been known for quite some time, particularly because of the delayed and truncated release of the second season of Attack on Titan. It took four years for the second season to be released and it was only half as many episodes as the first season, because the animators were overburdened with producing animation for other shows and because the studio behind them didn't have enough money to compensate them for producing as many episodes as the first season. Animation is in much higher demand in Japan than it is in the United States, so there's an oversaturation of anime production studios and subsequently a minimization of the amount of profit that each studio can earn.

 

[nikolino840]

They are all pedos. So are the people who jack off to that shit.

Well i saw a video of a woman drawing hentai and masturbate...not a porn video,she was actually an hentai artist in japan

 

[Fbh]

Anime sounds the same as videogames.
An industry with an almost limitless source of easily exploitable young and enthusiastic people willing to take shitty working conditions and wages if it allows them to have their "dream" job.

 

[Lupingosei]

Well i saw a video of a woman drawing hentai and masturbate...not a porn video,she was actually an hentai artist in japan

That is actually not that unusual, some of the craziest shit is drawn by women. If you ever visit Comiket you will know.

 

[BluRayHiDef]

The following video sheds some light on what it's like being an animator in Japan.

 

[Happosai]

It's that way with most animation industries. Artists who have talent and want money should consider publishing for manga editors. Manga has a bigger fan base in Japan than anime and the they'd make more doing less. I dropped out of art school in the note of animation because they told me how low the salary was. It's kinda a dead industry, so I'm not sure why Japan studios even bother with anime anymore unless it's to market it outside Japan.

 

[Goro Majima]

I don't know if this was ever accurate but I think I would find a different job if this was my life.

 

[AlteredForms]

Doesn't surprise me as this happens all the time within Japanese workplaces. The workers are expected to tolerate the cramped schedules for the benefits of company and country.

 

[Dwight Schrute]

Top 10 anime bettayal

 

[Tesseract]

there's always a dark side, all you can do is avoid those traps and work hard

what you think the games industry isn't a web of miserable secrets?

 

[Werewolf Jones]

I don't know if this was ever accurate but I think I would find a different job if this was my life.

It's accurate for weekly. I'd imagine people who work for monthly serialisation have more time for themselves.

 

[Dacon]

They pulled their salary data from Kotaku which sourced it from a 4chan thread.

Lotta people ignore this.

 

[EviLore]

Pay has always looked abysmal for artists in the anime industry considering the hours worked, effort, and skill involved.

It's not great for salary outcomes when you have diehard idealists looking to break into their dream career vs the pragmatism of big corporate.

Go independent and direct to audience and you can do far better if you find your 1000 true fans.

 

[PonyStation4]

Pay has always looked abysmal for artists in the anime industry considering the hours worked, effort, and skill involved.

It's not great for salary outcomes when you have diehard idealists looking to break into their dream career vs the pragmatism of big corporate.

Go independent and direct to audience and you can do far better if you find your 1000 true fans.

The money right now is in Webtoons, which are weekly color comics in a vertical format. Starting pay from $2,000, while the popular creators are making over $80,000 monthly.

 

[MayauMiao]

It's kinda a dead industry, so I'm not sure why Japan studios even bother with anime anymore unless it's to market it outside Japan.

No wonder there has been a surge of anime legally release from Youtube channels like Anione, Anilog, and Muse Asia.

 

[O-N-E]

Based Miyazaki.

He goes on to rip Tezuka to shreds. And this only shortly after Tezuka's death, lol.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Pay has always looked abysmal for artists in the anime industry considering the hours worked, effort, and skill involved.

It's not great for salary outcomes when you have diehard idealists looking to break into their dream career vs the pragmatism of big corporate.

Go independent and direct to audience and you can do far better if you find your 1000 true fans.

Not really any different from the gaming industry. When you have an industry where people REALLY WANT to do it you're going to have severe supply and demand issues versus an industry where people do it because they have to make a living.

That said, Kyoto Animation was very well known for paying it's people good wages. There are good studios out there, or were anyways.

 

[badblue]

What kind of hentai do you have to search for if you get the dark side of anime as a result?

Latex? Ebony? Blind fetish? Blindfold?

Vore.

 

[Lupingosei]

Vore.

I knew somebody was going to bring that up.

 

[Papa]

They are all pedos. So are the people who jack off to that shit.

@SLoWMoTIoN get ITT!

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Don't they just outsource a lot of the animation to korea and shit now?
They don't get paid a lot, because anime doesn't make a lot of money. Nobody becomes an animator thinking they're going to be making good money.

This. They do this because they love it.

@SLoWMoTIoN get ITT!

Why did you quote me after quoting Dr.Pizza? Why anime avatar guy?

 

[West Texas CEO]

I'm burning my Evangelion plushies after hearing this

 

[UnNamed]

Anime industry is laid on low wages and chinese/korean labours, otherwise it would be unsustainable.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

Many of the animators behind the onscreen magic are broke and face working conditions that can lead to burnout and even suicide.

So in other words, working in Japan.

 

[Rean no Kiseki]

Watch this, it'll tell you all you need to know about the industry.

Edit damn you BluRayHiDef ! And your kage bunshin shit! I'm kidding of course.

 

[PSlayer]

Yeah i'm usually one of the first to complain about animation quality being bad(e.g. Berserk,Dragon Ball super,Some naruto seasons,etc...) but i never put the blame on the animators. Those poor souls have the skill but are usually overloaded with work and with a short deadline.

The OnGoing Series bussiness model must die. The Jojo model seems to be the best: Release one high quality season every couple of years and that's it.

Nobody likes fillers,nobody likes bad animations and nobody likes sweatshops

 

[rorepmE]

It's kinda a dead industry, so I'm not sure why Japan studios even bother with anime anymore unless it's to market it outside Japan.

Man people talk shit about how money runs America but at least when someone creates a big hit people get paid and money pours in for sequels and merchandise.

You would think they would be raking in the dough with that type of world wide popularity. I would say after America they're number 2 in pop culture export. Some countries would be envious of being able to export popular culture like that.

But not Glorious Nippon!

Have to wait half a fucking decade for One Punch Man Season 3.

Doesn't surprise me as this happens all the time within Japanese workplaces. The workers are expected to tolerate the cramped schedules for the benefits of company and country.

So in other words, working in Japan.

She's their office manager, accountant, lunch lady, and janitor.

And she lives with her parents.